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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:05 pm

Absolutly phantastic!!

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PostSubject: Paleo's new custom prehistoric mammals(Wednesday Nov.29 2014)    Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:35 pm

I'm now showing some more brontotheres. Although they resemble rhinos, they're  a bit closer to horses. They lived around 56–34 million years ago, until the very close of the Eocene. The first two are from baby rhinos with a forth toe added and reworked heads.

Metatitan relictus   1/35 scale. Inner Mongolia late Eocene 1.5m tall
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Telmatherium validus 1/35 scale. North America late Eocene. Almost identical Metatelmatherium lived in both N. America and  Inner Mongolia. About 1.25m tall

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Aktautitan hippopotamopus  1/35 scale. From Kazakhstan late Eocene. Although it has short legs like Hippopotomus it most likely was not aquatic like Hippos. Made from Mojo Brontotherium 2.5m tall
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Duchesneodus uintensis 1/35 scale. North America late Eocene. Made from Mojo tapir. Body reworked, new head. 1.75m tall.

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Protitan grangeri  1/35 scale. 
Inner Mongolia late Eocene. Schleich tapir with reworked back and new head. 2m tall.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:43 pm

Oh, nice again cyclops cheers cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:43 am

It seems you have a favorite group of animals. By the way, how many Mojö brontotherium have you acquired! Laughing
Many great works again, I hope you keep posting. bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:03 am

Fantastic models, and great species ! cheers

Amazing how you can change well known models into fabulous, rare ones , - you are very talented Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:54 pm

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Fantastic models, and great species ! cheers

Amazing how you can change well known models into fabulous, rare ones , - you are very talented Applause
   Thank you for looking at them. Very Happy

Candiacervus spp. IIa, b and c. 1/9 scale. Made from Papo Chamois body and Collecta stag head.This deer lived on the island of Crete between the late Middle and Late Pleistocene, which means between 0.3 and 0.01 million years ago. There were eight morphotypes ranging in size from 40cm up to 165cm. The two smallest C.ropalophorus and C.spp. IIa, b and c were the smallest with body proportions more like goats with shorter legs. They also had very long simplified antlers. The taxonomy of these deer is in dispute with some placing all eight within Candiacervus  while others have the  three largest in Cervus and the two smallest in Megaloceros (subgenus Candiacervus) and spp. II is rolled into M.ropalophorus. 18 to 20 inches(about 50cm).
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Hoplitomeryx sp.  1/9 to 1/20 scale. Made from unknown body(can someone I.D. it?) and a Safari pronghorn head narrowed in muzzle, new nose and mouth and canines and the eyes were moved forward and down. Lived on the former [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] during the Miocene and the Early Pliocene, now a peninsula[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on the east coast of South Italy. Like Candiacervus this deer like ruminant contains four size groups from tiny to huge. This cervid has horns not antlers, they don't shed just like pronghorns, the largest was the height of an elk but gracile. It shared the island with giant hamsters, giant eagles, and  giant barn owls, along with the last of the European crocodiles.
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Pseudodiplacodon progressum (= Diplacodon elatus)  1/35 scale. Native to North America late Eocene. Made from tapir body with new head. 2m tall.
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Ningxiatherium euryrhinus  1/35 scale. Large elasmothere rhino from the Linxia Basin in northwestern China found in the early Bahean, which corresponds to the early Vallesian (MN 9), ca. 11.1 Ma. Made from Mojo white rhino. 2.2m tall
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Rhinotitan andrewsi  1/35 scale. Inner Mongolian late Eocene brontothere. Made once again from Mojo Brontothere. 2.5m tall
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Megacerops coloradensis 1/35 scale.  North America late Eocene. Modified Papo black rhino. 2.5m tall.
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Ampelomeryx ginsburgi  Palaeomerycidae discovered in Montreal-du-Gers Gers in France. Lived in the Miocene epoch (between 23 and 5 million years ago).Palaeomerycidae were probably probably ancestral to deer and musk deer. Made from sable body and new head.
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Proboscidipparion sinense   A derived, large- to giant-sized form of the three-toed hipparionine horse with a special muzzle structure, might have prefered living in an area with abundant water, same as tapirs which have a similar nasal structure. Found in lower part of the Early Pleistocene Wucheng Loess at Shitougu of Nalesi Town, Dongxiang County, Gansu Province. Their distribution was limited to northern China, but recent studies expanded its distribution as far as to England. Made from Schleich zebras with extra toes and reworked nose. 1.79m tall.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:59 pm

