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| List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. | |
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Roger Admin
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| Subject: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:52 am | |
| Echinoderms (Phylum Echinodermata) are marine animals whose adults are recognizable by their (usually five-point) radial symmetry, and include such well-known animals as starfish, sea urchins, sand dollars, and sea cucumbers, as well as the sea lilies or "stone lilies". With the exception of sea stars, they're rarely represented in toy shape and that is the reason why this topic represents such a basal taxa level.
Sea stars, class Asteroidea Order Forcipulatida:
- Common starfish , Asterias rubens Posted on TAi: Safari (Good Luck Minis, orange version from Wild Safari Sea Life and the Ocean TOOB)... Missing on TAi: Wild Safari Sea Life Purple starfish, B.C.L.A starfish...
- Ochre sea star, PISASTER OCHRACEUS Missing on TAi: AAA Sea star
Order Valvatida:
- Common comet star Linckia guildingi Posted on TAI: Play Visions Blue Sea Star
- Blue Linckia, Linckia laevigata Posted on TAi: Safari Coral Reef TOOB (conj.) Missing on TAi: Joy City Sea Life Toob (orange)
- Ocellate sea star, Nardoa novaecaledoniae Posted on TAi: Play Visions ocelate sea star
- Rose sea star, Nardoa rosea Posted on TAi: Play Visions rose sea star
- Icon star, Iconaster longimanus Posted on TAi: Play Visions icon star
- Necklace starfish, Fromia monilis Posted on TAi: Play Visions Necklasse starfish
- Red sea star, Fromia milleporella Missing on TAi: Epoch Harlequin shrimp preying sea star
- Horned sea star, Protoreaster nodosus Posted on TAi: Bullyland starfish family
- Edmond's sea star, Anthenea edmondi Posted on Tai: Play Visions Edmond's sea star
- Bat star, Patiria miniata Posted on TAi: Safari's Incredible Creature bat star
(Antarctic) Red sea star Posted on TAI: Happy Kin Toys (Red and yellow)
- Common sunstar, Crossaster papposus Posted on TAi: Bullyland sun starfish, Play Visions spiny sunstar
- Purple sunstar, Solaster endeca Posted on TAi: Play Visions purple sunstar
- Crown-of-thorns starfish, Acanthaster planci Posted on TAi: K&M Venomous Adventure Tube
- Mediterranean red sea star, Echinaster sepositus Posted on TAi: Panini Marine Animals (conj.)
Sand dollars, order Clypeasteroida - Sand dolar Posted on TAi: Safari Seashells TOOB (undetermined species)
Sea cucumbers, class Holothuroidea Posted on TAi: Kaiyodo Deep Sea Odyssey 2 Enypniastes - Sea pigs, Scotoplanes Posted on TAi: Kaiyodo Deep Sea Odyssey 1 Seapig , Takara Sea pig
Crinoids, Class: Crinoidea Pleurocystites Posted on TAi: UHA Dinotales Series 3
Incertae sedis Posted on TAi: K&M (blue sea star from Coral Reef tube and starfish from Kelp Forest tube), Playmobil (orange, red, blue and yellow sea stars), Safari Glow-in-the-dark, Schleich Mini, "Deseo"'s starfish (pictured below)...
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| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35845
| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:57 am | |
| Obviously you can't find here anything that is not yet on TAi once I am a TAI editor, though, if someone knows other figures, even cheaply made, generic, please share and we will discuss them together. You can find here other sea stars whose species identification was not possible yet. There is also a AAA sea star, around 10 cm large, though, I don't know the species... anyone? I believe, especially that these two K&M sea stars are identifiable to species level once they're unusual looking ones. Blue is from Coral Reef tube while other is from Kelp Forest tube. Any suggestion? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Both pictures are from Beatrice's collection. |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:56 pm | |
| I also need help with the Play Visions Edmond's sea star, I can't find the exact scientific name for that species although I can find some references to it. Maybe an invalide taxa or a reclassified species? If someone knows please let me know. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Picture from Beatrice |
| | | Kikimalou Admin
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| | | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:03 pm | |
| - Kikimalou wrote:
- isn't the tile a bit too long?
It was not easy to figure it out but I think you mean the title, isn't it? I copied the content of the post to the title, what a genial croc I am. By the way, do you have any idea of the scientific name of the Edmonds sea star? |
| | | Kikimalou Admin
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| | | | NightLioness Moderator
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:58 pm | |
| Roger, are you sure it is an Edmond's sea star? When looking on Google, and searching on that name, no similar real sea star is showing up Play Vision has a tendency to name they figures wrong (as they did with some cetaceans ) So maybe, it is an other kid op sea star?? _________________ ~Karin~
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| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:53 pm | |
| - Kikimalou wrote:
- Roger wrote:
By the way, do you have any idea of the scientific name of the Edmonds sea star? No... I don't watch enough TV shows I guess - NightLioness wrote:
- Roger, are you sure it is an Edmond's sea star?
