Species identification topic

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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No idea about their species? Anyone?

No, - but they are beautyful

Roger wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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The first i never saw before and i think it is a lionfish too. And a must have for me and i will add it in my wishlist.

With the blue spots i think it is a occelated Lionfish - twospot turkeyfish.

For the second i am not sure but i think it is a antenna lionfish.

Photographing my AAA figurines for TAi's AAA section, I came across this croc:


When trying to identify it by scrolling through TAi, I came across the Safari Ltd 272729 Nile Crocodile, which is the same model as my AAA croc. But I feel really uncomfortable when it comes to determining non-mammal species, so I'm asking you guys: is my AAA crocodile a Nile crocodile as well?

I got another one for you, this time a lynx!


What do you think it is? Eurasian lynx, Canadian lynx, Iberian lynx or bobcat?? I'm stuck

Seeing his body proportions it could be a hybrid: Eurasian lynx with manul cat (Pallas cat), that's my guess     I'm just kidding of course, he is very cute, it's very nice lynx, quite chubby, maybe in winter fur.
His markings are similar to those of Eurasian lynx, i think. 

Julie, very interesting to know that a mold we always assumed as Safari is also a AAA!
It is very hard to identify crocodile species, we can often see if it is a crocodile, gharial or alligator, the remaining differences are only for experts. Our [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is very good identifying them.
What we do on TAI? When a species is not identifiable, we ask here or include on incertae sedis sections. Though, often, when there's no evidence that it is not a common species of a certain taxa, we introduce it as that common species.
For example, there are several hedgehog species, often, figures are only labeled hedgehog without any species identification, we know these are almost always common hedgehogs, if there's no evidence that is it not a common hedgehog, we introduce it has that species.
With crocs the same, figures that are only identifyed as crocodile and we cannot see anything unusual for a Nile crocodile, we introduce it as that species once it is by far the most common and replicated croc. If someone later identifies it as another species, an American crocodile or anything else, we can always fix it easily.
That lynx is a little different, Eurasian lynxes are the most common in toy shape, though, AAA, as a ODM company, obviously designs them in an ambiguous way to make them fit to different series. Coloring may change with the brand that sells it, if I am not wrong, Mamejo Nature was selling it with North American woodland animals but European companies with European. Often it is mixed among non related animals as we can see on the Italian catalogue where it is together with lions and wolves. I would introduce it as an Eurasian lynx and painting seems to fit it nicely.

widukind wrote:

The first i never saw before and i think it is a lionfish too. And a must have for me and i will add it in my wishlist.

With the blue spots i think it is a occelated Lionfish - twospot turkeyfish.

For the second i am not sure but i think it is a antenna lionfish.

widukind wrote:

The first i never saw before and i think it is a lionfish too. And a must have for me and i will add it in my wishlist.

With the blue spots i think it is a occelated Lionfish - twospot turkeyfish.

For the second i am not sure but i think it is a antenna lionfish.

widukind wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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The first i never saw before and i think it is a lionfish too. And a must have for me and i will add it in my wishlist.

With the blue spots i think it is a occelated Lionfish - twospot turkeyfish.

For the second i am not sure but i think it is a antenna lionfish.

Thanks Andreas, I'll study your suggestions!

Tarunyada wrote:

I got another one for you, this time a lynx!

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What do you think it is? Eurasian lynx, Canadian lynx, Iberian lynx or bobcat?? I'm stuck

That looks like a Hangover lynx to me.

Roger wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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The Brown lion fish is a SCORPAENA PORCUS and the orange one is a PTEROIS ANTENNATA.

Thank you Valérie, I added both species to TAI and included these two to their respective pages according with your help!

Bowhead Whale wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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The Brown lion fish is a SCORPAENA PORCUS and the orange one is a PTEROIS ANTENNATA.

I think the first is a dendrochirus biocellatus. Look the 2 blue spots.

widukind wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

I believe it's a "Cancer pagurus", a crab we call "tourteau" in french.