Excellent work! They're amazing! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:56 pm

Wonderful!!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:22 pm

Wow, your work is impressive!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:41 pm

Love to follow this thread with great presentations and reowrked figures. We learn a lot here. cheers
I can't identify the body of the figure you're asking and it is great to see another Mojo brontotherium. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:31 pm

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Love to follow this thread with great presentations and reowrked figures. We learn a lot here. cheers
I can't identify the body of the figure you're asking and it is great to see another Mojo brontotherium. Laughing
   Thank you, I'm still working on more right now. I think the Hoplitomeryx body was from a CollectA waterbuck.
With so few prehistoric mammals made, I have to make do and convert. I was very glad to see Mojo release theirs. The brontothere is pretty good although I don't think the neural spine hump is big enough but adequate.  The head looks more like a rhino, the zygomatic arch is missing, large brotothere heads are very wide. I can do complete figure sculpts but for some reason I find it a challenge to piece together from existing models. Maybe I'm lazy!

   I am now up to 44 custom prehistoric mammal species! Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:57 pm

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Love to follow this thread with great presentations and reowrked figures. We learn a lot here. cheers
I can't identify the body of the figure you're asking and it is great to see another Mojo brontotherium. Laughing
   Thank you, I'm still working on more right now. I think the Hoplitomeryx body was from a CollectA waterbuck.
With so few prehistoric mammals made, I have to make do and convert. I was very glad to see Mojo release theirs. The brontothere is pretty good although I don't think the neural spine hump is big enough but adequate.  The head looks more like a rhino, the zygomatic arch is missing, large brotothere heads are very wide. I can do complete figure sculpts but for some reason I find it a challenge to piece together from existing models. Maybe I'm lazy!

   I am now up to 44 custom prehistoric mammal species! Rolling Eyes

Maybe not lazy, only you have fun studying existing figures and try to figure what to make with them. Sculpting would always give you the chance of making molds and some of us could have the opportunity of having some of your sculptures. Very Happy
Your feedback about Mojo brontothere is interesting, Mojo used to listen collectors opinion. I don't believe they'll replace it soon but there's always the chance of a little update as they made with the moose, Arabian horse, etc.
I don't have this particular Mojo, I have the hyeaenodon, daeodon and smilodon. I think they are in average superior when compared with their prehistoric reptiles.
Hard to see a CollectA waterbuck there, but who knows... scratch Very Happy I hope we'll have the chance of seeing your next projects. bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:14 pm

And just when I thought prehistoric mammals can't get more bizarre...
Great work on your customization, its nice to see some prehistoric mammals in toy form. I especially enjoy your species choice, as they are quite unique- like your Frankentherium Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:22 pm

Here's a skull of Megacerops from the top. Probably wider that I even make them.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:46 pm

Really wide, has CollectA featured it correctly? scratch
Thanks for posting these images, they're useful. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:26 am

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Really wide, has CollectA featured it correctly? scratch
Thanks for posting these images, they're useful. Very Happy

Yes they did pretty good with the head. Better than Mojo. On the other hand the Mojo one fits better with my other figures in scale and it's no trouble to add the zygomatic arches since the head is being modified anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:29 am

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Thank you very much, coming from you I'm glad you like them. I really love your sculpts.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:03 pm

They are wonderful!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:53 pm

Great works indeed! I like especially these funny horse relatives I didn't know them before! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:25 pm

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Great works indeed! I like especially these funny horse relatives I didn't know them before! Very Happy  
   Thank you. Yes, they aren't well known at all. Normally I wouldn't do prehistoric horses since aside from three toes on some and slight head differences there isn't as much variety. So when I saw Proboscidipparion I knew I had to do it.

   Here's my kind of horse! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:31 pm

Here's a non-mammal obviously. 

