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PostSubject: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:03 pm

We are used to some, suprised by the others.
Some happen in the nature, some in captivity, some are artifical.
There are many moral issues here.
Which unusual hybrids do you know of?
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Here is a little list of mine (non of the images are mine though):

A mule is a cross between a female horse and a male donkey.
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they can also have very versatile coloring:
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A hinny is a cross between a male horse and female donkey.
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gaited hinny:
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A zorse (zebroid) is a cross between a horse and a zebra.
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A zonkey (Zeedonk), is a hybrid of a donkey and zebra.
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A cama is the combination of a camel and a female llama.
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A Sheep-goat (geep) is a combination of a sheep and a goat.
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A beefalo is the cross between domestic cattle and an American bison.
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A grolar (pizzly) bear is a cross between a polar bear and a grizzly bear.
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Big Cats:

A liger is a cross between a male lion and a female tiger.
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A tigon is a cross between a male tiger and a female lion.
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A leopon is a cross between a leopard and a female lion.
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A lipard is a cross between a female leopard and a lion.
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A jagulep is a cross between a leopardess and a jaguar.
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Also, hybrids of hybrids like e.g.

A Ti-Liger is a cross between Female Liger and male tiger.
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A Savannah cat is the cross between a serval and a domestic cat.
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and others:
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A wholphin is a cross between a false killer whale and a bottlenose dolphin.
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A narluga is a cross between a narwhal and a beluga.
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:27 pm

I actually think that bottom photo is a hybrid of a habor porpoise and a Dall's porpoise: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

 exclamation There are necropsy photos, if it offends anyone, I do apologize  Embarassed



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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:36 pm

Yes you are right, I found it online under a narluga, here there are images of both hybrids:
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The second photo in the porpoise hybrid set is a Hector's dolphin, not a harbor porpoise. And the photo of the "narluga" is simply a baby captive beluga
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:43 pm

The narluga is really just a chubby beluga calf (see the comments at the bottom of the page). I know SeaWorld in the U.S. had a common dolphin x Atlantic bottlenose dolphin hybrid that I'm trying to find a picture of scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:44 pm

I think it's such a shame that people breed animals just for fun. To laugh at the outcomes and give them silly names. It's ridiculous Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:49 pm

Here's the dolphin at SeaWorld:

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She's the fourth one from the left, and she is a short-beaked common dolphin x Atlantic bottlenose dolphin hybrid.


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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:49 pm

But what when it happens on its own?
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 6:59 pm

It is very interesting but how many from this create the nature  scratch scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 7:04 pm

Shocked Shocked Shocked 

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 7:20 pm

silent silent silent 

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 7:24 pm

boba_jagoda wrote:
But what when it happens on its own?
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It's still ridiculous that people are giving them silly names. I mean really, a "grolar bear?" What's wrong with "cross between a polar bear and a grizzly?" tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 7:37 pm

Well I'm not the one to judge the "degree of sillyness" for the admittedly strange names, but if they get more common the name should be shorter and these are the obvious choises
Just like we have labradoodles and araappaloosas it seems we might also have grolar bears in the future. But, yes, they all sound silly, what can you do.

From all of these hybrids above, it seems that the only really artificial cross is the "cama".
But I wasn't very thorough when reading through.
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyTue Jul 08, 2014 9:05 pm

I do agree that it is a little ridiculous that people actually breed them for fun, but in some instances (like the three cetaceans) we really don't have much control of that.
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyWed Jul 09, 2014 10:32 am

Interesting hybrids! I must say, that Ti-Liger and Lipard are gorgeous! It's amazing that these species would seek one another out and produce offspring (that is, if it is natural). Is it true that most of these hybrids would be sterile? As far as I know, there have been a few reported cases of mules who successfully carried offspring and ligers as well. Thank you for sharing! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyWed Jul 09, 2014 5:26 pm

Thanks for sharing. It is very interesting to see how even just the gender of one parent can change how the offspring look (i.e. Ligers and Tigons). I've never heard of half of these, so this is fun to see them all.

