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Well here we go then :)
Keeping it short is normally my main objective, but usually it may be a bit longer than expected, okay!

Here is how it all began:
Back in 1976 when I was born my first dinosaur well was  not a dinosaur to some point it was this 1976 Dimetrodon from the brand Imperial:
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As you see it's dated 1976, my birth year xDD You will have to click to enlarge it,to see 1976 printed under the Imperial Logo Wink
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It was probably given to me at birth, I truly can't remember but yeah it probably triggered my future to collect dinosaurs, I also was given a big rubber snake my mother told me, but even that is all way too vague. to even remember hehe :)

From 1980 to about 1995 I collected Chinasaurs & Dinosaurs alike, ya know them everyday rubber and plastic dinosaurs you could buy all over the place, not only dino's but also the odd looking dragons, monsters, snakes, lizards, crocs, snakes, rats, mammals, sharks and gators! You name it, ghost busters toys it all added up to these four boxes:
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Which I have sold to my partner Tyrantqueen and my Sister for her 6 year old son :)

But it is fun to show what these boxed have in them hehe, this was before and during my Dino-Riders collecting days.

Box One:
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Box Two:
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Box Three:
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Box Four:
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Here the Dino-Riders Collection:
Top Row:
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Middle Row:
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Bottom Row
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Complete:
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As you can see my oldest prehistoric reptile, the 1976 Imperial Dimetrodon can also be seen in that collection, and it still gives me many good memories.

Around 1989 when I had a lot of Dino-Riders and many of these Chinasaurs, my Karate Shihan Sir Alan Burdett organized an interview of me and my Dino collection in the Bunbury Mail, which was the biggest Dino collection known in Western Australia of that time, I had 286 Dino's then and yeah I have a picture of this day too:
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And nowadays I collect models from CollectA, Schleich, Papao, Kaiyodo, Colorata and Carnegie/Safari Ltd, these models are very accurate and good Dino models are finally easy to find these days.
AS Growing and taking care of Orchids, I also made a display here or some call a Diorama, well it's not a real diorama but that large Amethyst which I bought @ Grottes Du tarn in France is the center of everything and it lured all my Steggies and that Spino also.
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Here a better closeup :)
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My favorite Dinosaurs are the Stegosaurids which I nickname Steggies, I just love them, as for favorite prehistoric reptile that ever lived the Tylosaurus Proriger which you can see in the bottom row of the Dino-Riders collection as I have the Carnegie/Safari Ltd Tylosaurus Proriger :)

Tyrantqueen also sent me these two beautiful Pliosaurs as a gift of a lifetime friendship, as I have also given her some gifts that were very Dino based, we often give each others things like this, I it's so cool we have the same hobby and yes my friends miracles they do exist, anyways we believe in miracles <3  I love you

She gave me these two the Carnegie/Safarie Ltd Kronosaurus a probably one of the best Kronosaurus mdoels I seen so far and the rare and famous Liopleurodoon from Invicta the monochrome one, these were famous in the late 80's and it's still one of the best sculpted Liopleurodons I ahve seen alongside the Safari Ltd Liopleurodon which can be seen in the Bottomrom of my DR collection also :)
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Rear view:
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And another view of the other side :)
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I have so much MOAR to show you people here, but that part is mainly based on books, as for the Dino's I have forgotten I will edit this post or post them as later forgotten ones hahah  lol!

All pics are clickable to larger ones, so if you have high bandwidth connections feel free to enjoy all my pics at their highest qualities!

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Thanks for showing such impressive collection under a great story! Very Happy
My favourite is surely the Imperial dimetrodon, as you are saying, probably the responsible for a hobby that you enjoy. :)
I think these sea prehistoric reptiles are all very interesting. I am a curious about them although I don't have a single one in my collection. pale
I'm curious to check your opinion about the new tylosaurus by Papo once you are an enthusiast of this creature. study Wink

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Ahhh thanks Roger! cheers cheers cheers As for that 1976 Dimetro yeah he is the cause of my Dino life perhaps, which would make sense, kinda amazed I still have that littleguy, btw the fruit in that bowl are Mango's xD

As for the Papo Tylosaurus , that one I do like, even that it shows a Retro feel to it, I do plan on getting that one, my Partner Tyrantqueen has this Tylo btw, The other Marine reptiles I forgot to make pics of are two Carnegie/Safari Ltd. Mosasauruses from 1991, them green ones, they are pretty old but look very similar to the Papo Tylosaurus as the neck is posed :)


One day I also plan on buying the Shane Foulkes Tylosaurus Proriger Resin and let it be painted by Tyrantqueen as I envy her art skills greatly cheers I love you cheers
Kinda out of teh moenyzz now rofl, oh well this day will surely come and every new item I also plan to post in this thread in the future, unless we have a Recent Acquisitions thread? That might be an idea to make one, if we don't have one :)

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Hi Tylosaurus!! I like your Dinos walking or wondering around Orchids. Dino Rider are interesting too!!