I think you're right, thanks!
I have now two friendly fish.

Both K&M, first a rubber figure called scorpionfish, 2nd a figure from a venomous set and called lionfish.
Can anyone help me with the exact species name?

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The Brown lion fish is a SCORPAENA PORCUS and the orange one is a PTEROIS ANTENNATA.

I  think the first is a dendrochirus biocellatus. Look the 2 blue spots.

I would tend to agree--the overall body and finnage are more likely a lionfish of some sort than a scorpionfish.

sbell wrote:

widukind wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

The Brown lion fish is a SCORPAENA PORCUS and the orange one is a PTEROIS ANTENNATA.

I think the first is a dendrochirus biocellatus. Look the 2 blue spots.

I would tend to agree--the overall body and finnage are more likely a lionfish of some sort than a scorpionfish.

Once we have two opinions in the same direction, I moved it to Dendrochirus biocellatus. It has fan like pectoral fins and wiskers, together with the spots, I think it works nicely as a twospot lionfish.

So, I made a mistake...

Ana wrote:

His markings are similar to those of Eurasian lynx, i think. 

Thanks, Anna!

Roger wrote:

Julie, very interesting to know that a mold we always assumed as Safari is also a AAA!
It is very hard to identify crocodile species, we can often see if it is a crocodile, gharial or alligator, the remaining differences are only for experts. Our [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is very good identifying them.
What we do on TAI? When a species is not identifiable, we ask here or include on incertae sedis sections. Though, often, when there's no evidence that it is not a common species of a certain taxa, we introduce it as that common species.
For example, there are several hedgehog species, often, figures are only labeled hedgehog without any species identification, we know these are almost always common hedgehogs, if there's no evidence that is it not a common hedgehog, we introduce it has that species.
With crocs the same, figures that are only identifyed as crocodile and we cannot see anything unusual for a Nile crocodile, we introduce it as that species once it is by far the most common and replicated croc. If someone later identifies it as another species, an American crocodile or anything else, we can always fix it easily.
That lynx is a little different, Eurasian lynxes are the most common in toy shape, though, AAA, as a ODM company, obviously designs them in an ambiguous way to make them fit to different series. Coloring may change with the brand that sells it, if I am not wrong, Mamejo Nature was selling it with North American woodland animals but European companies with European. Often it is mixed among non related animals as we can see on the Italian catalogue where it is together with lions and wolves. I would introduce it as an Eurasian lynx and painting seems to fit it nicely.

Thank you, Roger! I do have difficulties with determining specific species on TAi, but most of the time I can work it out thanks to topics like this. The incertae sedis is indeed a handy section for cases like this; I used it multiple times. But I'm a bit of a perfectionist and I always want them to be the 'right' species. I know that's not always possible haha But I keep trying and looking around!

Bloodrayne wrote:

That looks like a Hangover lynx to me.

I agree the lynx doesn't seem to be in his/her feline condition

You're doing a great work Julie and Valerie, as I said before, mistakes are exclusive to those who try to do something and your help is always precious.


While introducing new Kaiyodo geckos from Kiki on TAI, I noticed that we have a PV mislabeled Panther gecko identifyed as a juvenile leopard gecko.
Nothing against it and my knowledge about geckos is under 0. Though doesn't it looks more like some of the subspecies of Coleonyx variegatus?

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Sonoran Banded Gecko
Coleonyx variegatus sonoriensis

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Texas banded gecko

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Desert banded gecko

Roger, this PV gecko isn't mislabelled, it is a Leopard Gecko... Juvenile. And it looks more like a Juvenile leopard Gecko. Head, different colours of the stripes between body and tail. Your three propositions are not as closed.

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Kikimalou wrote:

Roger, this PV gecko isn't mislabelled, it is a Leopard Gecko... Juvenile. And it looks more like a Juvenile leopard Gecko. Head, different colours of the stripes between body and tail. Your three propositions are not as closed.

