Forum dedicated to collectors of animal toy replicas
 
Toy Animal WikiToy Animal Wiki  HomeHome  Latest Topics  Latest imagesLatest images  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  

 

 COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT

Go down 
+26
pouchedrat
codru
lucky luke
shadoweon
Caspian
Duck-Anch-Amun
LukaLeon085
widukind
Robert
Ana
VASILIS
MartinH
Roger
arafan
Tupolew Tu-154
javito
Barti
JamesPanda
SUSANNE
Fossa
Tarunyada
Florian
Sergey
Saarlooswolfhound
Gwaine
Numa
30 posters
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
Numa
Moderator
Numa


Country/State : England, UK
Age : 45
Joined : 2010-06-18
Posts : 1669

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 9:56 pm

So here it is.  The last and final reveal from CollectA's wild life range for 2018!  It was actually meant to be released in 2017 but it was the last animal to be sculpted and was not ready in time.  It took a while for the sculpt to be changed again and again and there was much discussion on the photo to use with the pose.  I originally suggested a walking musk ox - the photo I will share with you later (when I find it!) but I think it proved too complicated because trying to sculpt the hairs and body shape in line with the legs was probably too complex anyway and to then have it walking was too much so it was changed mid-sculpt to a simpler pose.  However, I think it works better to have an unusual animal in a simpler pose and easy but I will let you form your own opinion.

As soon as Safari announced theirs I thought yikes! We are gonna have a Musk Ox year, just like the Sable Antelope and Malayan Tapir booms in previous years (as someone suggested on the forum).  Those of you who guessed this got it right and I was just hoping none of you would get it!

A musk ox baby was also suggested at the same time as this it was not included in the list. I think it will be another case of monitoring the sales of this before any decision can be made on whether to expand the 'family' so lets see and watch this space.  I hope the CollectA model is a success but only time will tell.  Enjoy!


Official Text

The Musk Ox is the last model of our novelties for 2018. It originally stems from the Arctic. The musk ox is known for its strong odor from which its name derives. He has a very thick fur carved out in detail with the CollectA model.

Size: L12.8cm x H11.2cm

Release: Mid-2018

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]


Last edited by Numaan on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:56 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
Gwaine

Gwaine


Country/State : Netherlands
Age : 32
Joined : 2013-08-18
Posts : 5018

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 9:56 pm

So we did get a musk ox, yay!

_________________
Breyer: 66
Bullyland: 25
CollectA: 183
Papo: 82
Safari: 150
Mojo fun: 23
Playmobil: 117
Other: 288
~
schleich count: 1222
~
Total: 2156

My DeviantArt: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
My Twitter: @Tezzieh
My Instagram: tessa.b.storm
Back to top Go down
https://www.patreon.com/mrsaugustwalker
Saarlooswolfhound
Moderator
Saarlooswolfhound


Country/State : USA
Age : 28
Joined : 2012-06-16
Posts : 12022

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 9:57 pm

Beautiful, it's about time the Schleich model got a herd to run with.

_________________
-"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] )
-“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous
Back to top Go down
https://thecuriouscompendium.wixsite.com/curiouscompendium
Sergey

Sergey


Country/State : S. - Petersburg, Russia
Age : 58
Joined : 2010-09-22
Posts : 2886

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 9:59 pm

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Florian

Florian


Country/State : Belgium , Plateau de Herve
Age : 27
Joined : 2013-03-31
Posts : 1936

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 9:59 pm

Thank you, it was the last hope for this batch :p

_________________
My Facebook page : [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://atrlacollectiondeflorian.weebly.com/
Tarunyada

Tarunyada


Country/State : The Netherlands
Age : 29
Joined : 2012-12-19
Posts : 3353

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:00 pm

Hahaha, what's it with the musk ox this year? Laughing Nevermind, I love it! cheers Even in this standing pose it looks majestic! Very well done and thank you for all the announcements, Numaan! cheers

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Julie x busybusybusybusybusybusy
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] x [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
http://tarunyada.weebly.com/
Fossa

Fossa


Country/State : Spain
Age : 38
Joined : 2014-11-16
Posts : 96

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:00 pm

epic!! I love you

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
SUSANNE
Admin
SUSANNE


Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland.
Age : 72
Joined : 2010-09-30
Posts : 37808

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:15 pm

Fossa wrote:
epic!! I love you

Just the right word cheers

Gosh ! I LOVE it I love you Applause bounce cheers

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]   SUSANNE  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
http://dyr-og-dimser.dk
JamesPanda

JamesPanda


Country/State : India
Age : 53
Joined : 2015-02-28
Posts : 733

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:21 pm

Yup !!! It came finally !!! The year of the Musk Ox !! Thanks CollectA And Numaan for all the previews !!

