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Kiryuha



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PostSubject: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:39 am

Hi, everyone!
I'm in perplexity and hope you'll help me to worry it out.
Yesterday I was in a shop willing to buy Schleich moose cow and sitting raccoon. But I just couldn't choose a figure among the ones on the store shelves 'cause their painting was horrible! It was slovenly, or... I can't choose the right word. The same with the new howling wolf - it looked like a piece of pumice.
I don't want to believe that it is a deliberate reduction in the quality of painting to make production cheaper!
All the Schleich in Kiev shops is "Made in China". So, maybe (and hopefully) the figures that are made in Germany and Portugal have better painting quality, the one we got used to see in Schleich in 2009 and before?
Please, those who have got the moose cow, sitting raccoon and lions "Made in Germany" and Portugal, respond - is their painting up-to-the-mark?
It's important to me to decide - should I better order Schleich in modellpferdeversand to get Germany-made figures?

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:18 am

When you buy in Germany the figures are even Made in China. Many of the figures where made there. Sometimes the paint from Made in China was better then Made in Germany.

But sometimes some Charges are very bad. I saw in an shop all the sheeps has loosing one ear.
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:22 am

I've seen the moose cow, bull and calf in the shops and they've been beautifully (they would be made in china as well, I should think) painted. I'm very fussy about paintwork, so I know when a model is poorly painted.
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Kiryuha



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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:26 am

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When you buy in Germany the figures are even Made in China. Many of the figures where made there. Sometimes the paint from Made in China was better then Made in Germany....
Than, could you please tell me which wildlife figures from the 2010 line-up can be found "Made in Germany" in German shops?

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:28 am

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I've seen the moose cow, bull and calf in the shops and they've been beautifully (they would be made in china as well, I should think) painted. I'm very fussy about paintwork, so I know when a model is poorly painted.
Hm, maybe it was just a defective lot or so...
Moose bull is very good, by the way, I've already got it.

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:47 am

My moose cow and sitting raccoon are Made in Germany and perfect. The 141614 Gepardin and 14622 Jaguarjunges and 14609 Zebra are Made in China and even perfect. The Rest is even Made in Germany ore Portugal.

I think at baby-markt.de it is very cheaper then MPV and there you can pay with paypal.
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:55 am

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My moose cow and sitting raccoon are Made in Germany and perfect. The 141614 Gepardin and 14622 Jaguarjunges and 14609 Zebra are Made in China and even perfect. The Rest is even Made in Germany ore Portugal.

I think at baby-markt.de it is very cheaper then MPV and there you can pay with paypal.
Many thanks for advice!

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:58 am

All of my horses except for three of them are made in China (they don't sell any other countries' makes in here) and they are all very well painted in my opinion. But sometimes I see very badly painted ones in shops – for example I once saw a Lipizzaner stallion that was really grey, kind of smudged-looking, plus it had a BROWN STREAK on its side :S
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PostSubject: Change in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:42 am

Schleich sometimes has changed the painting of an animal when it got a new "family".
In the schleich string "Schleich retired 2011" was talk about the indian Rhino.

The old Female lion and cub got "better" painting when a new male was introduced.
The dalmation is another one I can think of, - are there others ???

Looking through some of my photoes I found these pix, - it seems the lovely old family of Polar Bears was changed altogether at some time, - if I am not mistaken Suspect

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There are probably more versions , but the newest ones I bought together as new - and RIPPED the tag off Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:42 am

Neat!
You ripped the tag off? Shocked Sad
Good for you! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:43 am

I love both versions of these, especially the one standing on it's hind legs. I have the old version standing on all fours (Made in Portugal).
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:58 am

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Neat!
You ripped the tag off? Shocked Sad
Good for you! Laughing

Yes, I always did that, I think they spoil the look of the figuere Twisted Evil

Now I hesitate, - but do it anyway lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:57 pm

I agree with you Susanne. I've never even thought about keeping the tags on because it spoils the realism. But that's just my (and Susanne's Very Happy) opinion of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:00 pm

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I agree with you Susanne. I've never even thought about keeping the tags on because it spoils the realism. But that's just my (and Susanne's Very Happy) opinion of course.
I used to keep the tags on, until someone said it spoils the paintwork underneath, then I removed them all. I only kept them on because I thought it would make them more valuable, but I'm not selling my collection so there's no need! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:08 pm

Eeeek! I also prefer them without tags but can't imagine removing them from long retired pieces. Maybe I will change my mind eventually. Now I'm wondering about paint damage. geek scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:15 pm

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Eeeek! I also prefer them without tags but can't imagine removing them from long retired pieces. Maybe I will change my mind eventually. Now I'm wondering about paint damage. geek scratch

It won`t damage the paint, I think. Only make the surface greasy from the glue.
What do you others say ? question
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:18 pm



It won`t damage the paint, I think. Only make the surface greasy from the glue.
What do you others say ? question [/quote]

i agree i have got some that have been retired for years and the paint is fine just a bit sticky from where the tag is
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:35 pm

I'm always thinking and realism so I don't want to keep the tags... I'm paying to have a nice figurine and then i'll stay like this one?
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If the tag wasn't removable I'll certainly won't it!!! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:46 pm

lol!
That is a very good example Wink

Also the Schelich ducklings, Pug puppies etc
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:33 am

I love this, - it makes me look through my shoe boxes of plastic-stuff Wink

The Asian Elefant from ´98 also changed his look when he got a new family in 2005

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His skin was no longer shiny, - actually the old one is another, softer material, - I can wag his tail cheers

Sorry is y`all know this already drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:42 am

Susanne, I love wag the tails of the figurines... they should think of it while producing... it's nice to wag a tail but not to wag a horn...
I bought the Papo Puma and I can't wag its taill!Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:57 am

affraid lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:25 pm

There are many variations Susanne, and i think you know by now..., even in the newer figurines.
For instance this newer lioness:

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This model was changed in 2008-2009.
I remove the tags immidiatly too, but i keep them in a stamp-album, as i mentioned before.
And believe me, they will colour your model after some time! Shocked
But the glue is not getting that hard, that you can't open the tag again, so with a pointy thing between the tag, you are able to open it again, and put around your model if you want.
How this will go after a time of 10 years, i don't know... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:10 am

Thanks, Willy and others for good advice.
I will find a place to keep the tags in the future....maybe drunken

So they changed the tigress also. I suupose somebody told them that it is only the cubs that hve spots Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lower quality in painting   Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:12 am

- Lioness, of course geek jocolor clown
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