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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Jul 29, 2014 7:32 pm

Ohhhh! It is beautyful !!!! And look at that saddle and tack !  cheers 

I have no idea where it comes from, but both of those horses are beautyful  Applause 

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I don´t know too, but really nice horse Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy

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I don't mean to question you when you've got the thing in your possession...but it looks like an Airfix kit horse? Are you sure it's composition...does it have a join mark, the Airfix horses are two halves with a glued-on mane and fringe, the reins being cut by the modeller from styrene sheet? The ammo pouches make it look like maybe the Bengal lancer's equipment?

Oops, you might be right it not being composition. I tapped it with a fingernail and it actually feels like plastic. But there are no signs of two halves glued together and I could not find it on the airfix page you provided. I have an older airfix bengal lancer in my collection, but that is much bigger and clearly from a kit. Here it is
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyThu Jul 31, 2014 3:21 am

The Bengal lancer came in two sizes, yours is the BIG (1:16th scale) one! The mane is not right for the small lancer though (which was the same as yours but in 1:32).

I think it is one of the kit horses, however if it's been filled and sanded (and textured?) the join line won't be obvious...Airfix did maybe a dozen or so (without going and looking it up) mostly Napoleonic or other 'historical' subjects, Tamiya did several WWII ones; a German general-service wagon team and a field kitchen, along a reconnaissance scout (I think) and Heller may have produced one or two (I know they did a Donkey in French North African service!).

We need someone who knows his or her military horse furniture!!! Rolling Eyes

[I started a page for Airfix the other day, please put a shot of the lancer's Horse there! Applause ]

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PostSubject: Some unknown vintage UK plastic farm animals   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 03, 2014 6:08 pm

I think all of the unknowns in the photos here (along with some 'knowns' for comparison) were UK vintage (probably 1955-59) made.
None are marked, and they are copies, or 'obviously inspired by' UK makes.

1) Bulls:

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Top row are three 'knowns':
Top left: Britains/Herald (early version in white plastic. This figure seen more often in later incarnation as a Jersey)
Top centre: Cherilea bull, marked and well known, I think first made 1960/61
Top right: Lead T&B/FGT (many later plastic items by FGT and B&S were of previous lead figures, but not all.....)
Bottom row are four 'unknowns':
left: direct copy of the Herald bull
2nd: reversed leg positions variation of Herald bull
3rd: another similar. Possibly Trojan(Shipton) brand?
right: another 'inspired by'. I was told it was FGT when I bought it from well known dealer and expert Adrian Little, but I'd like confirmation/proof.

Apart from FGT and Trojan(Shipton), other companies I think may have made these are Hilco, pre 1960 Cherilea, B&S, or Paramount (Mr Lucas, formerly 'Sacul' brand in lead),
or (getting more complicated) designed by Paramount, but not sold by them, but moulds sold on to B&S.

In the 'Plastic Warrior Special, UK Makers' there is mention of a now unknown, possibly freelance, designer who did stuff for several UK brands, some of which were 'inspired by' Britains and other brands, but always changed a bit, so not to be direct copies. Methinks some of these bulls were by whoever it was.


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Next up are two photos, one of chickens, the other ducks/geese, which I bought on eBay recently.
I thought them interesting because they are plastic copies of old UK made lead poultry by various makers. In both photos, the recent unknown purchase items are on the left, with the original equivalents to the right.

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Top: Unknown copy of FGT cock, centre FGT cock in lead, right FGT cock in plastic.
Middle: Unknown copy of JoHillCo pecking hen, Original lead JoHillCo hen, Plastic copy of it by Reisler, Denmark - close, but not the same as the unknown one.
Bottom: Unknown copy of lead Timpo sitting hen, Original lead Timpo sitting hen

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Top: Unknown copy of (very similar) JoHillCo or FGT walking duck, 2nd JoHillCo lead duck, 3rd FGT lead duck, right FGT plastic duck (they made this in white or brown plastic - I only have a brown one)
Middle: Unknown copy of lead Timpo walking goose, lead Timpo walking goose
Bottom: Unknown swimming duck. FGT plastic swimming duck, the first similar old item I thought of. After doing the photos I remembered another swimming duck, in lead,  which is virtually the same as the unknown one. It was originally made by a small company, Stoddart, which never restarted production after WW2 in 1945, and Timpo (then a new company) bought some of their moulds and produced them, in some cases only until they had better moulds made to replace them. Some boxed sets of lead figures in the early 1950s contained a mix of old Stoddart and new Timpo items.

So, Hugh? Chris? Anyone else? Ideas? Better still, actual evidence?
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 03, 2014 9:34 pm

See my eMail of the other day!!!!

I Was expecting this post and as I scolled down thought "well that middle one is the Cherilea bull"!

Trojan are in the frame for the ex-Timpo's I think?

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See my eMail of the other day!!!!

I Was expecting this post and as I scrolled down thought "well that middle one is the Cherilea bull"!

Trojan are in the frame for the ex-Timpo's I think?