When looking on Google, and searching on that name, no similar real sea star is showing up Play Vision has a tendency to name they figures wrong (as they did with some cetaceans ) So maybe, it is an other kid op sea star?? No, I am not sure it is but I am also not sure it is not. Play Visions explored a world of very obscure creatures, thugs, it is normal that they made some mistakes. It is much easier for toy companies that make pandas , lions and polar bearsto avoid mistakes. The figure is marked Edmond's sea star. It is incredible how few references to this species what shows how bold was PV releasing it. I've found that the common name Edmonds sea star is used to a species whose scientific name is Anthenea edmondi Clark 1970. Clark? I was sure it was described by someone called Edmond instead Then, I've found that Goniodiscus acutus Perrier 1869 is a synonyme. Perrier? Edmond Perrier! It has no Wikipedia page and information is ambiguous in some sites about taxa validity. Some claim it is a valide taxa some makes me think that it has now another sicentific name. I've found few pictures, none similar to the figure but also not enough different to be sure that we are not talking about the same species. I doubt that 20 years agoPV could be very documented about this animal. :) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | NightLioness Moderator
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:00 pm | |
| Wauw, one mysterious sea star it is then! But you did a great job at least finding a name for it.
_________________ ~Karin~
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| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35845
| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:00 pm | |
| As I commented, there is unless one starfish made by AAA as you can see on catalogue picture. It is a 10 cm figure and still not on Toy Animal Wiki. The figure looks a common starfish to me, any other opinion? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]image post - NightLioness wrote:
- Wauw, one mysterious sea star it is then!
But you did a great job at least finding a name for it.
Thanks Karin, it was not easy indeed. Now I hope to be able of finding something to match with these K&M sea stars. I've found that now they use the common name of Sidney cushion star to Anthenea edmondi, it seems the star have different stages of evolution assuming different morphology, it created some confusion among scientists that thought they were different species when they are in fact different stages. It, together with some color variations turn really hard to identify starfish just watching pictures. I added a page for Edmond's sea star on TAI and now we have 14 different species of stafish. |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:57 am | |
| I've found more sea stars not listed on TAI, the first belongs to a sea life tube sold as Joy City. The star seems to be the same as we can find in Safari Coral Reef TOOB. I am quite sure that the exact species is Linckia laevigata, blue linckia, a species that can be orange too. Picture is from Andreas' collection. (orange) blue linckia [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Another starfish missing on TAI is: Safari 277029 Purple Starfish discontinued in 2011 The same mold as the orange starfish and as common starfish can be violet colored, so that's another common starfish. Anyone has it? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Also that Epoch sea star trying to make some friendshrimp. Harlequin Shrimp devouring a starfish! (Fromia milleporella)? ... unless, in this video, I think that's the exact species that we see. Picture is from Gerry's ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) collection. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Still this one marked with B.C.L.A 1997 From Nardien's (@Stardust) collection. Likely a common starfish. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I hope the owners of these pictures don't mind that I use them, actually they are posted exactly as in their original posts. |
| | | Tarunyada
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:44 pm | |
| Roger, I found this picture on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'s site (for sale/trade section): [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I don't think the sea star in the right-hand corner is on TAi yet Not sure about the one playing hide-and-seek at the bottom left side.. |
| | | NightLioness Moderator
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:13 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- As I commented, there is unless one starfish made by AAA as you can see on catalogue picture.
It is a 10 cm figure and still not on Toy Animal Wiki. The figure looks a common starfish to me, any other opinion?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] image post
It does look like a common starfish indeed. And the one in the corner hiding in the photo (Deseo photo) in Julies comment is the same as this one I think :) _________________ ~Karin~
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| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:39 pm | |
| Thanks Karin and Julie, Karin I agree with you, the large on Emilia's picture seems to be the AAA figure. She is a contributor on TAi, maybe she still has it and can provide a picture. I'll ask her. Julie, with that painting I am sure it is not yet on TAi and I have no idea about the species. Though, the mold I don't know if it is different from those we already know, it is possible to find many similar molds with different painting being sold as OEM figures. Many thanks for your support and here is AAA starfish on Parodi's catalogue. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | Bowhead Whale
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:42 pm | |
| - NightLioness wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- As I commented, there is unless one starfish made by AAA as you can see on catalogue picture.
It is a 10 cm figure and still not on Toy Animal Wiki. The figure looks a common starfish to me, any other opinion?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] image post
It does look like a common starfish indeed.
And the one in the corner hiding in the photo (Deseo photo) in Julies comment is the same as this one I think :) It is NOT a Common Starfish, it is an OCHRE Starfish: PISASTER OCHRACEUS. Common starfishes have a skin covered with tiny roundish nodules. But look at this one: its skin has white wrinkles. See what I mean? |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:29 pm | |
| - Bowhead Whale wrote:
- NightLioness wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- As I commented, there is unless one starfish made by AAA as you can see on catalogue picture.
