Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........

Kikimalou wrote:

Numaan wrote:

Anyway for interest I love the Franz Indian elephant - a fantastic set.  Take a look:

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for reference, a different Franz Bronz tiger:
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Yes I would love Schleich would copied this elephant   

The most funny    here is an old "Franz Xavier Bergman" cheetah   


And a Hippo  

And so it means Papo also copied Franz Xavier Bergman models.

I can't wait to see a Gaur by Franz Xavier Bergman, Maybe Anna copied it   

The cheetah is magnificent. Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman. As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."   

what a pity more Bergman models

So so strange. I have no idea what to make of it. The little woman inside the Crocodile is odd.

schleich61 wrote:

The cheetah is magnificent.  Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman.  As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."   

I'm not an expert, even not an aficionados of this kind of stuff but I use to have a look on Vienna Bronze animals for years now. I never saw these models before and I have a big doubt they are really old Vienna Bronze  

Also all these animals are on the English market, I can't find any of them in Germany or austria   

Nevertheless, look at THIS GIRAFFE  

Kikimalou wrote:

schleich61 wrote:

The cheetah is magnificent.  Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman.  As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."   

I'm not an expert, even not an aficionados of this kind of stuff but I use to have a look on Vienna Bronze animals for years now. I never saw these models before and I have a big doubt they are really old Vienna Bronze  

Also all these animals are on the English market, I can't find any of them in Germany or austria   

Nevertheless, look at THIS GIRAFFE  

I defer to your superior knowledge of this (and many other!) subjects...   Nice giraffe, by the way.

schleich61 wrote:

I defer to your superior knowledge of this (and many other!) subjects...    Nice giraffe, by the way.

I know my "Superior" knowledge will melt like snow in summer if you begin to have a look at Vienna Cold-painted bronze.   

Another good joke on eBay   

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And I guess the only answer is this   

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Kikimalou wrote:

Another good joke on eBay   

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And I guess the only answer is this   

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That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) #


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U!  

Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) #


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U!  

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things   

On e-bay results very suspicious : Schleich Lion with Papo lioness , great couple

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But what about this kind of "serious" places? ....


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Again, I'm not a specialist but I spent time in the past on Vienna cold painted bronze animals. Never saw these one until now and the style is different from the models I already knew  

Also, every sellers is telling us that they are very rare models... And they are everywhere now  

Everywhere ? Really ? I can't find any of them on Austria website or even French website...

1800$   

Kikimalou wrote:

Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) #


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U!  

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things   

I never say anything against schleich?  

Bonobo wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) #


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U!  

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things   

I never say anything against schleich?  

   Of course   

It seems Bonobos and macaques heve translation problems.   

The barefaced monkey is a respectable old Vienna cold painted bronze, I thought it was a funny answer to something I suspect to be a fake   

Kikimalou wrote:

Bonobo wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) #


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U!  

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things   

I never say anything against schleich?  

   Of course   

It seems Bonobos and macaques heve translation problems.   

The barefaced monkey is a respectable old Vienna cold painted bronze, I thought it was a funny answer to something I suspect to be a fake   

I mean the bearded dragon  Actually the seller.

That is quite disturbing! I also don't know why I haven't seen it before!
I always think that people sees copies everywhere but no doubts these bronze figures are made from known pvc figures and making some people a little richer.
The most confuse thing for me is that they are selling for high prices. It is hard to believe they are originals that modern brand copied before, why do bronze figures needed to have thick legs and be chubby... vintage safety?

I looked at Numaan's links, weird. The different tiger looks nothing like Schleich! And the elephant. Something fishy is going on around there...

I just found other old favourites  
Hund bronze sculptur
Bronze Hund skulptur dekorativ
this one looks like the English Bulldog from Bully
Antique Bulldog
And they are not only copying Schleich - here's a Breyer-Bronze supposed to be from 1900-1930. That's funny because the Breyer model they obviously used was released in 1973  
antike Pferd reiten

        

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible  

Kikimalou wrote:

        

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible  

Gaur is not CollectA  
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way. Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation

Ana wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

        

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible  

Gaur is not CollectA  
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  

You hit the nail on the head.   

Ana wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

        

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible  

Gaur is not CollectA  
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  

Incredible crazy macaques...    Of course Anna, Gaur is NOT CollectA, I apologize      

And yes, I also hate this kind of people!

Kikimalou wrote:

Ana wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

        

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible  

Gaur is not CollectA  
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  

Incredible crazy macaques...    Of course Anna, Gaur is NOT CollectA, I apologize      

No worries Kiki