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] James
Back to top Go down
Barti

Barti


Country/State : Polish
Age : 42
Joined : 2014-12-22
Posts : 631

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:25 pm

Wow amazing I love you world championship cheers cheers Applause Applause Horns such beautiful and it's the fur over the head my favorite character thank you Numaan cheers sunny
Back to top Go down
Gwaine

Gwaine


Country/State : Netherlands
Age : 32
Joined : 2013-08-18
Posts : 5018

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:27 pm

He looks like an old wise man, I will need to find an old wise man name for him.

_________________
Breyer: 66
Bullyland: 25
CollectA: 183
Papo: 82
Safari: 150
Mojo fun: 23
Playmobil: 117
Other: 288
~
schleich count: 1222
~
Total: 2156

My DeviantArt: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
My Twitter: @Tezzieh
My Instagram: tessa.b.storm
Back to top Go down
https://www.patreon.com/mrsaugustwalker
javito




Country/State : spain
Age : 48
Joined : 2015-12-17
Posts : 56

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 10:41 pm

Next year must be Musk Ox Year according to the Chinese Calendar! jocolor

Here it is, and therefore everyone will be able to choose between two options in the market! Since it is very clear this figure is a bull, I was now inspecting the pictures of Safari's, just to check if it could pass for a cow, but its boss on the front is quite apparent, more appropriate for a bull than for a cow... And horns are also quite large, not very cow-like... Anyway, it's an option...

I like the dynamic pose of Safari's, but I think I prefer CollectA's effect on hair and horns. Well, and why take it as a competition? I really like this figure! It's a very good year in CollectA, with great pieces! Let's enjoy them, and keep expecting more new and rare species for the future!

Thanks Numaan, as always, for the scoops! As someone has said before, november's thursdays are so funny and exciting with you!
Back to top Go down
Numa
Moderator
Numa


Country/State : England, UK
Age : 45
Joined : 2010-06-18
Posts : 1669

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 11:04 pm

javito wrote:

I like the dynamic pose of Safari's, but I think I prefer CollectA's effect on hair and horns. Well, and why take it as a competition?

Thanks Numaan, as always, for the scoops! As someone has said before, november's thursdays are so funny and exciting with you!

I totally agree. There is no competition - this is just coincidence and I don't see a problem . It enables people to create a herd of the same species in different poses. Very Happy Very Happy
Back to top Go down
Tupolew Tu-154

Tupolew Tu-154


Country/State : Skynet Central
Age : 43
Joined : 2010-11-12
Posts : 1653

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyThu Nov 23, 2017 11:04 pm

YES!!! bounce bounce bounce

But sad, that he comes in mid 2018. That is june or later.


_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
arafan

arafan


Country/State : Brazil
Age : 25
Joined : 2012-11-16
Posts : 2185

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 12:03 am

To be totaly honest I was thinking that it would be an animal that was never done by any brand, I'm a little dissapoited but it's a great model, with awesome details. But are you shure abiut that height? This will be a monster Shocked

_________________
Bryan [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
javito




Country/State : spain
Age : 48
Joined : 2015-12-17
Posts : 56

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 12:23 am

I also thought the same about the height! Perhaps a little too tall?
Back to top Go down
Roger
Admin
Roger


