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PostSubject: Lean toys/ a ripped off schleich/papo company ?   Lean toys/ a ripped off schleich/papo company ? EmptyWed Sep 04, 2024 1:01 am

Hello everyone,

today I found some very interesting animals in the world wide web.

If they are already known, I'm sorry for wasting your time.

Lean toys is a polish toy company, established in 1995, their headquarters are in Starachowice, in southeastern Poland.

I tried to look them up in the Toy Animal Wiki, but couldn't find any information about them.

Maybe someone knows more about this company and has some of their animals in your collection, would be cool to see and for comparison.

Personally, I have very mixed feelings about how to feel about them.

There are some really cool recolours like those american black bears and some look quality wise very well painted like the gorilla female with baby.
On the other hand I think it is very cheap and cheese from a company too copy animals and even packages like the farm animals, (for a moment I thought those farm animals were made by schleich, just because of the package colour), from other brands. Schleich isn't the only one, I even saw some, which were made before from Papo.

I found them on the following websites:
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I hope it is allowed to share thoese through links.

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If you want you can use them for the toy animal wiki.

What are your thoughts about them? :)
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I sometimes see these sets in discounts shops in the UK but they are usually Chinese copies.I have the the Giant Panda model.

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Thank you Taos for the information, do you also have the schleich one? If you have both, may I ask you if could please make some comparison pictures and maybe your personal thoughts? :) Also if you see more of these items in those shops, could you please take some pictures.
I think it is always interesting to see similarities and differences of figures, which might look the same.

Maybe that's one of the points why schleich reduces its production in china because of chinese copies or they sold legally some their old casting molds too such companies. scratch
It seems they are producing more of their items nowadays in other countries like Vietnam.

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I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box
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Definitely copies, probably some chinese company. I see Schleich and Papo copies on Taobao all the time.
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Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?

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MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich
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Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich

Thank Buzzcocks, that would be super Smile

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MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich

Thank Buzzcocks, that would be super Smile
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Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich

Thank Buzzcocks, that would be super Smile
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Thank you very much you are amazing. Your pictures are awesome. cheers cheers cheers cheers

Do know what the print on the bottom wrote?
Weight and material wise are the simmilar ?

I think for a reuse it is very good product, the feathers are very well made and detailed.

Would be great if you would allow, that your pictures were put on the TAW for comparison.
Maybe someone on the forum could help write down every release for them.Smile Pheraps its a simalar situation like with Maia & Borges in Portugal but know its China Company / Lean Toys.

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PostSubject: Re: Lean toys/ a ripped off schleich/papo company ?   Lean toys/ a ripped off schleich/papo company ? EmptyMon Sep 16, 2024 6:35 am

MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich

Thank Buzzcocks, that would be super Smile
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Your welcome, if you need any other tell me

Thank you very much you are amazing. Your pictures are awesome. cheers cheers cheers cheers

Do know what the print on the bottom wrote?
Weight and material wise are the simmilar ?

I think for a reuse it is very good product, the feathers are very well made and detailed.

Would be great if you would allow, that your pictures were put on the TAW for comparison.
Maybe someone on the forum could help write down every release for them.Smile  Pheraps its a  simalar situation like with Maia & Borges in Portugal but know its China Company / Lean Toys.
I don't mind I allow if anyone wants to use my pictures
The weight is the same but not the material, a very hard plastic and it's nothing writing in the bottom. And yes you're right the feathers details are very good! Wink
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MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
MoeHe wrote:
Buzzcocks wrote:
I think they're good, colours variation and less expensive But I think they can't copy the farm world box

The fact they even copyed the box, from the farm world sets Shocked

If someone really had one or two of these in possession, could you please share some pictures. Smile I wonder if these figures have the same size. scratch

Also does schleich know these exists, how do schleich and Papo respond when they are clearly ripped off?
I don't know. I think they ignore it, copies of big brands are everywhere but I think I have the goose, I will send a picture comparate to the Schleich

Thank Buzzcocks, that would be super Smile
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Your welcome, if you need any other tell me

Thank you very much you are amazing. Your pictures are awesome. cheers cheers cheers cheers

Do know what the print on the bottom wrote?
Weight and material wise are the simmilar ?

I think for a reuse it is very good product, the feathers are very well made and detailed.

