Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?

Hello dear collector friends,
I got some new animal figurines, I was told they are Plaho/Marolin. Since most models of Plaho I still know from my childhood and now they do not. The Giant turtle and the American buffalo would be of Plaho or Marolin. I wanted to ask you, perhaps you know, whether the two Elephants models are of Plaho/MAROLIN or which manufacturer?
Many thanks to you.
Giant turtle:
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American buffalo:
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The two Elephant models:
Number one...
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...and number two
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BG

oh they are really lovely Ralf, congratulations I can't help you identify the elephants though

Your English is very, very good, - of course we understand you !!!!

I am no expert, but the Turtle is from VEB-Plaho, that is for sure.
And the elafants are not, - but you know that already
For those who don`t the Plaho elefants look like this

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Yours are of a better quality, I am sure somebody knows what they are.

I THINK the bison is the large one from Plaho, here is mine * BISON *

Great photoes

Thanks Harriet and Susanne :)

I know the "old" elephant from Plaho and these I have already very long also, but I've got these other two as Plaho / MAROLIN.
That made me a bit puzzled, because I've never seen this before from Plaho.
Especially notable was the all Plaho / MAROLIN-animal models are made ​​with a two-part form, these two elephants have to the ears to form a third part. So there is no Plaho elephants?

Here still a size comparison with the "known" Elephants of Plaho:
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BG

Whatever they are, they are beautyful, well sculptured elefants

I like them a lot

Ralf, very nice animals. I think, the turtle is Plaho or Marolin and i believe, the american buffalo too. But the elephants i never see. You can ask Plahotiere, he made a catalogue.

Great photos of everything! Thanks for posting, the combined photos of all of the elephants is fantastic.

Great new models Ralf!
It is not easy sometimes...
The giant turtle was made by VEB Plaho, but this company took over Marolin, and before Marolin took over Lineol...
So the mould can be from one of them, mostly Lineol in the best models.
I recognize one of the elephant models to be one model of Domplast, which was a ??German manufacturer from the 1950's and 1960's, but they have common models to, and i really don't know, which one took the model from who...
I just had it in my hand stonight, as i re-arranged my vitrines, and came to the one-coloured items of the old German brands...

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Afterwards i saw that it was different to the model you showed, but it has similarities...
They are for sure no VEB Plaho's, as their range was limited...
so maybe a copy of another German brand...

Hello together,

the turtle and the buffalo was made by Marolin, the elephants ? maybe Domplast ... (I am not really sure)

A catalogue of the Plaho animals you can get on my side www.plahotiere.tberg.de as still as some figurines.

Aaaargh

It seems that I have been well fooled. I bought the turtle and the bison for being VEB Plaho

Well, that is maybe ok, but I don`t like to be a fool. And now I have to revise a chunk of my web-site

SUSANNE wrote:

Aaaargh

It seems that I have been well fooled. I bought the turtle and the bison for being VEB Plaho

Well, that is maybe ok, but I don`t like to be a fool. And now I have to revise a chunk of my web-site

Susanne, i think it was not a intent. I also dont know, which GDR animals are VEB Plaho and which Marolin. Same time, same country. And i think, it wasnt ever right written of the paper in the package (it was Marolin, but written was Plaho). But i cant remember this. And if you dont have this small paper, everybody dont konw this really right, i am too. After 1991 you became all GDR animals without package by Karstadt, and so comes the mistakes. I sale also my GDR animals as VEB Plaho, that is the manufacture that i remember. By Marolin i heared 2009, and than i remeber me a lttle bit.

Ohhh, - Thankyou, you do me many favours today, - now I am happy again...

So I don`t need to re-make my web-site, but perhaps write a comment at the top ?

SUSANNE wrote:

Ohhh, - Thankyou, you do me many favours today, - now I am happy again...

So I don`t need to re-make my web-site, but perhaps write a comment at the top ?

What you mean, which top??

Ohh, soory, - I mean the top of the pages

Hi everybody...

To the history of the VEB Plaho (plastic and wood).