It is a 10 cm figure and still not on Toy Animal Wiki. The figure looks a common starfish to me, any other opinion?
It does look like a common starfish indeed.
And the one in the corner hiding in the photo (Deseo photo) in Julies comment is the same as this one I think :) It is NOT a Common Starfish, it is an OCHRE Starfish: PISASTER OCHRACEUS. Common starfishes have a skin covered with tiny roundish nodules. But look at this one: its skin has white wrinkles. See what I mean? Yes, you seem to be good idetifying several kind of animals what is really helpful to everyone. I think your proposal matches it much better and thanks for additional explanation. |
| | | Bowhead Whale
Country/State : Canada Age : 47 Joined : 2012-01-31 Posts : 2637
| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:16 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Bowhead Whale wrote:
- NightLioness wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- As I commented, there is unless one starfish made by AAA as you can see on catalogue picture.
It is a 10 cm figure and still not on Toy Animal Wiki. The figure looks a common starfish to me, any other opinion?
It does look like a common starfish indeed.
And the one in the corner hiding in the photo (Deseo photo) in Julies comment is the same as this one I think :) It is NOT a Common Starfish, it is an OCHRE Starfish: PISASTER OCHRACEUS. Common starfishes have a skin covered with tiny roundish nodules. But look at this one: its skin has white wrinkles. See what I mean? Yes, you seem to be good idetifying several kind of animals what is really helpful to everyone.
I think your proposal matches it much better and thanks for additional explanation. Thank you for your compliment. However, I must admit I know more about sea stars than fishes. |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:10 pm | |
| Thanks to Valerie, one more sea star species was added to original list. It is Odontaster validus , one of several sea stars known as red sea star. Those are the Happy Kin Toys that use both the same mold. Thanks Bowhead. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | widukind
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:40 pm | |
| I have these in my collection. But i havent a book to look for the species at the moment [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:38 am | |
| Thanks Andreas, a good part of them are already listed here and on TAi. Though, as it was expectable from you, there are some not listed yet. If you could take individual pictures of those not on TAi, we could help you better with the species identification. It was also added the Pleurocystites that Valerie posted. |
| | | widukind
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:23 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Thanks Andreas, a good part of them are already listed here and on TAi. Though, as it was expectable from you, there are some not listed yet. If you could take individual pictures of those not on TAi, we could help you better with the species identification.
It was also added the Pleurocystites that Valerie posted. Thank you i will do it. But in my collection i dont have the PV versions, so i think there are more for TAI. |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:36 pm | |
| - widukind wrote:
- Thank you i will do it. But in my collection i dont have the PV versions, so i think there are more for TAI.
So those are the famous knock offs? I often see them for sale in groups of 12 instead of 8. I think Beatrice have these PV copies already pictured although they're not on TAi yet. I'll ask her and let you know. Meanwhile, you could photograph, when possible, those that are not PV knock-offs and that are not yet on TAi. |
| | | widukind
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:40 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- widukind wrote:
- Thank you i will do it. But in my collection i dont have the PV versions, so i think there are more for TAI.
So those are the famous knock offs? I often see them for sale in groups of 12 instead of 8. I think Beatrice have these PV copies already pictured although they're not on TAi yet. I'll ask her and let you know. Meanwhile, you could photograph, when possible, those that are not PV knock-offs and that are not yet on TAi. I could be possible. Only one of these figurines is marked, all others are unmarked. And so i will ask if it is possible that i have also a Bullyland copy? |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:22 am | |
| - widukind wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- widukind wrote:
- Thank you i will do it. But in my collection i dont have the PV versions, so i think there are more for TAI.
So those are the famous knock offs? I often see them for sale in groups of 12 instead of 8. I think Beatrice have these PV copies already pictured although they're not on TAi yet. I'll ask her and let you know. Meanwhile, you could photograph, when possible, those that are not PV knock-offs and that are not yet on TAi. I could be possible. Only one of these figurines is marked, all others are unmarked. And so i will ask if it is possible that i have also a Bullyland copy? Andreas, could you please check? From first row, left to right: 1 and 20 are Bullyland knock offs 3, 4, 7, 8, 11, 13, 17? and 18 are PV knock offs; 6 and 9 are K&M figures; 14 is Panini If I checked them correctly, what I doubt, could you take closer pics of other figures or tell what are they? 2, 5, 10, 12, 15, 16, 19 |
| | | WhiteLightning Wolf
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| Subject: Re: List of Echinodermata species: Sea stars, sea urchins, sand dollars, sea cucumbers, etc. Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:22 am | |
| I have no idea what kinds of sea stars these are since I'm no expert when it comes to aquatic life, but here's what I have from my childhood collection. I wrote down the brands of each too. I'm also not entirely sure what a sea cucumber is lol but I THINK the one I have with the sea stars pictured here is indeed a sea cucumber. Please correct me if I'm wrong! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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