H

I'm starting to think Trojan for some of these, and other unknowns I have, because the list in the PW Trojan Special doesn't correspond to the Speedwell/UNA farm range (so I'm less inclined to agree with PW that Trojan farm were the same as Speedwell & friends farm), but the Trojan list doesn't correspond with all of these either.

I suppose I could say that as there are 4 unknown bulls, there must be 4 unknown farm ranges, so it then is a matter of discovering which ones go with which. Of course they probably won't all be complete ranges, especially any produced by B&S or FGT, which were 'space fillers', for the gaps when they split up as T&B. The 'possibly designed by Paramount' animals known in B&S boxed sets are very different style (much more elegant) than most T&B/B&S/FGT figures.

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 03, 2014 10:19 pm

Paramount are funny because they have the 'same' wild west range as the other reprobates, but sometimes with a degree of originality, also they must have had something to go with those tractors and farm machinery - in both sizes...

The new discovery; BMS has to be in the frame as well, despite probably being a subsidiary of one of the others? (Kentoys/speedwell/Trojan/UNA or VP)

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PostSubject: unknown models   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 10, 2014 6:32 pm

I managed to find these models at a local toy fair and would be grateful for any help with identifying the makers.The little lion has England on the bottom and looks like he's form a circus set.The dogs have no mark on them and the moose is made from hollow hard plastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 10, 2014 7:21 pm

Dogs were given as premiums with Kellogg's cereals, early, probably before the soldiers/cowboys/etc by Crescent. Dogs were made in Germany by DOM (a set of 20), but I think they only did 6 for Kellogg's, the other 3 being a Corgi (ochre colour), Scottie (black), Poodle (white). I have spares of all 3 if you want - PM me.

The lion was also a Kellogg's premium, circus set, this time by Crescent. I have a spare of the (small) elephant on a tub if you want.

No idea about the moose.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 10, 2014 7:31 pm

They are WONDERFUL  cheers 

I am crazy about those doggies Very Happy

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They are WONDERFUL  cheers 

I am crazy about those doggies Very Happy

I have quite a lot of spare doggies if you want, although as Taos started the thread, better wait until know if he wants any (I only have one spare Poodle). PM me.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 10, 2014 8:12 pm

They are great, congrats! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 11, 2014 1:29 pm

Have PMed you.Thanks for all the wonderful info on the models.Susanne I have a spare Dachshund if you are interested.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 17, 2014 5:14 pm

Very nice and interesting figurines

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Aug 17, 2014 5:19 pm

I think the moose is Beton Bergen Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Aliexpress - benma and unknown horses   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 7:59 pm

I was in Aliexpress (maybe most of you know this website: a Chinese website with a lot of things to buy; like a big online Chinese bazar  Laughing ) and I found some interesting horses

First ''Benma'' horses. Anybody heard about it? I searched on the internet and I found a brand but they haven't horses

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They are good done and not so expensive

What is that? An expensive horse with no brand

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The same seller has two other expensive models. They remember me Schleich fjord and Schleich icelandic

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Does anybody known anything about these horses?

This foal looks like the Schleich camargue one

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And this other foal is quite similar to one Safari Ltd. foal

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Other foal for the same seller

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 8:06 pm

I also found this one (maybe the Black Lipizzaner SR edition of MPV?)

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 8:14 pm

And what's about these?

I found all of them except the kanbstrupper horse and the white horse with the hand up

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 8:26 pm

The Fjord and Icelandic are Bullyland Models?? the last link are also all bullyland  Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 8:28 pm

Have you the reference of the knabstrupper horse and the white horse hand up of the last link? I haven't

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 9:52 pm

The two last ones are Safari ( foals)

The Fjord and Icey are made for Kindertoyz by Bullyland, the brand says Kindertoyz, but it is the same model.

Blip is the brand Blip toys.
The Bullyland Knabstrupper has item no 62623, - the one with the saddle ( hand up ?) is the Arab mare no 62677 Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Aug 18, 2014 10:04 pm

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The two last ones are Safari ( foals)

The Fjord and Icey are made for Kindertoyz by Bullyland, the brand says Kindertoyz, but it is the same model.

Blip is the brand Blip toys.
The Bullyland Knabstrupper  has item no 62623, - the one with the saddle ( hand up ?) is the Arab mare no 62677 Very Happy


Woooow! As we say in Spanish you don't go to bed without learning something Wink

And.. do you have any information about blip?
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Who knows about the brand? of this vampire squid that i got from Lance Very Happy Thanks

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he is marked with 1997 DOS- is this the brand? I have never heard of that before

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyThu Aug 28, 2014 1:18 am

I can't help you Andreas but that's interesting! Very Happy

I also have a question, I received this composition brand from PeGe (philipp), sometime ago, I don't know the brand. I'm calling it Durolin but that's just a guess. Does anybody knows it for sure? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyFri Aug 29, 2014 12:17 am

@Roger: I'm really sorry Crying or Very sad I don't know much about vintage brands, some of their figures were older than me Surprised Laughing

But maybe someone knows something about the huge polar bear?:
(It is not my photo and collection, but I'm allowed to post it Wink)
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I dont have a clue about the polar bear.
It 's very big indeed.
Now i am curious.

