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PostSubject: Re: Why are so less old brands and figurines known?   Why are so less old brands and figurines known? - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 1:38 pm

arrow Andreas here are some examples to our discussion about animal figures from the Erzgebirge.
The animals were produced in the Erzgebirge for dioramas like "Paradise Gardens", almost by homemade. Many of these animals are from Seiffen or around Annaberg, these were the main areas of toy production around 1900/1930.
The sheep are made mainly of plaster, sometimes in combination with mass, the legs are made of wood.

arrow Andreas, ich möchte unsere Diskussion noch mit einigen Fotos aus meiner Tierfigurensammlung ergänzen. Auf den Fotos siehst Du die typischen Tierfiguren aus dem Erzgebirge um 1900 bis 1930.
Sie wurden meist in Heimarbeit im Nebenerwerb hergestellt. Der Körper besteht oft aus Gips, manchmals auch aus Masse. Überzogen wird der Körper oft mit "Wolle" oder Tuchstaub. Daher auch der Name "Wollschafe" oder "Tuchstaubtiere." Die Beine waren teils aus Holz, ähnlich wie Streichhölzer.
Die Tiere, meist Schafe, Wald- und Feldtiere wurden auch hauptsächlich zur Gestaltung von "Paradiesgärten" und den sogenannten "Weihnachtsbergen" verwendet. Hast Du diese Figuren schon auf Flohmärkten in Dresden gesehen ? study  Bei uns hier in Bayern findet man sie so gut wie überhaupt nicht.  scratch

arrow Here are the sheep from Erzgebirge together with the farm lady by Reisler Denmark for showing the size.
The big sheep (left side) at the first photo is by Schleich, also for showing the size.


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arrow "Wollschafe" from Erzgebirge (Seiffen/Annaberg)

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arrow Fox, squirrel and deers from Erzgebirge (Tuchstaubtiere)


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Squirrel by Schleich shows again the size.
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PostSubject: Re: Why are so less old brands and figurines known?   Why are so less old brands and figurines known? - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 2:46 pm

I know these Tuchstaubtiere, that are not so interesting for me. In the past i saw some but i dont know where. I think some are here to find on fleamarkets. I mean the compositions figurines, some are, a local friend told me, also from the 60s.

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widukind wrote:
I think some are here to find on fleamarkets.

Here they are very, very rare. So I was very happy finding them some times ago at a flea market.
If you find some of them at the flea market again, you should buy them. Have a look here at "Sold list by Ebay Germany".


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=erzgebirge+wollschafe&_sop=3

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75senta75 wrote:
widukind wrote:
I think some are here to find on fleamarkets.

Here they are very, very rare. So I was very happy finding them some times ago at a flea market.
If you find some of them at the flea market again, you should buy them. Have a look here at "Sold list by Ebay Germany".


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=erzgebirge+wollschafe&_sop=3

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Andreas wrote:
Shocked Shocked Shocked

Ich habe mein Set von ca. 30 Figuren für ein Taschengeld gefunden. Deshalb habe ich auch so geschaut, als ich die Preise auf Ebay gesehen habe. Also, immer schön die Augen auf den Flohmärkten aufhalten. Dasselbe gilt übrigens auch für Reifentiere.

arrow  I know, it´s an surprise to see the prices - I got my 30 figures for a little pocket money and that´s why I have looked in the same way, when I saw prices at Ebay. Andreas, always keep attention at the flea markets for next time!

Same prices are also for Reifentiere and other figures from Erzgebirge like these ones.  Only the zookeeper is by Lineol:

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PostSubject: Re: Why are so less old brands and figurines known?   Why are so less old brands and figurines known? - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 4:02 pm

Irgendwo müßten noch unbemalte Reifentiere rumschwirren. Die Holztiere kenne ich auch, habe ich nie mitgenommen obwohl ich die damals massenweise gesehen hatte. Auch andere Holztiere.
Übrigens gibt es hier auf dem Weihnachtsmarkt immer noch welche in der Art.

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Andreas wrote:
Irgendwo müßten noch unbemalte Reifentiere rumschwirren. Die Holztiere kenne ich auch, habe ich nie mitgenommen obwohl ich die damals massenweise gesehen hatte. Auch andere Holztiere. Übrigens gibt es hier auf dem Weihnachtsmarkt immer noch welche in der Art.

Die alten Tiere wie die abgebildete Kuh werden gesucht. Es gibt aber auch aktuell kleine Betriebe im
Ergebirge, die diese Tiere noch immer oder wieder herstellen. Daher findet man sie auch auf den Weihnachtsmärkten. Wahrscheinlich inzwischen auch "Made in China", wenn man da nicht aufpaßt.

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75senta75 wrote:
Andreas wrote:
Irgendwo müßten noch unbemalte Reifentiere rumschwirren. Die Holztiere kenne ich auch, habe ich nie mitgenommen obwohl ich die damals massenweise gesehen hatte. Auch andere Holztiere. Übrigens gibt es hier auf dem Weihnachtsmarkt immer noch welche in der Art.

Die alten Tiere wie die abgebildete Kuh werden gesucht. Es gibt aber auch aktuell kleine Betriebe im
Ergebirge, die diese Tiere noch immer oder wieder herstellen. Daher findet man sie auch auf den Weihnachtsmärkten. Wahrscheinlich inzwischen auch "Made in China", wenn man da nicht aufpaßt.

Ich denke auf dem Striezelmarkt ist es original :)

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widukind wrote:
Ich denke auf dem Striezelmarkt ist es original :)

Absolut, dort mit Sicherheit.

Yes, and more informations you can find here. Wink

arrow In English:
http://www.spielzeugmuseum-seiffen.de/index.cfm?s=e

arrow In German:
http://www.spielzeugmuseum-seiffen.de/eigene_bilder/Plakat%202017%20Miniaturen.pdf

http://www.spielwarenmacher-guenther.de/produkte

arrow Especially for Andreas:

Andreas, zur Zeit läuft im Spielzeugmuseum auch eine sehr interessante Sonderausstellung:

http://www.spielzeugmuseum-seiffen.de/sonderausstellungen_spielzeugmuseum_seiffen.cfm

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Ich will irgendwann mal in das Museum, wenn es die Zeit erlaubt :)

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