Mystriosuchus planirostris  1/20 scale. It is an extinct genus of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that lived in the Late Triassic[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (middle Norian[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 215 mya) in Europe. Papo gharial with mods to head; moved nostrils to top of head moved eyes down and enhanced teeth. Also the tall vertical scutes along the tail were reduced to one row. I'm sure there are some things wrong in this conversion, but it looks the part. 4m long.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:23 pm

Thanks for your reply about the CollectA brontotherium. Very Happy
This phytosaur is the non crocodilian animal I know that looks more like my avatar! Laughing
Eh, I love it really! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:16 am

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Great works indeed! I like especially these funny horse relatives I didn't know them before! Very Happy  
   Thank you. Yes, they aren't well known at all. Normally I wouldn't do prehistoric horses since aside from three toes on some and slight head differences there isn't as much variety. So when I saw Proboscidipparion I knew I had to do it.

   Here's my kind of horse! Shocked
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Wow ^^
What animals was this original? Rhino and Croc?
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:49 am

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Great works indeed! I like especially these funny horse relatives I didn't know them before! Very Happy  
   Thank you. Yes, they aren't well known at all. Normally I wouldn't do prehistoric horses since aside from three toes on some and slight head differences there isn't as much variety. So when I saw Proboscidipparion I knew I had to do it.

   Here's my kind of horse! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:00 am

I LOVE both the horses and the "horse" cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:07 pm

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Shocked Shocked Shocked affraid affraid affraid I know this animal, scratch I saw it the last time I drunk too much drunken

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Shocked Shocked Shocked affraid affraid affraid  I know this animal,  scratch  I saw it the last time I drunk too much drunken  

Christophe, - red medicine should be taken with care alien  lol! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:29 pm

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Wow ^^
What animals was this original? Rhino and Croc?

Yeah, it's a Papo croc head and Schleich rhino body. This was fun to make. I think I will put a pink bow on it's tail! And name him Fluffy II!


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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:29 pm

Nice idea for an extraterrestrial animal. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Honestly I find Mr. Flufy absolutly genial. It is the first time I see a crococeront being featured in a fair way. A very artistic conception, many authors that tried to create bizarre fictional creatures were not half as talented. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:06 pm

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 Thanks! Laughing
 
Fluffy I.  Not an original, gaming piece.

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:50 pm

Laughing Fluffy II fits much better my taste! tongue

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PostSubject: Paleo's new custom prehistoric mammals,Sivatherium giganteum,Monday Nov 17 2014   Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:55 pm

Here is my take on Sivatherium giganteum. I'll have to confess this has been on the WIP back burner for awhile. But Robert's figure got me to finish it finally, thank you Robert! Very Happy Very Happy

   Sivatherium giganteum was an extinct gigantic giraffid (up to 2.6m tall) found in the early Pleistocene sediments of the Upper Siwaliks, in the area of Pakistan, India and Nepal. The village Sardhok locality has yielded one of the best collections of Giraffidae from the early Pleistocene of the Siwaliks. The locality belongs to the Pinjor Formation of the Upper Siwaliks (2.6-0.6 Ma). Another species, Sivatherium maurusium, with different shaped ossicones was found in Saharan Africa.

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:19 am

Awesome!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:23 am

Great okapirafes, thanks for sharing Ken. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:27 am

It was a Papo wildebbest Before ??? Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:39 pm

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It was a Papo wildebbest Before ??? Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
Thanks everyone. I had forgotten to say what was modified, yes, it was a Papo wildebeest with bulked up body and new head.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:45 pm

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Here is my take on Sivatherium giganteum. I'll have to confess this has been on the WIP back burner for awhile. But Robert's figure got me to finish it finally, thank you Robert! Very Happy Very Happy

   Sivatherium giganteum was an extinct gigantic giraffid (up to 2.6m tall) found in the early Pleistocene sediments of the Upper Siwaliks, in the area of Pakistan, India and Nepal. The village Sardhok locality has yielded one of the best collections of Giraffidae from the early Pleistocene of the Siwaliks. The locality belongs to the Pinjor Formation of the Upper Siwaliks (2.6-0.6 Ma). Another species, Sivatherium maurusium, with different shaped ossicones was found in Saharan Africa.