The company was founded from Richard Mahr (about 1900). Cradle figures from mass (Marolin) were produced. One began with the plastic revolution with the production to plastic animals. Lineol went bankrupt, Mahr bought up many figures of it. In 1970 the company, like most in the GDR, was expropriated. Then the company was called VEB Marolin plastic. Then the company was renamed as VEB Plaho BT8 (company part eight) and became a part of the VEB Plaho. Then the company was completely integrated to the VEB Plaho. After the case of the wall in Germany, the former owners, namely the family Mahr got back her property. Ruined and many figures broken. Today, therefore, some are so expensive. The communists hardly repaired what was defective, was just defective.
The company became again the Mahr GmbH and produced some time still the plastic figures (Marolin).

The two figures "giant turtle/tortoise" and "buffalo" were made after 1990...(after the case of the german wall).
So is it correct, if some say, they are not from VEB Plaho.

some shocking things all figures are from Marolin Marolin and VEB Plaho are the same Marolin and VEB Plaho are different factories VEB Plaho BT8 and Marolin are the same VEB Plaho made not new figures all known figures were made from Marolin ...and so on... ...only playing with words...

[quote="effelderboy"]Hi everybody...

To the history of the VEB Plaho (plastic and wood).

Thank you for the informations!! I dont know this and it is very interesting!!!

Thankyou, Thomas

No wonder I can`t find out what is really what, - I think I will use Torsten`s catalogue and print out what you wrote here...and then on a long, dark winter evening I will try to concentrate..auch! auch!

It is not so heavy...
You must think: The real owner of Marolin was and is Richard Mahr (and his family). Only 20 years in the GDR were the owners "the peoples of east germany" . And in this time the figures were the same, only the name of the factory was VEB Plaho. After 1990 the name Marolin come back and the old owner also.

effelderboy wrote:

It is not so heavy...
You must think: The real owner of Marolin was and is Richard Mahr (and his family). Only 20 years in the GDR were the owners "the peoples of east germany" . And in this time the figures were the same, only the name of the factory was VEB Plaho. After 1990 the name Marolin come back and the old owner also.

Ahhh
Now I understand

Looking at it in that way, it really was "only" 20 yers.
In my mind it seems like always

Here some fotos of packages...

...a very very old package...one of the first...(Richard Mahr - Marolin Plastic)

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...a very old package...

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...a old package (VEB Marolin Plastic) from the expropriation time...

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...from VEB Plaho, the Expropriation was completed...

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...and after 1990 "Marolin"...

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That is fantastic !!!

What a collection

Thanks for sharing

We have to be greatfull having a member as Thomas here, who can explain this history of the company.
I knew already, since i was collecting them already for a while, and had the catalogue which was mentioned before...
The GDR or DDR times made it complicated...
The fact that the gouvernment named it "VEB" , which means VolksEigener Betrieb, which means Company of the people is a statement which came out of the communistic sights of the gouvernment at that time...
Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state...
Thankfully, the original situation was restored after the fall of the wall...
Again, because the Mahr(Marolin) company bought a lot of the Lineol moulds in the past, because of the bankruptcy of the Lineol company, they were able and allowed to make the same models, only in plastic, instead of composition.

At first many thanks dear collector friends !

Willy, you're right and thanks to Thomas.
It was hard (or impossible?) e.g. the dinosaurs get in the GDR, as they were intended for export to foreign countries much .... I've seen this in my childhood never to buy.

I think the Lineol animal models have been used only as a template for its own models, this are, I think, a little smaller.
Were these from Julius Weigelt new formed following the example of the Lineol models?
How Thomas said, produces and sells MAROLIN the models after to the communist era, but many of the Plaho models yet to be offered very low prices (e.g. ebay...) that MAROLIN has now stopped production and now sells theirs remainders still.... this is a great pity !

By the way I think has Willy sure right, the Elephants are certainly from Domplast, at least the Asian Elephant (perhaps has something to big ears), the Elephant of Willy´s picture could be the Baby...or? I saw this at ebay as white model by Domplast.
BG

Thanks Willy...

"...Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state..."
Thatswhy I´m not very proud of the VEB and also VEB Plaho...

The VEB Plaho don´t made new things, they destroyed good factories. The quality and the painting were always worse. What broke, was not repaired. The factory was moved to wear.

effelderboy wrote:

Thanks Willy...

"...Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state..."
Thatswhy I´m not very proud of the VEB and also VEB Plaho...

The VEB Plaho don´t made new things, they destroyed good factories. The quality and the painting were always worse. What broke, was not repaired. The factory was moved to wear.

But they also produceed for west germany. I remember, our friends found the animals in a Quelle- catalogue.