Safari Ltd 2016 releases with pictures

john2xtheman wrote:

QuollMate wrote:

john2xtheman wrote:

So far it looks like it's going to be
Shunosaurus lii
Iguanodon bernissartensis
Masiakasaurus knopfleri
Dakosaurus maximus
and an updated sculpt of
Carcharodontosaurus saharicus

And there is still one more to be revealed...

It doesn't really look like a dakosaurus to me. It looks too— crocodile like. Dakosaurus has a T-Rex kind of head. That's interesting.

You are thinking of Dakosaurus andiniensis,which is understandable with it being in the prehistoric crocodiles toob.But this is Dakosaurus maximus,which has a skull and body that matches perfectly with the model seen.

AFAIK none of the animals' names have been given yet, and there are lots of potential metrirhynchids.

I'm more confused about the Shunosaurus? I don't see a sauropod, and certainly not one with a club tail.

The one to the left of the Iguanodon looks very much like a sauropod to me. Could be Shunosaurus, as we can't see the tail. But could equally well be Brachytrachelopan. It does look a little like a very long-necked ornithopod, but I think it's a short-necked sauropod.

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I think that long necked model is a Sauropod. Most likely a Shunosaurus

WOW the Rare Megatherium returns!! thank Safari !!!

The head looks too horse-ish for Brachytrachelopan or Shunosaurus:

Shunosaurus skull
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Plus, I don't see a distinctive tail club (but that could just be the photo if it's there).

My first thought is a really muscular, large-bodied crestless hadrosaur, like Shangtungosaurus.

You could be right. The reason I think it's a sauropod is that the metatarsals look short, i.e., it looks like it has sauropod hind feet. I can see a Shantungosaurus from a certain angle, although what would be eye in that case looks like a ear or laryngeal spot in the sauropod interpretation. If Safari is following the recent trend in reconstructions of placing nares distally, then a Shunosaurus head would look more horselike as they fill in the soft tissue to get them that far anterior.

halichoeres wrote:

You could be right. The reason I think it's a sauropod is that the metatarsals look short, i.e., it looks like it has sauropod hind feet. I can see a Shantungosaurus from a certain angle, although what would be eye in that case looks like a ear or laryngeal spot in the sauropod interpretation. If Safari is following the recent trend in reconstructions of placing nares distally, then a Shunosaurus head would look more horselike as they fill in the soft tissue to get them that far anterior.

I'm seeing it as the head turned away (rotated clockwise), which is a common-enough Safari pose, rather than a straight-ahead pose like a GS Paul diagram.

But if, instead, we are seeing the actual head in lateral view it looks different. And I wouldn't trust foot sculpts for making IDs--there are people whose entire lives seem dedicated to being angry about how dino feet are designed.

Are the elephant thing and the megatherium also new? I hope it.
The green one looks like Liliensternus and the water beast left in the picture looks very interesting. First i thought he is a basilosaurus, but his hind legs are too big for that.

Tupolew Tu-154 wrote:

Are the elephant thing and the megatherium also new? I hope it.
The green one looks like Liliensternus and the water beast left in the picture looks very interesting. First i thought he is a basilosaurus, but his hind legs are too big for that.

No, it's an aquatic crocodilian.

The mammals all appear to be re-issues of some of their prehistoric mammals from around 2006.

I just realized, I hope this means a new prehistoric mammal toob. Because speculating is fun!

sbell wrote:

halichoeres wrote:

You could be right. The reason I think it's a sauropod is that the metatarsals look short, i.e., it looks like it has sauropod hind feet. I can see a Shantungosaurus from a certain angle, although what would be eye in that case looks like a ear or laryngeal spot in the sauropod interpretation. If Safari is following the recent trend in reconstructions of placing nares distally, then a Shunosaurus head would look more horselike as they fill in the soft tissue to get them that far anterior.

I'm seeing it as the head turned away (rotated clockwise), which is a common-enough Safari pose, rather than a straight-ahead pose like a GS Paul diagram.

But if, instead, we are seeing the actual head in lateral view it looks different. And I wouldn't trust foot sculpts for making IDs--there are people whose entire lives seem dedicated to being angry about how dino feet are designed.

Yeah, I think I see what you're saying. I also think the head is turned (away from the viewer slightly). So the patch of coppery coloration that covers the head looks to me to extend onto the neck and cover a dark spot. I can only see an ornithopod if I see that spot as an eye. But if it's instead merely a spot, the head looks a lot shorter and more sauropod-like, even if it is turned away. Does that make sense?

There better be a prehistoric mammal tube. I've been speculating that for awhile.

halichoeres wrote:

sbell wrote:

halichoeres wrote:

You could be right. The reason I think it's a sauropod is that the metatarsals look short, i.e., it looks like it has sauropod hind feet. I can see a Shantungosaurus from a certain angle, although what would be eye in that case looks like a ear or laryngeal spot in the sauropod interpretation. If Safari is following the recent trend in reconstructions of placing nares distally, then a Shunosaurus head would look more horselike as they fill in the soft tissue to get them that far anterior.

I'm seeing it as the head turned away (rotated clockwise), which is a common-enough Safari pose, rather than a straight-ahead pose like a GS Paul diagram.

But if, instead, we are seeing the actual head in lateral view it looks different. And I wouldn't trust foot sculpts for making IDs--there are people whose entire lives seem dedicated to being angry about how dino feet are designed.

Yeah, I think I see what you're saying. I also think the head is turned (away from the viewer slightly). So the patch of coppery coloration that covers the head looks to me to extend onto the neck and cover a dark spot. I can only see an ornithopod if I see that spot as an eye. But if it's instead merely a spot, the head looks a lot shorter and more sauropod-like, even if it is turned away. Does that make sense?