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Hi Tylosaurus!! I like your Dinos walking or wondering around Orchids. Dino Rider are interesting too!!
Thanks ken yeo! cheers Yer a lot of memories those Dino-Riders give me, they kept me away from the bad things.

The idea was a brilliant one too, mixing the old with the new and still they were a very successful toy line of the mid 80's to early 90's. Sadly the series was short lived, naval units were never planned nor made, but everyone wanted Naval units over everything else. Never came oh well, they are still very unique to see even today, they shall always stand out :)

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Hi, Tylo, a wonderful story about your collecting hobby cheers
A great way to meet you !

I am sure this a subject I will go back and study more later, - but at a first glance, I am just crazy about your invicta Liopleurodon Very Happy

Some of your "Chinasaurs" are/were great also, especially I note the frilled lizzards drunken

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Such a impressive collection! Beautiful dinos!:)

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Why thanks guys cheers This place is too good to be true, finally a place that respects people of all sorts, so hard to find these days , really.

Anyhoo here's some other things I'd like to show this place, still lots to order out, so might as well not wait too long, because it might be Christmas sooner than most of us think it will be! santa rendeer right haha xDDD lol!

Let's go shall we!

That UKRD Edaphosaurs has a name , I named him Edward, dunno why but he is one of my favorite Chinasaurs xDDD So I did keep him for that reason :)
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These are the two cute Mosasaurs Tyrantqueen found me on ebay, I bought them both, the left one resembles her the older looking one on the right resembles me, in a way we are always together like this I love you
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The same for that 1985 Imperial Tyrannosaurus Rex which I named Little Rex lol! He is little and he has that cool looking Tail dragging pose, Don't we just love the eighties! Also a nice Clear Quartz Crystal from East Germany Cool
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Here the entire set opposite my bed :)
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That art is what I painted on that PC back in 1996 and yes I still haz it xDDD

Here something special I bought off ebay about amonth ago an Allosaurus hand puppet which I named Rexie xD
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Here Rexie takes on Darth Maul!
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Rexie is surprised to see Tyrantqueen pop up on line! I love you Of course I am there with Rexie! xD
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Rexie types a message back! but he clicked the wrong button xDD
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Rexie is a big fan of Tyrantqueen I love you

My Orchid display has some nice Invicta's also :)
Like these two Mamenchisaurus'
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And this Brachiosaurus! xD
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Anyways that is all for now more to come soon :)
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Nice big collection!! Big congratulations!! cheers cheers cheers

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Nice big collection!! Big congratulations!! cheers cheers cheers
Thanks widukind xDDDDDDD cheers cheers cheers cheers Yeah well it did take a while to make it like this, even I sold them 4 boxes of Chinasaurs, bBox two went to Tyrantqueen btw I love you the other three, Boxes 1, 3 and 4 went to my sister for her 6 year old son :)

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Wow you have a big, awesome collection. Makes mine look like a itty bitty one!! Congrats on making the paper too!!
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Wow you have a big, awesome collection. Makes mine look like a itty bitty one!! Congrats on making the paper too!!
Many thanks Katty xD That were thye days some say as the news article went :)

One day I do plan to expand my collection with the best and most up to date resin of the Tylosaurus proriger from Shane Foulkes:
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It's simply brilliant looking and it ain't small either the scale is 1:15 size is 43 inches Cool

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The two mosasaurs are cute I love you

I like that chinasaur Edaphosaurus, very good looking for a chinasaur XD Is he missing a toe from his front foot?
It's actually made by a company called Dor Mei Cool It's kinda funny how it's labelled as an Edaphosaurus, it looks more like a Dimetrodon- I thought Edaphosaurus had a tiny tiny head?
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The two mosasaurs are cute I love you

I like that chinasaur Edaphosaurus, very good looking for a chinasaur XD Is he missing a toe from his front foot?
It's actually made by a company called Dor Mei Cool It's kinda funny how it's labelled as an Edaphosaurus, it looks more like a Dimetrodon- I thought Edaphosaurus had a tiny tiny head?
Yaps it's missing toe is a battle scar xDDDDDDDD lol!

