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sortepletter
Country/State : Niedersachsen Germany Age : 61 Joined : 2012-07-27 Posts : 681
| Subject: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed May 31, 2017 7:44 pm | |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45625
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed May 31, 2017 7:55 pm | |
| Congratulations :) _________________ www.spielzeugtiere.com STS members can merge Andreas |
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NightLioness Moderator
Country/State : The Netherlands, Friesland. Age : 33 Joined : 2013-11-04 Posts : 5073
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed May 31, 2017 9:06 pm | |
| Florian already made a video on Facebook and informed Mojo Fun about it. It seems their new plastic is not working good. Such a shame as it is a beautiful horse! _________________ ~Karin~
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed May 31, 2017 9:22 pm | |
| Holy Hamster !!! Are the legs hollow ? But a fantastic model ! Thankyou very much for sharing _________________ SUSANNE |
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Florian
Country/State : Belgium , Plateau de Herve Age : 27 Joined : 2013-03-31 Posts : 1936
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed May 31, 2017 9:27 pm | |
| Hi, I got mine with exactly the same problem ! I contacted Mojo for this problem ! They replied me they would do something and they would resolve the problem. They also replied me I would get a replacement for my pieces ! I exactly had the same problem with the dinosaurs (T-Rex and Allosaurus). I think they understand it is a big problem because it shows a regression of the plastic's quality. _________________ My Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/The-Golden-Bearcat-309766575879328/?ref=ts&fref=ts
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sortepletter
Country/State : Niedersachsen Germany Age : 61 Joined : 2012-07-27 Posts : 681
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:48 am | |
| I got the impression it's not really plastic at all but rather some sort of rubber. They are so soft, I can even bend the horse's heads. |
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Florian
Country/State : Belgium , Plateau de Herve Age : 27 Joined : 2013-03-31 Posts : 1936
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:37 am | |
| - sortepletter wrote:
- I got the impression it's not really plastic at all but rather some sort of rubber. They are so soft, I can even bend the horse's heads.
Yes me too, it is exactly the same ! _________________ My Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/The-Golden-Bearcat-309766575879328/?ref=ts&fref=ts
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barracudacat
Country/State : USA Age : 40 Joined : 2016-08-11 Posts : 640
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:22 pm | |
| Congratulations of acquiring this beautiful figure! It's such a shame about the plastic quality. I can't imagine this would stand up to much rough housing or play. However, if they are able to fix it, this piece looks like a must have. |
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onatello
Country/State : Czech Republic Age : 38 Joined : 2015-02-13 Posts : 639
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:59 pm | |
| The sculpt is beautiful, paintjob is nice, but the jelly material is...dissapointing Is there way to fix the bent legs? Mine is on a way, I hope he will be ok... _________________ I have two main passions: collecting and drawing animals Ars Animalium = Animal Art Ars Animalium on facebook I am Ars Animalium on Insta |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:42 pm | |
| Oh, I so hope they will fix the plastic issue, it does look way too soft! _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
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sortepletter
Country/State : Niedersachsen Germany Age : 61 Joined : 2012-07-27 Posts : 681
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onatello
Country/State : Czech Republic Age : 38 Joined : 2015-02-13 Posts : 639
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:54 pm | |
| _________________ I have two main passions: collecting and drawing animals Ars Animalium = Animal Art Ars Animalium on facebook I am Ars Animalium on Insta |
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Bloodrayne
Country/State : Netherlands Age : 54 Joined : 2012-12-14 Posts : 1755
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:08 pm | |
| If the legs bend back to the same position after that kind of treatment, I don't really see an issue with the material used. As long as things don't warp or get deformed and the paint doesn't suffer form it, does it really matter it's not solid plastic but instead this rubbery material? _________________ Simone |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
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Takama
Country/State : USA Age : 32 Joined : 2012-07-12 Posts : 2061
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:59 pm | |
| Mojo Stated that they are using a New Plastic Called TPR, instead of PVC |
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Tove
Country/State : Norway Age : 80 Joined : 2012-12-09 Posts : 967
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:13 am | |
| I got my Shire horse today and he is beautiful. The new material seems not to be a problem, and you have to use much force to bend the legs as it is shown on the pictures. I was very pleased when I at last hold him in my hands, especially after seeing this terrible bended legs. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35774
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:44 am | |
| It is all very interesting but I am not sure Mojö made the best decision here. As Takama just informed through Mojö, it is a TPR and not a PVC. Checking how elastic it is, it is evident now that it couldn't be any kind of PVC. The use of TPR in toy animal figures is not new. It turns figures more resistant to stress, thus, much harder to break. I believe also this material is less shocking. It do really not deformes once it recovers easily the original shape. However, this material is not very appreciated among collectors and I know many customers also do not connect it with quality, contrarily with what happens with a dense pvc. Mojö keeps experiencing different materials to their figures, I believe it is not easy to find the best formula and who works directly with these materials, is much more experienced than we are. However, using this material in a mould like this one doesn't seem to be an adjusted idea. It is a draft horse, a very robuste figure without any delicate parts, a conventional pvc would not surely cause any incovenience to this figure. I know that when we watch our figures in a shelf, the result is the same if it is PVC or a kind of TPR. But we also love to touch our figures and our tactile experience is the first that give us a real impression of the quality of the figure. PVC is a material that mimics much better nobble materials than TPR does. It is a fantastic feeling when we touch a heavy figure with a sturdy pvc, instead of a rubberish figure. The horse here sculpted is of a sublime quality and it deserved a more consistent material. Even if we cannot tell that it is a problem once there is no defect, the best suggestion I can give to Mojö is that in the past, some brands dicreased their reputation when they started using more rubber like materials. It may look a paradox once figures tend to live for a longer time but we live in a society where things last short in our lifes and where we are very influenced for the first impression. Not that I agree with it but it is important to be aware of it once I wish a long life to this company. This magnificent Shire horse, should never be a rubbery toy. |