Country/State : Portugal
Age : 50
Joined : 2010-08-20
Posts : 35786

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 12:47 am

To be honest, the figure looks really beautiful! In direct comparison, those species crossed between Safari and CollectA for 2018, judging from catalogue photos, my preference tends to go to CollectAs. Though, Safari's muskox pose is really a point favoring it that shows how brave is its sculptor.
Talking about sculpting, that fur is fantastic, surely CollectA's sculptor was not lazy and did his best. I also fear these dimmensions are huge. people have often the perception that muxkoxen are huge like bisons but they're not. Schleich's figure was actually big when compared with similar sized animals of their range and this one have even more generous measurements. The exagerated big size in this range of toys is often disappreciated by collectors. Take as example the beautiful greater kudu by Papo, the Safari opossum or I fear also, the CollectA bongo. However, there are some animals that you could increase their size without affecting sales, try it next year if you think to replace the African rhinoceros.
About Papo, I hope they are not presenting a muskox for 2018. Laughing
It seems it is the year of the muskox for wildlife collectors and the year of the iguanodon for dino collectors. Very Happy

_________________
~ Rogério [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Tupolew Tu-154

Tupolew Tu-154


Country/State : Skynet Central
Age : 43
Joined : 2010-11-12
Posts : 1653

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 4:14 am

Roger wrote:

About Papo, I hope they are not presenting a muskox for 2018. Laughing

Why not? And Schleich make also one in their july list Razz

Collecta makes a big muskox. See the black bull, he is also very huge. But i use him as an aurochs. Twisted Evil

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
MartinH

MartinH


Country/State : Czech Republic
Age : 42
Joined : 2010-08-24
Posts : 3226

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 7:32 am

Wow!! This is a real Christmas gift for me :) I was crying for new musk-ox model for years and now Safari Ltd. made one and now this BRILLIANT musk-ox!! I´m so happy that this spectacular animal made it to a production :) Now I hope for Papo musk-ox Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
I loove details of this model... coloring and shape of his hooves. Size of his horns and that fur!! Amazing! I will have it for sure! Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

_________________
My webside / my collection / my youtube channel / my facebook / my instagram / my twitter
Back to top Go down
https://www.martinhcollection.cz/
VASILIS

VASILIS


Country/State : GREECE
Age : 51
Joined : 2012-11-22
Posts : 386

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 8:55 am

santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa  santa
santa santa                   THANK YOU             santa santa
santa santa                  THANK YOU               santa santa
santa santa             SANTA- COLLECTA        santa santa
santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa santa
Back to top Go down
Ana

Ana


Country/State : Utrecht/NL
Age : 37
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 11003

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 9:05 am

Yay! Musk ox, what a wonderful species and the model looks great! I surely will want it in my collection, it's beatiful! Very Happy:!(o)):cheers

_________________
Anna
Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures
My model horse collection
Back to top Go down
http://www.horseandbird.com
Robert




Country/State : Czech Republic
Age : 50
Joined : 2011-03-05
Posts : 521

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 10:30 am

The year of the Musk Ox! cheers Applause
Back to top Go down
widukind

widukind


Country/State : Germany
Age : 48
Joined : 2010-12-30
Posts : 45638

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 12:22 pm

A very nice musk ox. I think the best model of that specie :)

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

STS members can merge [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Andreas [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
LukaLeon085

LukaLeon085


Country/State : ITALY
Age : 39
Joined : 2011-04-03
Posts : 762

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 1:22 pm

Wonderful...but I was hoping for many rare animals and beautiful birds..

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Massimo [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
Duck-Anch-Amun




Country/State : Luxembourg
Age : 35
Joined : 2010-12-29
Posts : 1073

COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 3:00 pm

What a wonderful figurine and one more time I´ve to decide: CollectA or Safari Sad
But as always, there are many points of view: the price, the height or the most beautiful figurine. In case of the last point, I think that CollectA won, even that I like the "moving" pose of the Safari ox.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty
PostSubject: Re: COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT   COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT Empty

Back to top Go down
 
COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Musk Ox Bull (88837) FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - Bongo Calf (88823)
» COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE - African Civet (88824)
» COLLECTA 2018: WILD LIFE- Hippopotamus remake (88833)
» CollectA 2018: WILD LIFE - Pére Davids Deer (88829)
» CollectA African Wild Ass - Final Revised model photos

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
STS Forum  :: Animal toy figures reviews and discussions :: Major brands :: CollectA-
Jump to: