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75senta75
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| - Tarunyada wrote:
- Even more copies
I agree with you, I thought the same. But have you seen, now as "seller" is named "China" - not "Nayab." _________________ Yvette
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | NightLioness Moderator
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| I think he knows he got 'busted' a bit and changed his name into China. These new links are even more recognizable as copies than the previous batch...
_________________ ~Karin~
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | nayab
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| Aren't they AAAs ? |
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| They look exactly like the TOOB-models from Safari |
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| AAA is also owned by NAYAB - SUSANNE wrote:
- Aren't they AAAs ?
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | nayab
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| These are our standard products, we also sell in TOOBS to many and also to many in Jar packing 72pcs to 144pcs JAR - SUSANNE wrote:
- They look exactly like the TOOB-models from Safari
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| I see Schleich, and a Collecta buffalo Dear Nayab, when collectors are looking for Nayab models, they don't look for copies of other brands, but for the lovely, REAL Nayab models |
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| - Nayab wrote:
- NO NO there is no copy,
No ? But why are looking these kind of figures like animals by Schleich for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Schleich or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Schleich? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! _________________ Yvette
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| - Nayab wrote:
- These are our standard products, we also sell in TOOBS to many and also to many in Jar packing 72pcs to 144pcs JAR
Ok, it´s one of your "standard products." ![cheers](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_cheers.png) But what does it means! But why are looking these kind of "standard products" like animals by Safari for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Safari or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Safari? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! study Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! study _________________ Yvette
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| - 75senta75 wrote:
- Nayab wrote:
- NO NO there is no copy,
No ? But why are looking these kind of figures like animals by Schleich for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Schleich or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Schleich? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! I agree with Yvette! If you are being honest, we can work with that. We can learn, comment and discuss without the feeling of being fooled. We can all see the copies from Schleich, CollectA, AAA and Papo. And Papo already gave an answer that they don't know you nor the products you sell. Nor did they cooperate with you to produce these models. Making a mold out of an excising model that is not from your hands, is coping... Who are you? We don't see these copies on Brand Nayabs website. You also changed your Amazone name, but not here. It is because admins have to do that? _________________ ~Karin~
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| - nayab wrote:
- AAA is also owned by NAYAB
Do you can tell me if the big reptiles from AAA are still being produced? |
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| Yes its still being produced but only when buyer like to buy in large quantity, - arafan wrote:
- nayab wrote:
- AAA is also owned by NAYAB
Do you can tell me if the big reptiles from AAA are still being produced? |
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| i no need to give you any evidence, if anyone have problem with us or with our product, ask them contact with us, you are labeling us all the time copy products,you are most stupid person i have ever seen this is our product which we selling in USA since last 20 years, and you can see this product every where even in your city you can find in toy store. do you think only western can produce this type figurine toys? - 75senta75 wrote:
- Nayab wrote:
- These are our standard products, we also sell in TOOBS to many and also to many in Jar packing 72pcs to 144pcs JAR
Ok, it´s one of your "standard products." But what does it means! But why are looking these kind of "standard products" like animals by Safari for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Safari or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Safari? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! study Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! study |
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| - nayab wrote:
- i no need to give you any evidence, if anyone have problem with us or with our product, ask them contact with us, you are labeling us all the time copy products,you are most stupid person i have ever seen
this is our product which we selling in USA since last 20 years, and you can see this product every where even in your city you can find in toy store.
do you think only western can produce this type figurine toys?
- 75senta75 wrote:
- Nayab wrote:
- These are our standard products, we also sell in TOOBS to many and also to many in Jar packing 72pcs to 144pcs JAR
Ok, it´s one of your "standard products." But what does it means! But why are looking these kind of "standard products" like animals by Safari for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Safari or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Safari? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! study Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! study Hey! ![exclamation](/users/3211/17/63/12/smiles/2620290309.png) It is NOT nice to call Yvette stupid! Now I am really pissed of!!! Yvette asked many times for a clear explanation for all the OTHER copies and products, not only for this set. You can't provide any information whatsoever and instead you 'defend' yourself by calling a member stupid... Not really mature! >.< Why can't she contact here? You can give us all the information, as I am sure more members think most of them are copies. I must say that I do recognize the tiger, elephant and cheetah from this set, also in the Netherlands. But that does not mean you are a real member of Nayab, those other sets you advertise are not copies and that you have not respond formally to any other question we ask! I do not apologize for any tone I have set here, you don't call a member stupid! _________________ ~Karin~
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| - NightLioness wrote:
- nayab wrote:
- i no need to give you any evidence, if anyone have problem with us or with our product, ask them contact with us, you are labeling us all the time copy products,you are most stupid person i have ever seen
this is our product which we selling in USA since last 20 years, and you can see this product every where even in your city you can find in toy store.
do you think only western can produce this type figurine toys?
