CollectA 2012 Photos: White Lion Family

Here are the white lion models

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As a White Lion fan I have to say that I like the male one and the cubs very much but the female is strange...
I need more pics of them.

Welll I´m not sure if i like them...

Wonderful lions!! A white lion is the symbol of my hometown (ice) hockey team.

I like them, the artificial shading is less obvious than on regular lion family.

Personally, I do not agree at all, matter of taste!

lucky luke wrote:

...matter of taste

Of course it is, that's the only thing we all agree

Nice figures, i love white lions, I still have to get Papo's but these are also good!

i don't like White Lions although it's less an unethical breeding than white tigers are.
But toys of them are even more unnecessary.
But because of the missing shading, one has at least nice candidates for repaint actions:D

Although i am not a fan of white lions or white tigers, as they are only bred and kept alive for human pleasure, i like these ones, as they have a better colouration then in other brands.
The colour isn't pure white, and this is better in these models.
The white colour makes these models a little bit less then they really are, but ok, a 7 from me.

LEONES BLANCOS AYAYAYAYAYAYAYYYYYY

PeGe wrote:

But toys of them are even more unnecessary.

children fall in love with magical white lion or tiger toys, and then want to see real animals, or as adults have fond memories of their toys, which helps create a demand for unethical breeding.
but fact is, most companies are motivated by sales numbers, not ethics, and such toys are popular.

i like the molds a lot, but even ethical considerations aside, i think they're sort of odd looking in white. it looks like they are yellow figures painted white.

I think I will only get the Male and cubs because I just hate that female.

I keep the same opinion I already gave about Papo white lions! I don't like and don't collect this kind of figures because of the reasons that Willy, P and Carolynn already told here. It is always tempting for a brand to pick an already done mould and give it a different painting. It is cheap for the brand and multiply the number of figures sold, mainly a white creature of a such popular animal. :)
I know a lot of members here love white lions, they are beautiful indeed and I like CollectA figures but I'll not contribute to the popularity of this figures. I don't have any white lion or tiger in my collection! :)
I also think that the painting doesn't look realistic even it looks not as white as Papo figures! :)
Thanks for showing Numaan! There's nothing wrong in collecting them since I know people do it because they are beautiful and not because people agree with humans are making with these creatures!

Especially the male looks like a statue in front of a barock building. But think I will buy them, too (as I already did with the Papo ones).

Roger wrote:

I keep the same opinion I already gave about Papo white lions! I don't like and don't collect this kind of figures because of the reasons that Willy, P and Carolynn already told here. It is always tempting for a brand to pick an already done mould and give it a different painting. It is cheap for the brand and multiply the number of figures sold, mainly a white creature of a such popular animal. :)
I know a lot of members here love white lions, they are beautiful indeed and I like CollectA figures but I'll not contribute to the popularity of this figures. I don't have any white lion or tiger in my collection! :)
I also think that the painting doesn't look realistic even it looks not as white as Papo figures! :)
Thanks for showing Numaan! There's nothing wrong in collecting them since I know people do it because they are beautiful and not because people agree with humans are making with these creatures!

Same here... No matter how beautiful they are - I prefer whatever Mother Nature sees as right to exist.

So as far as I've read on line, white lions and white tigers are a natural occuring species(Although not as common) in nature. Yes, they are still bred in captivity(For man's delight, as W stated). So I see a lot of members are against their breeding, than why collect figures of man made breeds of horses, cattle, dogs, pigs, cats, rabbits, etc. which are made for man's delight? Kindly, explain the difference? Because I really don't understand the logic?

White lion usually is a very light brown with white. Collecta white lion is quite well presenting. Personally I don't think I will buy it.

baltimore zoo wrote:

So as far as I've read on line, white lions and white tigers are a natural occuring species(Although not as common) in nature. Yes, they are still bred in captivity(For man's delight, as W stated). So I see a lot of members are against their breeding, than why collect figures of man made breeds of horses, cattle, dogs, pigs, cats, rabbits, etc. which are made for man's delight? Kindly, explain the difference? Because I really don't understand the logic?

Well Balti, horses and the other animals you mentioned, are animals, that were bred in special forms, shapes and so on from wild animals, so that they would be usefull for us as possible.
The white tigers and lions do occur naturally, but would have been extinct as a WILD animal, so not domesticated, if we people would not have kept them alive with very bad interbreeding, with the result, that the populations in zoo's are many gene defects, with a kind of down-syndrom effects...
So that is the main difference, which is nothing new to you either i guess...