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyThu Jul 10, 2014 10:19 pm

At my grandpas, we sometimes will cross Hereford cattle with black Angus cattle to produce a hybrid called the black baldy, Gelby, or black Hereford. They grow very quickly (from hybrid vigor) and have excellent beef quality.

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyThu Jul 10, 2014 11:01 pm

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At my grandpas, we sometimes will cross Hereford cattle with black Angus cattle to produce a hybrid called the black baldy, Gelby, or black Hereford. They grow very quickly (from hybrid vigor) and have excellent beef quality.
My grandparent's family farm does the same. Every year they breed an angus or Hereford bull to the cows to keep re crossing. Creates some interesting cattle.

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyFri Jul 11, 2014 10:54 am

I find hybrids that are breed in zoos like tigons or zorses to just stand there and impress visitors are really strange ideas. And giving them those funny names seems like, as LeeAnn said, actually a sign of disrespect for animals.

If it happens in nature, then I don't see a problem. In birds' world it happens for example to Capercaillie and  Black Grouse  (T. urogallus x tetrix), here is a link where you can watch some photos of such hybrids and hear the voice : [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


About cattle, why cross of two breeds would be called hybrid, they are the same species actually, aren't they?  scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptyFri Jul 11, 2014 6:48 pm

odd. The lipard is just weird looking.
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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptySat Jul 12, 2014 1:19 pm

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About cattle, why cross of two breeds would be called hybrid, they are the same species actually, aren't they?  scratch
The same with hybrid dogs, or "designer breeds" as they are sometimes called - practically, they are just mixbreeds with fancy names, as you still need to cross two breeds to get such dog (e.g. Labradoodle, a mix of Poodle and Labrador). Maybe on the future they will become new breeds.

Hybrids in nature - OK, they sometimes happen.
Hybrids created by man - not so much. Mules make most sense, as they are great working animals, combining good features of both parents. I love the look of zebroids, but I don't see the point of breeding them.

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptySat Jul 12, 2014 10:14 pm

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About cattle, why cross of two breeds would be called hybrid, they are the same species actually, aren't they?  scratch

It is true that cattle are all the same species, but they are split into different breeds, the same as with horses. Certain breeds are bred to put certain emphasis on desired qualities. These are called hybrids because they combine two or more desirable traits together in an animal. Each breed is unique. Using certain breeds, such as black angus as dairy cows would be like using a thoroughbred race horse to pull a plow. In crossing angus and Hereford to get black baldy cattle, we are combining the angus' great carcass quality, with the Hereford fast growth. This makes a faster growing, better quality meat animal in the end. We have also crossed Holstein dairy cattle with Ayrshire cattle before, because of the Holsteins huge milk yield, and the Ayrshires ability to produce rich, creamy milk on pasture, rather than more expensive grain.

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PostSubject: Re: Animal Hybrids   Animal Hybrids EmptySun Jul 27, 2014 10:07 am

I got two camels yesterday on a fleamarket - a Bactrian male and dromedary female and I, of course, had to wonder:

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The dromedary and the Bactrian camel can hybridize, and the hybrid F1 is fertile. The F1 hybrid has a high fore hump and a tiny, undeveloped rear hump. The mix mating is dangerous. The male of the Bactrian camel has short feet, and loses balance on the dromedary female, falling. The dromedary male can smash the second hump of the Bactrian female.

The F1 can be further hybridized. An F1 female can mate with a male Bactrian camel: the result is a F2 Bactrian. It generally has two humps and is faster than a common Bactrian and stronger than a dromedary. It can walk over snow, ice, and mud and is suitable even for mountain trails; this type can be found mostly in Kazakhstan. When an F1 female mates with a dromedary, the result is an F2 dromedary, a slightly stronger dromedary and a rare type nowadays.

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