- 75senta75 wrote:
- Nayab wrote:
- These are our standard products, we also sell in TOOBS to many and also to many in Jar packing 72pcs to 144pcs JAR
Ok, it´s one of your "standard products." But what does it means! But why are looking these kind of "standard products" like animals by Safari for 100% ? May I ask you, are these "Original Nayab figures" made in cooperation with Safari or has "Nayab" an licence or permission by Safari? Or is it telepathy or I don´t see the differences betwee the figures ? May I ask you, who is the person behind the user "Nayab" ? A collector, the company Nayab or someone who does not belongs to the company Nayab ? Knows the real Nayab company, what you are writing here ? Please do not tell, that these animals are originals, which were made and developed by " Nayab. " If you want "to sell" me this figures as "original figures" by any brand, so do not think the collectors here on STS are stupid. Should I be on "the wrong way", so please feel give us some evidence ! study Should I be on "the wrong way", so please give us some evidence! And don't forget, no answer is also an anwer! Prove, what you say, I like learning always new facts about our hobby! study Hey! It is NOT nice to call Yvette stupid! Now I am really pissed of!!! Yvette asked many times for a clear explanation for all the OTHER copies and products, not only for this set. You can't provide any information whatsoever and instead you 'defend' yourself by calling a member stupid... Not really mature! >.<
Why can't she contact here? You can give us all the information, as I am sure more members think most of them are copies.
I must say that I do recognize the tiger, elephant and cheetah from this set, also in the Netherlands. But that does not mean you are a real member of Nayab, those other sets you advertise are not copies and that you have not respond formally to any other question we ask!
I do not apologize for any tone I have set here, you don't call a member stupid! Totally agree ! |
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| you people dose not know anything about manufacturing, you are just kids who collect the figurine toy, you thinking only western companies can develop such figurines but reality is that all western companies depend in china to manufacture their products in china,
there is many companies in china products million of toys but they do not publicity as western do so because of this reason you kids dose not know reality and start believing that western are the only one who done this product and rest all doing copy.
grow up kids, animals has no copy, |
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| - nayab wrote:
- you people dose not know anything about manufacturing, you are just kids who collect the figurine toy, you thinking only western companies can develop such figurines but reality is that all western companies depend in china to manufacture their products in china,
there is many companies in china products million of toys but they do not publicity as western do so because of this reason you kids dose not know reality and start believing that western are the only one who done this product and rest all doing copy.
grow up kids, animals has no copy, I don't think this kind of behavior should be tolerated on this forum, I think this is very rude from your side Nayab. (also, how unprofessional, are you really someone from Nayab? Do they really know how you work for their "PR"?) Also, some of Nayab products you show here and in other eBay links are clearly copies of the major brands, we can see it very well. You don't have more arguments so you call people stupid, this is exactly what many people do when they don't have logical arguments to use. But it doesn't help! You can call me stupid but would that change the facts about the toys you want to sell? I don't think this forum should promote the copycats like some products from the website you are showing here and by all means, it should not promote name calling and rude behavior. _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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| how you say we selling copy? you have any evidence? - Ana wrote:
- nayab wrote:
- you people dose not know anything about manufacturing, you are just kids who collect the figurine toy, you thinking only western companies can develop such figurines but reality is that all western companies depend in china to manufacture their products in china,
there is many companies in china products million of toys but they do not publicity as western do so because of this reason you kids dose not know reality and start believing that western are the only one who done this product and rest all doing copy.
grow up kids, animals has no copy, I don't think this kind of behavior should be tolerated on this forum, I think this is very rude from your side Nayab.
Also, some of Nayab products you show here and in other eBay links are clearly copies of the major brands, we can see it very well. You don't have more arguments so you call people stupid, this is exactly what many people do when they don't have logical arguments to use. But it doesn't help! You can call me stupid but would that change the facts about the toys you want to sell?
I don't think this forum should promote the copycats like some products from the website you are showing here and by all means, it should not promote name calling and rude behavior.
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| Once again, I don't really have too much time for the conversation like this. I think you should first apologise my friends Yvette, Karin and Florian and perhaps all collectors because you called us all "stupid kids". Otherwise I would message admins asking for your removal from our community or at least a warning. I think what you are doing here is very unprofessional, are you really someone from Nayab? Do they really know how do you work for their "PR"? About copies, yes, this is a quick screen shot from your auction, we see mould from other brands like Papo and Schleich. It's very easy to take the mould from existing sculpture. We already had this conversation on this forum about one year ago so I will not write much. Most of collectors here are able to see which big cat is copied from which company. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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| did you bought this product from amazon to compare with others to make sure its copy or not? or you just predicting base on picture? - Ana wrote:
- Once again, I don't really have too much time for the conversation like this. I think you should first apologise my friends Yvette, Karin and Florian. Otherwise I would message admins asking for your removal from our community or at least a warning.
I think what you are doing here is very unprofessional, are you really someone from Nayab? Do they really know how do you work for their "PR"?
About copies, yes, this is a quick screen shot from your auction, we see mould from other brands like Papo and Schleich. It's very easy to take the mould from existing sculpture. We already had this conversation on this forum about one year ago so I will not write much. Most of collectors here are able to see which big cat is copied from which company. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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| I will not buy something that appears to be a copy and a picture you provided show the products that appear to be copied. From left to right I see mould taken from Schleich lion cub, Papo lion male, Papo leopard, Schleich leopard cub, Schleich tiger cub and Papo tigress with a cub. Even, the painting looks almost the same. If you can show the "in hand" photos of the products, or comparison with the originals showing a lot of differences I will believe you. But I will not buy the products myself to check it. It is what Yvette asked you already several times, we think those are copies, you claim they are not, so please, prove it. Providing clear pictures proving it would be the best idea. And apologising for name calling and insulting forum members is what we expect from you also. _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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