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PostSubject: Tiny horse custom   Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:09 pm

Here´s my most recent custom. A friend of mine commissioned me to do this, an undefined cross breed mare. Her measures are 7 cm long, including tail, x 4,5 cm high.

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EDIT: I forgot to say, the mold I used is a buckskin dun horse from Safari Ltd Toobs 683804.

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:17 am

That is a really nice pony, I love the white sock! Thanks for posting the photos.
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:23 am

Wow, Sylvia she's gorgeous, amazing work for something so small!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:45 am

You did a great job on such a tiny horse. Very nice indead.
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:01 am

Thank you! The thing is, I was told to do a really dark bay, nearly black, so you can only see the bay coat when looking carefully at her. She liked the mare a lot... but now told me to lighten a bit the coat, in order to see a bit easier that it´s a bay xD Soo I will update the pic soon. Well, in fact it was me who suggested to do a little lighter coat after seeing how dark was that figurine.

What do you think? Do you think she will look better in a reddish coat? A very dark bay, but a bay you can see without looking socarefully.

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:12 am

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Thank you! The thing is, I was told to do a really dark bay, nearly black, so you can only see the bay coat when looking carefully at her. She liked the mare a lot... but now told me to lighten a bit the coat, in order to see a bit easier that it´s a bay xD Soo I will update the pic soon. Well, in fact it was me who suggested to do a little lighter coat after seeing how dark was that figurine.

What do you think? Do you think she will look better in a reddish coat? A very dark bay, but a bay you can see without looking socarefully.
Yes, maybe it would look better if she had a more reddish coat

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:23 am

Such lovely little horse I love you
What a steady hand you have Very Happy

I also think it may look ...mmmm, in English ... is interesting the word ? with a little reddish sheen. But it is hard to tell from a photo Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:06 pm

OK; so finally I changed her coat into a sooty bay. Now is a bit more reddish :)

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:09 pm

Looks very natural, i like it more than the black version.
I can only imagine how hard it is to paint such small model Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:11 pm

Beauuuuutyfull, Sylvia !!!!!!

What a great colour. Lovely pony I love you
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:12 pm

It looks perfect, beautiful repaint Sylvia cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:06 pm

Thanks my friends!

Eyes were the most difficult thing to paint... They have sclera, iris and pupil :)

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:54 pm

Variations in the same piece! I don't understand nothing of it, I don't know which is the correct colour, but I agree with the lighter version, unless is more beautiful! sunny
Oh, I'm starting commenting horses!!!!
I don't want to comment horses! I don't want to comment horses... I don't want to coment horses!!! Suspect ... scratch It remembers me something!!! scratch scratch Idea cat cat
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:34 am

He he Roger! The only color is the bay one :) She started as a nearly black bay, but the commissioner changed her oppinion and asked me to change the color, so I did that :) So the black one is now a bay one ^^

Anyway... why don´t you want to comment horses? Don´t you like them? Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:13 am

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He he Roger! The only color is the bay one :) She started as a nearly black bay, but the commissioner changed her oppinion and asked me to change the color, so I did that :) So the black one is now a bay one ^^

Anyway... why don´t you want to comment horses? Don´t you like them? Razz

I've read everything Sylvia, you have repainted your figure in a lighter version! So it is a variation anyway even the older desapeared! :)
Nothing important, anyway thanks! I feel I have a lot to learn with you about these wonderful creatures! But is very hard to know the colors! When I was a boy myteacher learned me to say brown, red, grey, white, etc. ... I can't remember chestnut, bay, dun, palomino etc. confused
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:44 am

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I don't want to comment horses! I don't want to comment horses... I don't want to coment horses!!! Suspect ... scratch It remembers me something!!! scratch scratch Idea cat cat

It reminds me of something too scratch question Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing

But Roger, you know a lot more about horses that you let us know Very Happy Wink

Anyway horse colour names in English can be very confusing, f.inst. why do they call a red horse chestnut when chestnuts are bay What a Face Suspect