You're completely right! The websites I use to identify were not showing me any leopard gecko that looked like the PV figure, a quick search for juvenile leopard geckos was also not giving me the desired results. Though, your picture and several other pictures of hatchlings from pet sellers websites, show that it was correctly identified and that my proposals are indeed quite far. I don't have the figure, I said it was mislabeled once it seems it is marked panther gecko or something like that. Thanks Christophe, now it is only missing an identification to the Yowies UK gecko but I suspect it won't be easy.

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Yes,I failed on this one...  maybe a Cadburry gecko?

It could be an odd Tokay gecko or even a Leopard gecko... Who knows?

It's funny that the PV 'panther gecko' couldn't even have been colored like any other eublepharid. It's not like there aren't lots of pretty ones! And I've had a panther/pictus gecko. It didn't look like that.

As for the UK Yowies gecko, I've always had it listed as a Stenodactylus spp. but honestly, I think I just gave up after a while with it and kind of guessed. It really doesn't look much like any gecko I have known.

Roger wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger, this PV gecko isn't mislabelled, it is a Leopard Gecko... Juvenile. And it looks more like a Juvenile leopard Gecko. Head, different colours of the stripes between body and tail. Your three propositions are not as closed.

You're completely right! The websites I use to identify were not showing me any leopard gecko that looked like the PV figure, a quick search for juvenile leopard geckos was also not giving me the desired results. Though, your picture and several other pictures of hatchlings from pet sellers websites, show that it was correctly identified and that my proposals are indeed quite far. I don't have the figure, I said it was mislabeled once it seems it is marked panther gecko or something like that.  Thanks Christophe, now it is only missing an identification to the Yowies UK gecko but I suspect it won't be easy.

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Could it be a TARENTOLA MAURITANICA? You know, the species you English people call "Moorish Gecko" or "Crocodile Gecko"? Look at its skin: it's rough with a lot of nodules. It's also yellowish brown in color and it seems to be represented on a stone wall.

Bowhead Whale wrote:

Roger wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger, this PV gecko isn't mislabelled, it is a Leopard Gecko... Juvenile. And it looks more like a Juvenile leopard Gecko. Head, different colours of the stripes between body and tail. Your three propositions are not as closed.

You're completely right! The websites I use to identify were not showing me any leopard gecko that looked like the PV figure, a quick search for juvenile leopard geckos was also not giving me the desired results. Though, your picture and several other pictures of hatchlings from pet sellers websites, show that it was correctly identified and that my proposals are indeed quite far. I don't have the figure, I said it was mislabeled once it seems it is marked panther gecko or something like that.  Thanks Christophe, now it is only missing an identification to the Yowies UK gecko but I suspect it won't be easy.

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Could it be a TARENTOLA MAURITANICA? You know, the species you English people call "Moorish Gecko" or "Crocodile Gecko"? Look at its skin: it's rough with a lot of nodules. It's also yellowish brown in color and it seems to be represented on a stone wall.

That kind of makes sense--it's not a great representation, but the colors and nodules make sense. Plus, given the wide distribution (it's also called the 'house gecko' for a reason!) it would be familiar enough to warrant a figure.

sbell wrote:

Bowhead Whale wrote:

Could it be a TARENTOLA MAURITANICA? You know, the species you English people call "Moorish Gecko" or "Crocodile Gecko"? Look at its skin: it's rough with a lot of nodules. It's also yellowish brown in color and it seems to be represented on a stone wall.

That kind of makes sense--it's not a great representation, but the colors and nodules make sense. Plus, given the wide distribution (it's also called the 'house gecko' for a reason!) it would be familiar enough to warrant a figure.

Very clever indeed! These Yowies are quite toyish, even more toyish than the real gecko. Actually, in my country, when we talk simply about geckos, we are always referring to TARENTOLA MAURITANICA, that's a very common sight here and I used to play with them as child. A pity that they often get scared and left their tail moving alone. I honestly, also agree with that brilliant conclusion and I'll add it on TAi as a Moorish wall gecko!