But ok, i do collect white tigers and lions to, but because i want to have the models, and not because i like them so much...

baltimore zoo wrote:

So as far as I've read on line, white lions and white tigers are a natural occuring species(Although not as common) in nature. Yes, they are still bred in captivity(For man's delight, as W stated). So I see a lot of members are against their breeding, than why collect figures of man made breeds of horses, cattle, dogs, pigs, cats, rabbits, etc. which are made for man's delight? Kindly, explain the difference? Because I really don't understand the logic?

That's a very good question, Balti. I thought about it too. See, I collect melanistic leopards and jaguars (AKA black panthers) but refuse to collect white tigers and lions. Why? Because as I and other members mentioned already, Evolution favors melanism in certain species (black panthers) but rejects it in other ones (lions and tigers) because such genes are a disadvantage for survival in the wild. Now, breeding a wild species with the shallow intention to create beauty only, regardless of nature's "choice", is unethical. Besides, there are LOTS of "natural occurings" in different animals in the wild; all kinds of mutations and color variations (albinos and the like) - doesn't mean humans should breed and promote it nor factories should produce "freaky figures" for us, collectors.

Regarding man-made breeds of horses and dogs, etc. - these are already a different category. You and me collect Wildlife - those are farm animals that are irrelevant for my and your interest. But in my opinion, these man-made breeds have at least a use - not just a "show off" for making money.

I can only agree with you Gabe!
Actually it is the same in my field, aquariumfish.
Specially in Asia, they tend to breed the most horrible forms of coldwater and tropical fish, so again show-offs there, and no function at all.
Also there, i prefer the natural and much more beautifull animals!

By the side, i know the history of the white tigers and lions from A-Z...
The white tiger came from India , but today, there is not one white tiger in the world with pure Bengal tiger blood, because the Siberian was bred in.
In between there were many many failures, and animals born, that not even really looked like a proper tiger.
But ok, people wanted to keep this variation, so here we are today...
In South-Africa, white lions are specially bred for hunting purposes, which makes me even more angry.
The cubs are brought up to an age of about 4 years, and then shot by one or the other rich person, that likes to kill a white lion with a gun, what a man!

By the way, only black leopards should be called black panthers, even normal leopards had the name panthers to in the far past.
When is was very young, i never(and not many people at all) used the name leopard, only panther...
But even in Florida, they call the puma the Florida panther strangely enough...

For some horrible facts and pics, check this:
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for same background concerning the genes and relationship:
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White lions were at least bred with regular coloured animals of the same subspecies to outspread the genes , but this seem to have ended:
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the reasons?
-money
-show animals
-need for large manes ("Zoo-Mix-Lion-Problem")
-...
Those white cats also have a cheesy "mythical" status in scenes which are also interested in fantasy, dragons and whatever. Also common people still think of them being "special", or "rare" ore even "more beautiful". so A Circus or a toy brand can attract some further interested people.
This even leads to curious situations as purebred african lion subspecies are not interesting for other zoos and people don't want to see light-maned lion males.

smithyboy wrote:

I think I will only get the Male and cubs because I just hate that female.

I totally agree with you,Smithyboy,the female is UGLY!!
But apart from that,I love White Lions,so I'll probably get the other 3 guys.

If there is something that really annoys me is this woman, Linda Tucker, and her organization to save the "Living Legends" (white lions) by even trying to persuade the global scientific community to recognize the white lion as a distinct sub-species! How ignorant!

Here is her official web site:
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Gabe wrote:

If there is something that really annoys me is this woman, Linda Tucker, and her organization to save the "Living Legends" (white lions) by even trying to persuade the global scientific community to recognize the white lion as a distinct sub-species! How ignorant!

Here is her official web site:
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Right!
I can't stand that "spiritual" humanizing-thing.
But this is another problem, so back to Lady Tucker's other Problem:
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The Genetic Marker that makes White Lions unique has not yet been identified by science.
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The White Lions are currently classified under the general species classification Panthera leo, although this is likely to change after the genetic research undertaken by the Global White Lion Protection Trust reveals important reasons for sub-speciation of this rare phenotype."

So no Panthera leo?
What else? Mus musculus?
She doesn't seem to be able to work with Classification. But at least the first white lions were P.l.krugeri until they were bred to other subspecies!? And now, inbreeding and mixing shall lead to such an abuse of scientific ideas?