It does--I didn't see it as a sauropod until you mentioned how you saw the 'eye'. It's like a magic eye or whatever puzzle--it can be seen two ways!

sbell wrote:

john2xtheman wrote:

QuollMate wrote:

john2xtheman wrote:

So far it looks like it's going to be
Shunosaurus lii
Iguanodon bernissartensis
Masiakasaurus knopfleri
Dakosaurus maximus
and an updated sculpt of
Carcharodontosaurus saharicus

And there is still one more to be revealed...

It doesn't really look like a dakosaurus to me. It looks too— crocodile like. Dakosaurus has a T-Rex kind of head. That's interesting.

You are thinking of Dakosaurus andiniensis,which is understandable with it being in the prehistoric crocodiles toob.But this is Dakosaurus maximus,which has a skull and body that matches perfectly with the model seen.

AFAIK none of the animals' names have been given yet, and there are lots of potential metrirhynchids.

I'm more confused about the Shunosaurus? I don't see a sauropod, and certainly not one with a club tail.

If it had been from a company like Schleich,I might think the marine crocodile could be any number of possible genera,but the sculpt here seems to be too precise to be anything other than Dakosaurus maximus.But Safari Ltd. will confirm whether I know what I'm talking about or not in due time.Unless they don't specify which particular genera it is and just call it a prehistoric crocodile!  
Shunosaurus lii is just the best guess I can come up with at the moment.The problem is that it's head is turning away,so I can't get a good look at it.This may also affect how long the neck seems to be in the picture.It's feet are in the grass so I can't judge from that either.Even the end of it's tail is obscured!
As for the other three,I am so confident that they are Carcharodontosaurus saharicus,Masiakasaurus knopfleri and Iguanodon bernissartensis that if Safari says they are anything else they will be wrong!(Hyperbole is something EVERYONE should strive for!)

sbell wrote:

The mammals all appear to be re-issues of some of their prehistoric mammals from around 2006.

I hope for bigger ones, the old line was too small.

john2xtheman wrote:

sbell wrote:

john2xtheman wrote:

QuollMate wrote:

john2xtheman wrote:

So far it looks like it's going to be
Shunosaurus lii
Iguanodon bernissartensis
Masiakasaurus knopfleri
Dakosaurus maximus
and an updated sculpt of
Carcharodontosaurus saharicus

And there is still one more to be revealed...

It doesn't really look like a dakosaurus to me. It looks too— crocodile like. Dakosaurus has a T-Rex kind of head. That's interesting.

You are thinking of Dakosaurus andiniensis,which is understandable with it being in the prehistoric crocodiles toob.But this is Dakosaurus maximus,which has a skull and body that matches perfectly with the model seen.

AFAIK none of the animals' names have been given yet, and there are lots of potential metrirhynchids.

I'm more confused about the Shunosaurus? I don't see a sauropod, and certainly not one with a club tail.

If it had been from a company like Schleich,I might think the marine crocodile could be any number of possible genera,but the sculpt here seems to be too precise to be anything other than Dakosaurus maximus.But Safari Ltd. will confirm whether I know what I'm talking about or not in due time.Unless they don't specify which particular genera it is and just call it a prehistoric crocodile!  
Shunosaurus is just the best guess I can come up with at the moment.The problem is that it's head is turning away,so I can't get a good look at it.This may also affect how long the neck seems to be in the picture.It's feet are in the grass so I can't judge from that either.Even the end of it's tail is obscured!
As for the other three,I am so confident that they are Carcharodontosaurus saharicus,Masiakasaurus knopfleri and Iguanodon bernissartensis that if Safari says they are anything else they will be wrong!

Safari almost never relates to specific species, but there's no reason to doubt those ones (although there are several carcharodontosaurs that the big theropod could be--including Giganotosaurus, Mapusaurus and Tyrannotitan. I had never heard of that last one (or paid attention to it, maybe becuase of the repeating name!) but I almost hope it is Tyrannotitan, because nobody would expect that!

QuollMate wrote:

There better be a prehistoric mammal tube. I've been speculating that for awhile.

Agreed. Especially if it included very basal mammals or even cynodonts, etc. The only thing that would make me happier is a prehistoric fishes/amphibans toob.

But I'm not holding my breath.

From what I read on the DTF,U.K. retailer Everything Dinosaur will release more information about the new Safari Ltd. dinosaurs on October 20th. Maybe then we will see the as yet unrevealed 6th one?

I'm still seeing a sauropod

I think its pretty safe to say that the Rumored Shunosaurus has finally been made

Takama wrote:

I think its pretty safe to say that the Rumored Shunosaurus has finally been made

But I still can't see the tail

Kikimalou wrote:

Takama wrote:

I think its pretty safe to say that the Rumored Shunosaurus has finally been made

But I still can't see the tail

I'm sort of thinking the same thing. If we could see the tip of the tail it would be easier to be so definite.

sbell wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Takama wrote:

I think its pretty safe to say that the Rumored Shunosaurus has finally been made

But I still can't see the tail

I'm sort of thinking the same thing. If we could see the tip of the tail it would be easier to be so definite.

I agree, the tail is probably not hiden accidentally, they probably covered it to keep the suspense. So why to do it? Much probably because it is a shunosaurus indeed.

Any sign of this supposed lynx/bobcat yet? I really only care about the wildlife and farm animals.

Kikimalou wrote:

I'm still seeing a sauropod

Where?

Tupolew Tu-154 wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

I'm still seeing a sauropod

Where?

The Tan and White Figure.

Kiki wrote:

Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:29 am  
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I think its pretty safe to say that the Rumored Shunosaurus has finally been made


But I still can't see the tail Laughing

I can see were it ends, and i see Spikes. Its a Shunosaurus

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