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| Subject: Modeling New Zealand birds Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:50 pm | |
| Having witnessed some beautiful models from very talented members of this forum I have been inspired (once again!) to have a go at making my own. So... I have brought some air drying modeling clay to experiment with. I did forget to buy some wire, is this needed? Is the wire essential? Would it strengthen the models? Well, after some thought, I would like to have a go at modeling some New Zealand native birds such as the Tui or the Bellbird or the Fantail. Any tips before I get started? I think that I will study pictures and do some drawings before starting so that I get the porportions just right, I hope that they turn out all right. I will use a tooth pick to add details. I have both acrylic and oil paints so which would be best to use? This is going to be quite the challange but I can't wait to get started
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ulinuk
Country/State : Czech republic Age : 25 Joined : 2013-12-03 Posts : 1226
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:51 am | |
| I think you can do it! With some pictures of your model and little bit of skill it will be great model I don´t know with the colours, I use acrylic, but maybe the oil paints aren´t bad too |
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ulinuk
Country/State : Czech republic Age : 25 Joined : 2013-12-03 Posts : 1226
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:14 am | |
| Very nice bird this fantail! I want see your work I have to admit, I never drew pictures I worked only with pictures from google |
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| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:41 am | |
| Okay, hang on, I will post pictures soon when I have finished them at each angle |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:31 am | |
| Sounds good! I haven't made that much models like from the start to end so I can't help.. = D I wanna see your birds when they're ready to be shown _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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MiniZoo
Country/State : Australia Age : 28 Joined : 2011-01-31 Posts : 406
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:41 am | |
| The wire is a very good idea to use to give support and also to provide a 'skeleton' to build around. I would recommend starting with the simplest shapes... Eg a bird with folded wings is much easier than outstretched wings. Also you are doing the right thing by spending time studying your subject in detail before starting. I don't usually draw the subjects before sculpting. Sometimes just a very rough sketch to write measurements on is all, but other sculptors will do detailed drawings. Never tried oils but don't want to as acrylics work well for me. Also, don't be afraid to have a few failures! Air drying clay can be tricky as it dries within a few hours, so you can't leave a model overnight and come back to it. I only did two models with air dry clay before switching to a polymer clay as it was better in so many ways. Hope that helps - good luck :) |
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:18 am | |
| I'm excited to see this project! |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:16 pm | |
| Polymer clay Okay I will look out for it! Thankyou Minizoo Those are some very helpfull tips. I am modeling a fantail perched on a branch with its wings folded [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I also have pictures from my two bird books to copy from. I really hope that it works. The reason that I am sketching first is because A. I enjoy it and... B. I get the opportunity to study each and every detail so that I can get it right in the modeling |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:53 am | |
| E X C I T I N G! _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:38 pm | |
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ulinuk
Country/State : Czech republic Age : 25 Joined : 2013-12-03 Posts : 1226
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:45 pm | |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:08 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:41 pm | |
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ulinuk
Country/State : Czech republic Age : 25 Joined : 2013-12-03 Posts : 1226
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:55 pm | |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:55 pm | |
| _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:35 pm | |
| Sorry for such a long delay Here she is... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]This is my very first time modeling so she is not perfect, any tips would be appreciated. I did not use wire which made it allot harder, I will use wire next time |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:36 pm | |
| I am not quite finished the painting either, some bits still need to be filled in |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:05 am | |
| Aww so cute! Great job Emma! If this is your first homemade model you're such a talent _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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ulinuk
Country/State : Czech republic Age : 25 Joined : 2013-12-03 Posts : 1226
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:41 am | |
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:50 am | |
| It's beautiful, congrats! What type of clay did you use? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:46 pm | |
| I used air drying modeling clay called JOVI. Oddly enough I noticed that once it is dry, by wetting it with water, it can be used again. So I am not sure how to permanently dry it? |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:11 pm | |
| Emma, if you can already do it, you only have to keep sculpting and painting! It is beautiful and I really enjoy seeing a young artist starting on STS and making birds of local fauna. New Zealand have such wonderful birds!!! About clay I don't understand anything of it but maybe this link may help you. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:18 pm | |
| Thank you! That is helpful There is also this other brand called Fimo which I brought for my brothers birthday some years ago. He couldn't use it because it was way too hard and couldn't be molded at all because it just fell to pieces I now know that it needs to be conditioned. Does any one know whether this is better then Jovi? I have heard it reccomended somewhere. |
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Modeling New Zealand birds Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:26 pm | |
| Thanks Emma I haven't heard of Jovi but I love Fimo. Yes, you need to condition Fimo and I've found microwaving it helps too, especially if it's old clay. When polymer clay gets old it gets hard and crumbly, and hurts your fingers. You might be better off with Sculpey thought, it's quite a bit less expensive. |
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