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SyLoBe
Country/State : Spain Age : 37 Joined : 2010-12-13 Posts : 2930
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:38 pm | |
| I really like the horses by Anna, but I won´t buy them unless they change the material. I can´t stand a plastic so soft. _________________ Visit my collection gallery at http://sylobe.deviantart.com/gallery/26714361
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onatello
Country/State : Czech Republic Age : 38 Joined : 2015-02-13 Posts : 639
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:47 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- It is all very interesting but I am not sure Mojö made the best decision here. As Takama just informed through Mojö, it is a TPR and not a PVC. Checking how elastic it is, it is evident now that it couldn't be any kind of PVC. The use of TPR in toy animal figures is not new. It turns figures more resistant to stress, thus, much harder to break. I believe also this material is less shocking. It do really not deformes once it recovers easily the original shape. However, this material is not very appreciated among collectors and I know many customers also do not connect it with quality, contrarily with what happens with a dense pvc. Mojö keeps experiencing different materials to their figures, I believe it is not easy to find the best formula and who works directly with these materials, is much more experienced than we are. However, using this material in a mould like this one doesn't seem to be an adjusted idea. It is a draft horse, a very robuste figure without any delicate parts, a conventional pvc would not surely cause any incovenience to this figure. I know that when we watch our figures in a shelf, the result is the same if it is PVC or a kind of TPR. But we also love to touch our figures and our tactile experience is the first that give us a real impression of the quality of the figure. PVC is a material that mimics much better nobble materials than TPR does. It is a fantastic feeling when we touch a heavy figure with a sturdy pvc, instead of a rubberish figure. The horse here sculpted is of a sublime quality and it deserved a more consistent material. Even if we cannot tell that it is a problem once there is no defect, the best suggestion I can give to Mojö is that in the past, some brands dicreased their reputation when they started using more rubber like materials. It may look a paradox once figures tend to live for a longer time but we live in a society where things last short in our lifes and where we are very influenced for the first impression. Not that I agree with it but it is important to be aware of it once I wish a long life to this company. This magnificent Shire horse, should never be a rubbery toy.
Absolutely! It's a shame, that they turned a sculpture (it really is a sculpture, a piece of art) to a rubber toy. _________________ I have two main passions: collecting and drawing animals Ars Animalium = Animal Art Ars Animalium on facebook I am Ars Animalium on Insta |
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NightLioness Moderator
Country/State : The Netherlands, Friesland. Age : 33 Joined : 2013-11-04 Posts : 5073
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:42 am | |
| When V&D was still a store (it is bankrupt now), it sold Mojo Fun here in the Netherlands. Sadly, most of the time, I saw broken parts laying between the animals they sold. Broken tails and ears from horses, little horns from their giraffes. Those animals with their broken parts are not sold and where laying there for weeks on end. Kids grab toys as often as they can, it seems, with no parental sight. Playing with them, breaking them and not buying them. It is frustrating to see, and heartbreaking as well. Maybe Mojo choose to change their material because of the easy breakable animals? _________________ ~Karin~
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Florian
Country/State : Belgium , Plateau de Herve Age : 27 Joined : 2013-03-31 Posts : 1936
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:12 pm | |
| - NightLioness wrote:
- When V&D was still a store (it is bankrupt now), it sold Mojo Fun here in the Netherlands.
Sadly, most of the time, I saw broken parts laying between the animals they sold. Broken tails and ears from horses, little horns from their giraffes. Those animals with their broken parts are not sold and where laying there for weeks on end. Kids grab toys as often as they can, it seems, with no parental sight. Playing with them, breaking them and not buying them. It is frustrating to see, and heartbreaking as well. Maybe Mojo choose to change their material because of the easy breakable animals? It is interesting what you say Karin, I often saw broken Mojo figures in the Vromen Dreesman in Maastricht but has closed now _________________ My Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/The-Golden-Bearcat-309766575879328/?ref=ts&fref=ts
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75senta75
Country/State : Germany Age : 57 Joined : 2011-11-09 Posts : 2674
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:07 pm | |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35774
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:21 pm | |
| That's all so sad for me. We've red here lot of people complaining of Mojö scratched and broken figures in local shops. Mainly those in USA. So Karin, maybe you are right and that was the main reason why Mojö changed dramatically their material. I was really convinced that their newer pvc formula was better and close in quality from those we see in other major brands. Apparently they gave up and now they're using that TPR. A new material, newer solutions to the painting need to be found once each material requires an adjusted paint and corresponding products to make it stick propperly. Why don't they use the Portuguese factory of Maia & Borges once they have a cooperation for sea life models? |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo Fun Shire Horse Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:30 pm | |
| Yes, this looks bad. I have shown these photos to James today, Yvette. James said he will send you a replacement, and that those production mistakes happened in an early batch of Shire horse models and that later batches have updated paint and plastic. Please, contact James of Mojo fun with your address and he'll send you a new model. _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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