Would be great if you would allow, that your pictures were put on the TAW for comparison.
Maybe someone on the forum could help write down every release for them.Smile  Pheraps its a  simalar situation like with Maia & Borges in Portugal but know its China Company / Lean Toys.
I will also see if I haven't others figures of this brand because a big shop not far of my house is selling them. And they have a lot of figures, the event made a farm set with copies of collecta figures
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These are not molds sold by Schleich or Papo. These figures are legalized copies under Chinese law which accepts any minimal difference in size or color as sufficient to free these products from accusations of plagiarism. One of the companies that has exhaustively copied this type of figure has been Nayab. Nayab's business is manufacturing for other companies and it is very well established internationally, just look at how the North American Wild Republic has already introduced several Nayab figures into its lines.
However, Nayab is just the tip of the iceberg, this type of copy is common among the most diverse Chinese manufacturers. What happens is that smaller brands, like this Polish one, import directly from these manufacturers, who sell at a very low price, and sell under their own brand name. This happens in many countries, especially targeting customers with lower financial capacity. Brands that feel harmed easily conclude that the wear and tear created by legal actions that lead nowhere and have a significant weight on the companies' budgets, ends up being more financially compromising than the real impact of the competition of these cheaper figures. In addition, many of these companies are still very dependent on the low production costs in their factories in China, which makes them somewhat hostage to the system.
TAW is not a commercial website, just a guide for collectors and nothing can avoid us from entering these brands and figures there. Though, there's no sense that we list the same copies sold under hundreds of different brand names. You can find some exceptions but it is when we don't know they are copies or the brand is relevant for the collecting community. Take as example the Animal Paradise or Animal World lines, both from Chinese manufacturers which copy major brands. They're relatively known among us and we are not listing them.
About the quality, it is inferior to the original model, the joints are often not as accurately assembled, painting layout tends to be slightly simpler but as a whole, they feel very good and work as valid collectibles. They use now a dense pvc and the painting is not as simplistic as in the past. I have myself a copies of Mojö Fun, Science and Nature, Schleich, but I have the originals of these models and I don't recomend them to anyone, especially when they are supposed to be used as toys because I don't know if they are safety tested, I have no idea about the quality of the materials, especially the sort of paint it is used. Of course I don't judge who buys them, I have myself a few as I mentioned.
If you want them to complement your Scleich collection. Just be aware they are not Schleich, it is not the same when you saw the same mold of the Schleich mountain goat being sold by Safar, it is a different business. As a complement for Schleich, they only work as cheap copycats.

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Roger wrote:
These are not molds sold by Schleich or Papo. These figures are legalized copies under Chinese law which accepts any minimal difference in size or color as sufficient to free these products from accusations of plagiarism. One of the companies that has exhaustively copied this type of figure has been Nayab. Nayab's business is manufacturing for other companies and it is very well established internationally, just look at how the North American Wild Republic has already introduced several Nayab figures into its lines.
However, Nayab is just the tip of the iceberg, this type of copy is common among the most diverse Chinese manufacturers. What happens is that smaller brands, like this Polish one, import directly from these manufacturers, who sell at a very low price, and sell under their own brand name. This happens in many countries, especially targeting customers with lower financial capacity. Brands that feel harmed easily conclude that the wear and tear created by legal actions that lead nowhere and have a significant weight on the companies' budgets, ends up being more financially compromising than the real impact of the competition of these cheaper figures. In addition, many of these companies are still very dependent on the low production costs in their factories in China, which makes them somewhat hostage to the system.
TAW is not a commercial website, just a guide for collectors and nothing can avoid us from entering these brands and figures there. Though, there's no sense that we list the same copies sold under hundreds of different brand names. You can find some exceptions but it is when we don't know they are copies or the brand is relevant for the collecting community. Take as example the Animal Paradise or Animal World lines, both from Chinese manufacturers which copy major brands. They're relatively known among us and we are not listing them.
About the quality, it is inferior to the original model, the joints are often not as accurately assembled, painting layout tends to be slightly simpler but as a whole, they feel very good and work as valid collectibles. They use now a dense pvc and the painting is not as simplistic as in the past. I have myself a copies of Mojö Fun, Science and Nature, Schleich, but I have the originals of these models and I don't recomend them to anyone, especially when they are supposed to be used as toys because I don't know if they are safety tested, I have no idea about the quality of the materials, especially the sort of paint it is used. Of course I don't judge who buys them, I have myself a few as I mentioned.
If you want them to complement your Scleich collection. Just be aware they are not Schleich, it is not the same when you saw the same mold of the Schleich mountain goat being sold by Safar, it is a different business. As a complement for Schleich, they only work as cheap copycats.


Thank you Roger, very interesting. study study study study study

The Back up information is very on top:!(o)):

I didn't know that China has it's own law, when it comes to copies. Over there, there is everything different. Suspect
How does the world wide market/ the big companies react, wonder how these sell in comparison to the other release like Papo/Schleich.. .

I know this aren't schleich and personally I don't have the space, my already possessioned animals would love to get more space on their own in my shelves Laughing
Before getting these I would probably start collecting Maia & Borges, but the space restriction isn't gone Wink

Personally I think it is a nice topic, it depends also really on the figure, even schleich has some in their normal lineup which sometimes look like rubbish,affraid but thats more of a personal perspective, comparison even of plagiarismed copies is one of the fun aspects while collecting Smile

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I have seen that also on Tedi. I think the same like the other Tedi figures. Schleich sold the molds and rights after years

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widukind wrote:
I have seen that also on Tedi. I think the same like the other Tedi figures. Schleich sold the molds and rights after years

I guess you are right
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