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trevok4
Country/State : london UK Age : 24 Joined : 2012-08-23 Posts : 1199
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:01 pm | |
| its looking good so far _________________ T4
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12075
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:53 pm | |
| It looks incredible, cannot wait to see it finished! _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:45 pm | |
| Thank you Joan, Trevok and Paige! - HKHollinstone wrote:
- Thanks Anna. So what's Sculpey III like then, the texture and consistency? Is it hard and good to carve and can you paint it with acrylics after curing?
Before baking it's soft, maybe even softer than Fimo, it's quite much like Super Sculpey. After baking it's easy to carve, sand and also easy to paint with acrylics or any other paints. :) _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Miss Jane
Country/State : Australia Age : 30 Joined : 2013-10-09 Posts : 272
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:32 am | |
| This is incredible! I love the eyes particularly - so skilled and beautiful already - they show a lot of alertness.
Can't wait to see this one finished! |
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Silver Unicornis
Country/State : Polish girl living in Scotland Age : 36 Joined : 2011-03-13 Posts : 1337
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:28 pm | |
| I've been browsing a lot of photos of Huculs lately (especially of Hucul's Path ), I'm logging in to the forum and I see this topic The body is a tad too short - right now the model is significantly taller than longer. He should look better if you lengthened his barrel a bit. Huculs, as all primitive breeds, aren't as leggy as e.g. Warmbloods. Also the hooves look off to me - they are too small and still need some work to improve their shape. Other than that, he looks fine to me. I love the idea of windblown mane and tail - that always makes even a standing model more interesting If you want more profound insight, I can send photos of him to my friend who knows a LOT about equine anatomy - maybe she could write more constructive critique for you But she's quite busy with work at the moment so I can't promise quick response from her. Btw, are you planning to release him in resin? _________________ ~Magda (formerly Mangalarga) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Blog | Facebook
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:18 pm | |
| Thank you for comments Magda and Miss Jane! - Mangalarga wrote:
- I've been browsing a lot of photos of Huculs lately (especially of Hucul's Path ), I'm logging in to the forum and I see this topic
The body is a tad too short - right now the model is significantly taller than longer. He should look better if you lengthened his barrel a bit. Also the hooves look off to me - they are too small and still need some work to improve their shape. Wow, probably you are right, I didn't notice that. I will make some measurements again but perhaps it would be better if I make legs slightly shorter rather than body longer, especially because his head size is on the smaller side. And yes of course, as I mentioned earlier in this topic his legs and hooves are still not done. Especially hooves are at very early stage. - Mangalarga wrote:
- Other than that, he looks fine to me. I love the idea of windblown mane and tail - that always makes even a standing model more interesting
If you want more profound insight, I can send photos of him to my friend who knows a LOT about equine anatomy - maybe she could write more constructive critique for you ;)But she's quite busy with work at the moment so I can't promise quick response from her.
Btw, are you planning to release him in resin? It would be extremely nice if your friend could look at this!! However maybe it would be better to send the photos when work will be on more advanced stage? About copies, yes, there will be mold and copies of this model later. I don't know when, I'm not in hurry. I will write here and on FB when it's done _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Silver Unicornis
Country/State : Polish girl living in Scotland Age : 36 Joined : 2011-03-13 Posts : 1337
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:06 pm | |
| Yes, shortening the legs should improve him as well :)
Btw, you wrote that chestnut is unacceptable in this breed - it's true only for Polish studbook. I've read that they are accepted in Romania,Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary - studbooks in these countries do not accept pinto Huculs which are quite popular in Poland. _________________ ~Magda (formerly Mangalarga) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Blog | Facebook |
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Elephants Rule
Country/State : United States Age : 34 Joined : 2013-08-29 Posts : 50
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:12 am | |
| Wow! This model is fantastic! _________________ Please visit my page at www.artpal.com/coomarwildlife
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:07 pm | |
| Thank you for your comments Magda and Elephants Rule!!! - Mangalarga wrote:
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Btw, you wrote that chestnut is unacceptable in this breed - it's true only for Polish studbook. I've read that they are accepted in Romania,Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary - studbooks in these countries do not accept pinto Huculs which are quite popular in Poland. This is very interesting, I didn't know that! For me bay tobiano Hucul is perhaps the most typical colour :lol:Good to know it's only typical in Poland About his proportion, I'm not sure yet what with those legs. I measured his body length and height and he is 13cm long (of course not counting neck and head) and 12 high at withers so he is even few percent longer than higher. I'm not sure if shortening legs will change his proportion for better or worse Maybe I will do a small simulation in Photoshop Well the work goes slowly further. I still didn't change the legs length and anything below knees and hocks isn't done yet. But I worked on mane and tail a bit. Tail is going to be longer than now but I must do it in two steps, probably the end of tail I will sculpt in different clay: Sculpey firm which I hope allows for creating thinner shapes, I will see (it must arrive first, just ordered today). I make also one of the ears bigger to match the size of other one, and the same with one of nostrils. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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arafan
