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+28donny ong Melekh STORMnl pm64 HKHollinstone MARTINLATIN scot(t) cattlecollector Saarlooswolfhound SeanieP lucky luke Sergey trevok4 animalluvr6 Kikimalou JonasV bojan SUSANNE kgroot alexmotoc PeGe jarda Roger Joan Milelire widukind almisi43 Ana skysthelimit 32 posters |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35787
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:24 am | |
| - SUSANNE wrote:
- I have been googling, but can`t find out why it is called a GRIFFON vulture
We call it a goose-vulture . Is a goose called a griffion in some language ??? Susanne, I think people already helped before but here goes my contribution. All these words have origin in latin, greek or both and griffon is not an exception. Then, in Middle French it turned in grifon and in middle English in griffoun. It means curled, curved or having a hooked nose. In Portugal we call grifo to the griffin but also to this specific vulture. Curiously, we also call grifo to a bristled chicken! I hope my googling was helpful. Now, I need to know why do you call goose vulture to this bird? Isn't a turkey vulture already enough for an aviary? |
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cattlecollector
Country/State : U.S.A Age : 26 Joined : 2012-11-16 Posts : 1610
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:26 am | |
| Amazing bird! It is year of the Griffon Vulture! I don't collect birds.... At least not until I saw this post. |
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scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:12 am | |
| Fantastic! I'm very excited to have both the Schleich and this one. |
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MARTINLATIN
Country/State : CALIFORNIA Age : 46 Joined : 2010-11-11 Posts : 603
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:42 am | |
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HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:04 am | |
| Oh my he's just stunning, his face is perfect! _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:44 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- SUSANNE wrote:
- I have been googling, but can`t find out why it is called a GRIFFON vulture
We call it a goose-vulture . Is a goose called a griffion in some language ??? Susanne, I think people already helped before but here goes my contribution. All these words have origin in latin, greek or both and griffon is not an exception. Then, in Middle French it turned in grifon and in middle English in griffoun. It means curled, curved or having a hooked nose. In Portugal we call grifo to the griffin but also to this specific vulture. Curiously, we also call grifo to a bristled chicken! I hope my googling was helpful. Now, I need to know why do you call goose vulture to this bird? Isn't a turkey vulture already enough for an aviary? Ohh, so that is why Always the expert cresearcher !!!! Thankyou very much Uhh, why we call it a goose vulture? Well, you see, we don`t have a lot of griffons here...and most Danes have potato-noses and straight hair, ...hmmm _________________ SUSANNE |
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pm64
Country/State : Firenze,Italy Age : 60 Joined : 2010-09-27 Posts : 518
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:40 pm | |
| FAAAANTASTIC!!!! Mojo is really working very well though I m very upset because I was expecting so much the crowned crane and secretary bird, I really hope they can be done for 2014, pls Rogerio push hard Mojo in order for this to happen!! Anyway I will reserve a special place in my collection for this masterpiece which in italian is called GRIFONE. |
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almisi43
Country/State : españa Age : 60 Joined : 2011-11-08 Posts : 216
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:58 pm | |
| As I see there curious about this animal deniminacion according to countries, say that in Spain is called "BUITRE LEONADO" populations are distributed in numerous sites of great beauty, certainly recommended. :) :) :)
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STORMnl
Country/State : Nijmegen-Netherlands Age : 64 Joined : 2011-07-24 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:08 pm | |
| Susanne, I think people already helped before but here goes my contribution. All these words have origin in latin, greek or both and griffon is not an exception. Then, in Middle French it turned in grifon and in middle English in griffoun. It means curled, curved or having a hooked nose. In Portugal we call grifo to the griffin but also to this specific vulture. Curiously, we also call grifo to a bristled chicken! I hope my googling was helpful. Now, I need to know why do you call goose vulture to this bird? Isn't a turkey vulture already enough for an aviary?