But yer Dor Mei I see, it does say Dor Mei & UKRD on his belly so I thought either would be the same xDDD Anyways thanks for your reply my love [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I love you [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I love you [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Anyhoo I'll post some of my books tomorrow :) the other part of my Dino collection xDDD

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Wow you have a big, awesome collection. Makes mine look like a itty bitty one!! Congrats on making the paper too!!
Many thanks Katty xD That were thye days some say as the news article went :)

One day I do plan to expand my collection with the best and most up to date resin of the Tylosaurus proriger from Shane Foulkes:
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It's simply brilliant looking and it ain't small either the scale is 1:15 size is 43 inches Cool

What a beauty!! cheers cheers cheers

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Wow that's an awesome and impressive collection you have Tylo!! Shocked cheers

Your Orchids are beautiful.

Shane Foulkes' Tylosaurus is completely breathtaking drunken

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Great collection! Congratulations! cheers cheers cheers

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Many thanks widukind, HKHollinstone & ana cheers cheers cheers

Martin Garret shall be the artist for the Shane Foulkes Tylosaurus proriger btw, anyways I do have some saving up to do first, but yer this is one resin I am not gonna leave behind Cool

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It,s the best Tylosaurus which I did see! cheers cheers cheers cheers

B.T.W. can You talk more about this brand? scratch study

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It,s the best Tylosaurus which I did see! cheers cheers cheers cheers

B.T.W. can You talk more about this brand? scratch study
Sure: Shane Foulkes is a designer that makes resins of the utmost highest qualities when it comes to acuracy, details and realism, this is by far the best place to btain such beautiful resins, amognst many others:
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And here the Tylo I plan on getting :)
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"With its 15 meter long body and elongated jaws filled with sharp teeth, this Cretaceous carnivore embodies the ancient human terror of the "sea monster". Tylosaurus has enjoyed a fair bit of attention in popular media, but never before has such a fine example of this creature been available for the marine reptile enthusiast. Sculpted in the breathtaking detail that Shane Foulkes is known for, this model kit makes for an outstanding display in any home or office exhibit.

1:15 Scale
43" Length"

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It,s the best Tylosaurus which I did see! cheers cheers cheers cheers

B.T.W. can You talk more about this brand? scratch study
Sure: Shane Foulkes is a designer that makes resins of the utmost highest qualities when it comes to acuracy, details and realism, this is by far the best place to btain such beautiful resins, amognst many others:
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...Thanks Tylo! b.t.W. and what is your real name? Wink scratch

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The figure is superb and of course the large size also helps to introduce much more detail. But it is too large to put in a shelf, do you have a swimming pool? Laughing
Thanks for sharing the pictures, information and links! :)

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It,s the best Tylosaurus which I did see! cheers cheers cheers cheers

B.T.W. can You talk more about this brand? scratch study
Sure: Shane Foulkes is a designer that makes resins of the utmost highest qualities when it comes to acuracy, details and realism, this is by far the best place to btain such beautiful resins, amognst many others:
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...Thanks Tylo! b.t.W. and what is your real name? Wink scratch
I prefer to keep that private thank you Wink
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The figure is superb and of course the large size also helps to introduce much more detail. But it is too large to put in a shelf, do you have a swimming pool? Laughing
Thanks for sharing the pictures, information and links! :)
This Tylo will go on my Dining Table :)

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Katty wrote:
Wow you have a big, awesome collection. Makes mine look like a itty bitty one!! Congrats on making the paper too!!
Many thanks Katty xD That were thye days some say as the news article went :)

One day I do plan to expand my collection with the best and most up to date resin of the Tylosaurus proriger from Shane Foulkes:
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It's simply brilliant looking and it ain't small either the scale is 1:15 size is 43 inches Cool

What a beauty!! cheers cheers cheers
Yeah you bet these are the best Tylo Resins out there.

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Congratulation Tylo, I like very much eclectic collections Cool And your's is no doubt an eclectic one Very Happy

Good luck for the Shane Foulkes Tylosaurus, it would be bad to miss it What a Face

I missed myself the Geenemodels shunosaurus and it is still a splinter in my collection Sad
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