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WOW
What an amazing animal.
Which body part are from which animal? It looks like okapi and moose.

Edit: Papo wildebeest, i forgot to read. ^^ But which head?
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:11 pm

Very great work again!! Applause
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:51 pm

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Very great work again!! Applause
   Thank you Robert. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:54 pm

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WOW
What an amazing animal.
Which body part are from which animal? It looks like okapi and moose.

Edit: Papo wildebeest, i forgot to read. ^^ But which head?
   Thank you for the compliment.
   The head is sculpted with Magic-Sculpt epoxy putty.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:00 am

As I mentioned I've tried to catch up with your sculptures and customs- sure enough there were many I missed including some old ones like an impressive Diplodocus custom and a Gastonia (happily the toy companies have finally gotten around to this one!).

In this topic one of my favorites has to be, for some reason, Protitan grangeri. In the photo it has that bit of personality to its expression that you feel when looking at a living individual animal. I also learned something unexpected, with the introduction of Sid and Nancy. Wink I also like the croconoceros/rhinodile, and it is interesting comparing your Sivatherium interpretation to Robert's.

From my point of view customizing could be even more challenging than sculpting from scratch, though having existing constraints can be fun and challenge creativity. I really loved extinct mammals as a child; if I ever try one I'll look to you and other forum customizers for advice or criticism! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:17 pm

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As I mentioned I've tried to catch up with your sculptures and customs- sure enough there were many I missed including some old ones like an impressive Diplodocus custom and a Gastonia (happily the toy companies have finally gotten around to this one!).

In this topic one of my favorites has to be, for some reason, Protitan grangeri. In the photo it has that bit of personality to its expression that you feel when looking at a living individual animal. I also learned something unexpected, with the introduction of Sid and Nancy. Wink I also like the croconoceros/rhinodile, and it is interesting comparing your Sivatherium interpretation to Robert's.

From my point of view customizing could be even more challenging than sculpting from scratch, though having existing constraints can be fun and challenge creativity. I really loved extinct mammals as a child; if I ever try one I'll look to you and other forum customizers for advice or criticism! Smile
   Thanks, the Gastonia is an old one from 15 years ago, today I know more about paleontology and anatomy and would do things different such as the legs and head. I am happier with the Iguanodon done at the same time.

   I'm also fond of the Protitan for some reason. Cool  Oddly enough my inspiration for what animal to do is rather spontaneous. I was viewing Google images doing a search for something and came upon the skull image of Proboscidipparion sinense and said what the heck is that? I pay attention to things like the sinus process on skulls and realized this was different than other horses. I found out what it was and looked up images and voila! Sid and Nancy were born. I already had a pair of Schleich zebras with the toe mods that nothing had been done with. They had rather low long noses and were naturals for the Proboscidipparion sinense conversions. I also have very good 3-D mental abilities and can visualize what appropriate animal to use and quickly carve up a figure in my head before doing it to vinyl.

   I wasn't even thinking about Indohyus at all until one day I came upon an image and it clicked in my head and what figure to use and so I started on it. Had most of it done that day.

   I have an image database on my computer of over 500 dinosaur and prehistoric reptile images and 750 prehistoric mammal images to look through. And I add to them every day. I love the deviantArt web site with the galleries of "sinammonite" and "TORIMORRIS" being especially useful among others. Also the web sites for Roman Yevseyev and Roman Uchytel have very good digital images.
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:20 pm

Very nice work again!!

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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:33 am

How did you convert the Papo camel to such an awesome Titanotylopus nebraskensis?
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PostSubject: Re: Paleoferroequine prehistoric mammal conversions   Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:04 pm

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How did you convert the Papo camel to such an awesome Titanotylopus nebraskensis?
   Thanks for looking. Very Happy  To start with I selected the bactrian camel instead of the dromedary since it had more fur to start with. I cut off the humps and re-sculpted the single hump. I use Magic-Sculpt two part epoxy. I then cut off the head and removed the neck also. A new neck was made. I altered the head; new ears, moved the eyes forward and up a bit. I also extended the muzzle maybe 1/8 inch or so. I then made a fluffy tail for it! And then painted it. That's it!
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