and in holland we call it a
Griffioen
amazing bird,,i like this one very much
martien
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back from the exercise _________________ |
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Melekh
Country/State : Germany Age : 45 Joined : 2011-12-12 Posts : 191
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:54 pm | |
| In Germany, we also call it a goose vulture :) Gänsegeier |
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Sergey
Country/State : S. - Petersburg, Russia Age : 58 Joined : 2010-09-22 Posts : 2886
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:17 pm | |
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Melekh
Country/State : Germany Age : 45 Joined : 2011-12-12 Posts : 191
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:01 pm | |
| Now, I need to know why do you call goose vulture to this bird? Okay, my lexicon says, it's because of its long neck, like a goose. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35787
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:22 am | |
| Very interesting to know the name in all these languages and why it is also called a goose vulture. An interesting point of this figure is also the pose, thvultures, are associated with a negative reputation. It is so evident that they are often replaced by eagles in biblical and other historical documents. It happens although it is obvious sometimes that those are references to vultures. Mojo, gave to the figure, not the usual "carrion" pose but an imperial pose used to these emblematic eagles! Obviously this is a vigilant pose, commonly observed in historical times, where vultures were a common presence among occidental civilizations.I hope it works to demystify this traditional repugnance among new generations. - SUSANNE wrote:
Uhh, why we call it a goose vulture? Well, you see, we don`t have a lot of griffons here...and most Danes have potato-noses and straight hair, ...hmmm I'm glad there's no mirror in front of me. |
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donny ong
Country/State : indonesia Age : 52 Joined : 2012-10-10 Posts : 2883
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:00 am | |
| OMG! Amazing! Perfect! (o)): (o)): (o)): I love the feathers. I can't even decide which one is better, the emu or this vulture. I think they're both number one. (Is it possible that more than one items are all number one? ) |
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lucky luke
Country/State : FRANCE Saint-Louis Age : 62 Joined : 2010-07-17 Posts : 6285
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:43 am | |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:49 pm | |
| Wow, it's interesting t read name of this bird in many different languages. In Poland the name is not connected with goose neither with griffin/griffon but it sound "sep plowy" what is connected with it's color and means fawn vulture. _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:44 pm | |
| - ana wrote:
- In Poland the name is not connected with goose neither with griffin/griffon but it sound "sep plowy" what is connected with it's color and means fawn vulture.
- Sergey wrote:
- ... In russian this species of vultures named as "white head sip" (in difference from another species "black grif")...
It's rather strange indeed, but both in Russian, Ukrainian and Polish languages this bird isn't called nor grif, neither vulture. It's a "syp" here... The word "syp" is derived from the Russian "sipet'" (to have a frog in throat). Maybe the voice of this bird is somewhat special? Here's a link for Russian-speaking friends: http://earaza.ru/wps/wp-content/uploads/WildBirds12_13.pdf (see page 87). _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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sauroid
Country/State : usa Age : 35 Joined : 2012-01-09 Posts : 1483
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:02 pm | |
| gorgeous finely detailed griffon vulture. i just Mojo! |
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Joan Milelire
Country/State : Catalonia Age : 49 Joined : 2010-11-22 Posts : 1251
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:13 pm | |
| - ana wrote:
- Wow, it's interesting t read name of this bird in many different languages. In Poland the name is not connected with goose neither with griffin/griffon but it sound "sep plowy" what is connected with it's color and means fawn vulture.
In Catalan it's "voltor comú" or simply "voltor" that means just "common vulture". In Spanish is also connected with its color, its name is "buitre leonado" that means "vulture with lion colour". _________________ Joan Likaon Wildlife Models Shop my handmade models: http://bestiari.weebly.com/ my models in facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bestiari.animal.replicas[/center] |
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bojan
Country/State : slovenia Age : 47 Joined : 2012-01-04 Posts : 1023
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:46 pm | |
| Okay in our language it's called "beloglavi jastreb", what means a white-headed vulture! _________________ Bojan
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skysthelimit
Country/State : Serbia Age : 47 Joined : 2010-12-01 Posts : 4072
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:11 pm | |
| - Bojan wrote:
- Okay in our language it's called "beloglavi jastreb", what means a white-headed vulture!
Yes, but "jastreb" and vulture belong to different subfamilies... Here, it's called "Beloglavi sup". Beloglavi means White-headed but what's Sup is a mystery to me _________________ Robert
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bojan
Country/State : slovenia Age : 47 Joined : 2012-01-04 Posts : 1023
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:35 pm | |
| Robert, I don't know what Sup is, but we call it jastreb if it's the species Gyps fulvus is beloglavi jastreb. Pics I took at the Ljubljana ZOO: _________________ Bojan
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35787
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:41 pm | |
| It is really interesting. As it is called sip in Western Asia, it is natural seeing derivations of these words in languages of western Europe. Anyway I also have no idea the origin of the word. Also it is great to see that in some languages the color determines the name what matches perfectly with the scientific name Gyps fulvus once fulvus is a reference to the sandy color. I told previously the name grifo for Portuguese language but here we always use a lot of names to the same species what turns sometimes very confuse to read about them. Here we also call it abutre fouveiro that means also fawn vulture. |
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Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:42 pm | |
| - skysthelimit wrote:
- Here, it's called "Beloglavi sup". Beloglavi means White-headed but what's Sup is a mystery to me
As to the name "sup", "seep", "sep" etc., see my comment above. The reason maybe the same as in Russian/Ukrainian. _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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skysthelimit
Country/State : Serbia Age : 47 Joined : 2010-12-01 Posts : 4072
| Subject: Re: Mojö Fun 2013 Griffon Vulture Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:10 pm | |
| - Bojan wrote:
- Robert, I don't know what Sup is, but we call it jastreb if it's the species Gyps fulvus is beloglavi jastreb
Yes, I know, I didn't say that you made a mistake. It was just strange to me because in our language Jastreb is a name for Goshawk _________________ Robert
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