Also Americans and British don`t always use the same name for a colour, - often American names are more precise, I think. But black, bay and chestnut are the basic colours, and they are the same in both. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:06 am

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Anyway horse colour names in English can be very confusing, f.inst. why do they call a red horse chestnut when chestnuts are bay What a Face Suspect

Eh scratch A bay is a red horse and an orange horse is a chestnut study

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:46 am

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Anyway horse colour names in English can be very confusing, f.inst. why do they call a red horse chestnut when chestnuts are bay What a Face Suspect

yes, right, - language-problems and also I am talking genotype, you are talking phaenotype Laughing

I love this photo because it sort of "forgets" about all the phaenotypic variants:

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Bay, black, chestnut, - am I right ?
Bay and chestnut can have same colour body, but mane, tail, lover part of the legs, muzzle and eartips are black in the bay one ....

Genotypic the bay is really black with one or two A-genes, while the black one is aa.

The chestnut one is ee, - non-black.

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:49 pm

American and British English are a bit different sometimes when talking about horse coats... but Spanish is soooo confusing depending of the different countries, and even inside the same country!

Anyway, I don´t think bay, chestnut and black are the same. They are very different! And red color in bays is not the same as red color in chestnut. Bays are EE or Ee. The E extension allele makes the horse produce eumelanin, wich is a black pigment, and ee (chestnut horses) produce pheomelanin, wich is red. So the basic pigment is different. A bay horse is then a black based horse. That makes a bay horse looking red is Agouti gene. when a black horse has Aa or AA, the eumelanin is diluted into a reddish color. So you can see the red color is different in chestnuts and bays :) We could talk about 2 original colors: black and red (chestnut), and bay is a color that comes from a diluted black.

I don´t know if you can understand me :S

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:24 pm

Yes, I thought that was what I wrote Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:30 pm

I'm completly sure that these color names were invented by women! :) Nobody discuss colors better!
See what happens with cosmetics, how many different reds, browns, pinks, etc. ...and all have fantastic names!
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:30 pm

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Yes, I thought that was what I wrote Laughing Laughing

Embarassed Then I didn´t understand well what did you mean.




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I'm completly sure that these color names were invented by women! :) Nobody discuss colors better!
See what happens with cosmetics, how many different reds, browns, pinks, etc. ...and all have fantastic names!
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Ha ha ha Roger you´re right cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:21 pm

The genetic backgroung of horses' colours may seem complicated but I enjoy it anyway Very Happy

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I'm completly sure that these color names were invented by women! :) Nobody discuss colors better!
See what happens with cosmetics, how many different reds, browns, pinks, etc. ...and all have fantastic names!
confused confused confused
Laughing I wouldn't be surprised if that was true Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:14 am

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Yes, I thought that was what I wrote Laughing Laughing

Embarassed Then I didn´t understand well what did you mean.


What I mean is, that we totally agree. Try to read what I wrote again Wink

I just tend to simpify a lot, - for several years I held seminars for breeders of Iceys about the heredity of horse colours.
These breeders think in terms of "mixing two pots of paint" and the HUGE challenge was to make them understand why f.inst two black horses could get a chestnut foal Wink
Often a seminar would take 6 - 8 hours so I used lots and lots of drawings, photoes, examples from their own horses etc, just so that people would not fall completely asleep.

But my experience is that for breeders, THE thing is to understand the heredity of the 3 base colours and forget about the shades, - then the rest is SO easy Wink

Only they think it is boring . People want to jump to the rare examle of a blue dun silverdappeled roan splashed white with hidden cream gene immediately. And if they don`t know that it is basicly a black horse, they are completely lost geek

I also spent a LOT of my spare time for almost 2 years helping a senior scientist at the Danish National Libraray of Science and Nature by proofreading her book about horse colours, so I am fully aware of what you are talking about Wink Very Happy


So, Sylvia, we agree completely Very Happy Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Tiny horse custom   Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:03 am

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So, Sylvia, we agree completely Very Happy Wink

Ok, I can see it now ^^

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