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PostSubject: What is this black donkey?   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Sep 24, 2014 6:12 pm

A person on the Model Horse Blab posted this photo she took of an unknown plastic donkey.

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Anyone know the brand? When it was made? Is it rare? I'd love to get my hands on one (or more Wink ). Very Happy

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No idea:)

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Ohhhh! Lovely drunken

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He's terribly cute. I don't know anything though.

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PostSubject: Vintage composition farm animals. Brand?    Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Oct 19, 2014 3:52 pm

A recent buy at a general flea market. Anyone know the brand?      
I think not the usual Elastolin or Lineol.
Starlux plastic farm lady included in photo to show size.

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PostSubject: Help with identification   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Oct 19, 2014 6:18 pm

Bought these at local Toy fair.The first picture-the red/white cow is unmarked and I think the hare is by Cherilea
The second picture is a little hollow cast bulldog with a kennel,both unmarked and not sure they even beow together but bought them as a set as the looked good together!!!
Picture three- all hollow cast-the brown cow is by Britains,the black sow only has England marked on it and the sheep is unmarked.
Picture four-the cows are unmarked but the little calf has England marked on it.

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Congrats! Sorry I can't help.

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Oct 19, 2014 6:42 pm

1) Cow = Timpo, Hare = Cherilea
2) Bulldog + Kennel = John Hill Co.
3) Sheep = The 'Sarsen's Lamb'. You hit the jackpot on this one! Made by Britains for a promotion by Sarsen's mint sauce & vinegar in 1932. Worth at least £30, maybe £50 on a good day.
Black pig = Crescent, Brown cow = Britains
4) Black cattle = Sad to admit, but I don't know. Maybe Barrett & Sons, F.G. Taylor, Speedwell or Trojan.
As you have 2 of them, I'd like one if ever we do a swap of stuff.
Brown calf = Timpo
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Interesting stuff:)

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Oct 20, 2014 2:58 am

The cow is listed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as an Elastolin, but I expect it could easily be mislabeled. The others I've even less clue of - sorry to be so vague.

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Oct 20, 2014 9:41 am

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The cow is listed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as an Elastolin, but I expect it could easily be mislabeled. The others I've even less clue of - sorry to be so vague.

I can only say that in my Elastolin reference book, which includes a reproduction of their 1939-40 catalogue, the grazing cow illustration isn't this one - legs clearly in different positions. Of course, this doesn't rule out the possibility that the cow I've just bought might be a different, maybe post-war, Elastolin cow.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Oct 20, 2014 1:23 pm

Thanks for all the great info Dave!I will put the black cow on hold for you.
With regards to the special edition lamb-all I can say is WOW!the ear is missing on the other side but otherwise its in good nick and cost me £1!! bounce bounce Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Oct 20, 2014 9:00 pm

The lady feeding poultry is from Starux, - or a very precise copy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyMon Oct 20, 2014 9:25 pm

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The lady feeding poultry is from Starux, - or a very precise copy Very Happy

I said she is Starlux. As a well known figure, she is in the photo to show the size of the compo animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Oct 29, 2014 8:32 pm

I wish I could actually handle them ... it's the best way to find out if they are copies.

However, the horse, cow and pig appear to be 1950's Hausser Elastolin. See the horse and cow in the 1954 catalogue section in Vintage Catalogues on this forum.

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Oct 29, 2014 8:43 pm

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I wish I could actually handle them ... it's the best way to find out if they are copies.

However, the horse, cow and pig appear to be 1950's Hausser Elastolin. See the horse and cow in the 1954 catalogue section in Vintage Catalogues on this forum.

Lesley
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I see the running pig is in 1957, plus horse and cow in 1954 & 1957.

Many thanks. I should have looked there myself, but had forgotten those pages were posted on the forum.

Just the small sheep to identify now then, and the other 3 can now go in with my other Elastolin large scale farm.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyThu Oct 30, 2014 6:08 pm

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Hausser also produced this new-for-the-1950's standing horse. It has the same inset metal ears, and probably the same sculptor, as the grazing specimen.

It did not appear in the catalogues ... Hausser was busy turning over to all-plastic production, and continued to use the pic of the previous standing horse ... but it was just as widely sold as your grazer, and came in  the same range of colours.

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 8:36 pm

Sorry, I can't help with the bears. They look nice Smile

My friend found a nice snake. I think it is some kind of Boa. Does anyone know its brand?
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 8:39 pm

No idea but it looks huge:)

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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptyFri Nov 07, 2014 8:59 pm

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I found this 2 animals today at a flew-market. I see the cangaroo is Preiser Elastolin (yes!!), but which brand is the salamander? He is very big and unmarked.

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Since today i know this salamander is made by 3B scientific ( from Dresden)- many thanks to brontodocus :)

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This picture was in a book I got recently and wondered did anyone know who made the model as its unfamiliar to me.Sorry about the picture quality,it was hard to take without reflection.
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PostSubject: Re: Brand Identification topic   Brand Identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Dec 28, 2014 11:07 pm

I am not expert for prehistoric models but is similar to Safari Ltd Missing Link woolly mammoth adult:
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