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:47 pm | |
| Looks amazing! I love the mane. |
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HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:56 pm | |
| Love the mane the way it's blowing in the wind, beautiful! _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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signatus
Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2011-01-31 Posts : 1204
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:51 pm | |
| Love this incredible figure Ana !! About Sculpey Firm what are the characteristics of this clay? It is easier to work than Super Sculpey? Congratulations again !! Miguel _________________ Miguel [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Likaon - Wildlife Models Shop http://www.likaonmodels.com/ My homemade models : www.signatustudio.com |
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Silver Unicornis
Country/State : Polish girl living in Scotland Age : 36 Joined : 2011-03-13 Posts : 1337
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:47 pm | |
| - Ana wrote:
- About his proportion, I'm not sure yet what with those legs. I measured his body length and height and he is 13cm long (of course not counting neck and head) and 12 high at withers so he is even few percent longer than higher. I'm not sure if shortening legs will change his proportion for better or worse Maybe I will do a small simulation in Photoshop
I think it's his thick neck that makes his body look a bit out of proportion - his withers aren't so pronounced. On THIS photo he looks OK Photoshop simulation sound like a great idea - maybe it'll help finding what is off about him :) _________________ ~Magda (formerly Mangalarga) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Blog | Facebook |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:17 pm | |
| _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45781
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:19 pm | |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12075
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:40 pm | |
| He's incredible. I cannot wait to see him done. _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:01 am | |
| _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:58 pm | |
| OK after some experiments in PS I'm perhaps even more confused about what's correct and what's not. I guess horses' body proportion can vary a lot in different individuals. Well you can see the effects here and judge if any look more or less natural to your eyes? This is original, not changed horse:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]This one has bigger hindquarter and head[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]This one has thinner neck[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]And the last one has more rounded belly and hindquarters AND thinner neck [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Any ideas? _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
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bjarki12
Country/State : UK Age : 36 Joined : 2012-12-11 Posts : 367
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:41 pm | |
| I'm really impressed with all of the detail you get into your animals. The muscles all look so realistic!
I'm sorry: I don't think I'm much help on the size changes. After doing an image search for Hucul ponies, it looks to me like maybe the one with the bigger hindquarters and head looks better. |
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Silver Unicornis
Country/State : Polish girl living in Scotland Age : 36 Joined : 2011-03-13 Posts : 1337
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:58 pm | |
| I'm also voting for thinner neck version :) _________________ ~Magda (formerly Mangalarga) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Blog | Facebook |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:23 pm | |
| Thanks so much for comments friends! - Mangalarga wrote:
- I'm also voting for thinner neck version :)
Yes, after reviewing today I think I will do that way _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:18 pm | |
| Hi, I have photos of Hucul after few more steps. Still several things to do before finish but I thought I will share photos of him at this level [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Also I found website of good polish photographer, plenty of Huculs' photos there, have a look and enjoy http://peckiel.pl/huculy/ I'm thinking about name for him as most of artist resin horses do have own name. I consider slavic name would fit best, something like Halny (it's name of wind blowing in mountains) Triglav (one of slavic gods) or Perun (also slavic god, one of his symbols was black horse) I don't know which one would be best, probably native English speakers could tell me more about which one sounds interesting? :DI can consider other options if none of them is good. _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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Fisva
Country/State : Poland Age : 34 Joined : 2012-08-15 Posts : 1094
| Subject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-) Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:46 pm | |
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