Papo 50161 Galapagos Tortoise Walk-Arounds

I bought this big figure in my local shop  
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Congratulation Florian, it is a nice tortoise    And very nice pics   

I also made a walkaround, would you agree I add my pics here to avoid double topics ?

Ohh sorry, I didn't see. I have watched before if there was already a Walk-Around but I didn't found    
Yes, it's ok if you make only one WK 

Florian wrote:

Ohh sorry, I didn't see. I have watched before if there was already a Walk-Around but I didn't found    
Yes, it's ok if you make only one WK 

Your's is the first one Florian, I only ment I already make the pics  

Thank you  

Kikimalou wrote:

Florian wrote:

Ohh sorry, I didn't see. I have watched before if there was already a Walk-Around but I didn't found    
Yes, it's ok if you make only one WK 

Your's is the first one Florian, I only ment I already make the pics   

Ahh ok, you want to say that you added some pictures of your turtle in your additions but my WK is the first 

PS; Je suis désolé car je n'avais pas bien compris la question. La traduction automatique de mon ordi
m'a un peu embrouillé 

Great pictures, guys   

Great pictures everyone!    

What a great turtle!
Thank you gentlemen for the pictures.

Great model! Congrats Florian  Nice you've Papo's in your town  

A beautieful figurine and a nice walkaround, thank you Florian     

Thank you Florian and Christophe! I,ll buy it!        

Thanks friends for your comments  

Florian wrote:

Nice a double WK.
PS; Je suis désolé car je n'avais pas bien compris la question. La traduction automatique de mon ordi
m'a un peu embrouillé  

Thank ou Florian   
Ps: En fait je me préparais à mettre ses photos sur STS quand j'ai découvert que tu étais en train de faire de même avec quelques minutes d'avance. Deux walkarounds me semblait une mauvaise idée et mettre mes photos aux oubliettes une mauvaise idée aussi.   
PS: Indeed I was uploading my walkaround when I discovered you were doing the same things a few minutes before. Having two walkaround about the same model at the same time seemed a bad idea for me but consigned my pics to oblivion was a bad idea too.  

Kikimalou wrote:

Florian wrote:

Nice a double WK.
PS; Je suis désolé car je n'avais pas bien compris la question. La traduction automatique de mon ordi
m'a un peu embrouillé  

Thank ou Florian   
Ps: En fait je me préparais à mettre ses photos sur STS quand j'ai découvert que tu étais en train de faire de même avec quelques minutes d'avance. Deux walkarounds me semblait une mauvaise idée et mettre mes photos aux oubliettes une mauvaise idée aussi.   
PS: Indeed I was uploading my walkaround when I discovered you were doing the same things a few minutes before. Having two walkaround about the same model at the same time seemed a bad idea for me but consigned my pics to oblivion was a bad idea too.  

Yes, it's well that. I understand your reaction 

By the way, we didn't see Roger since a long time  
He is probably in holidays or he has other things to do at the moment 

Don't worry, Roger is still watching at us   

Ahh yes I saw it in the memberlist  

Recently was identified a new species of Galapagos tortoise, it is still hard for me to distinguish these giants. I need to study a little better these wonderful creatures to make better my choices and diversify a little my collection of turtles and tortoises. I have the bad habit, as a TAI editor, of placing almost all giant tortoises as a Galapagos giant tortoise and much probably some of them are other species.
Unkoledgeably talking, I like very much the figure that both of you are presenting here. I have the previous Papo version, do you think this newer version represents really an important step forward in terms of acuracy?

Florian wrote:

By the way, we didn't see Roger since a long time  
He is probably in holidays or he has other things to do at the moment  

Thanks for noticing my lesser activity during these days, as Kiki said, I was watching, just not posting once I was far from home and using an old mobile phone. :)

Roger wrote:

Florian wrote:

By the way, we didn't see Roger since a long time  
He is probably in holidays or he has other things to do at the moment  

Thanks for noticing my lesser activity during these days, as Kiki said, I was watching, just not posting once I was far from home and using an old mobile phone. :)

Hello Rogério I'm so happy you found a path to this topic  Florian posted this question in 2014

Roger wrote:

Recently was identified a new species of Galapagos tortoise, it is still hard for me to distinguish these giants. I need to study a little better these wonderful creatures to make better my choices and diversify a little my collection of turtles and tortoises. I have the bad habit, as a TAI editor, of placing almost all giant tortoises as a Galapagos giant tortoise and much probably some of them are other species.
Unkoledgeably talking, I like very much the figure that both of you are presenting here. I have the previous Papo version, do you think this newer version represents really an important step forward in terms of acuracy?  

"Technically" speaking, there is only two real species of Giant tortoises, the Aldabara tortoise in the Indian ocean and the Galapagos tortoise in the Pacific ocean. What are the differences between Aldabara and Galapagos? In the toys world, mainly the ocean

Papo identified his last tortoise a Galapagos giant tortoise and the previous one as a Tortoise  The 50161 model is so a Galapagos tortoise with domed shell, but I can't tell the subspecies. The 50013 one could be what you like it could be, a domed Aladabara or a domed Galapagos

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger wrote:

Florian wrote:

By the way, we didn't see Roger since a long time  
He is probably in holidays or he has other things to do at the moment  

Thanks for noticing my lesser activity during these days, as Kiki said, I was watching, just not posting once I was far from home and using an old mobile phone. :)

Hello Rogério I'm so happy you found a path to this topic  Florian posted this question in 2014

Hahha Oh, this brought me a laugh from the heart

To be honest, I don`t know much about tortoises and for shure I can`t help with information,
but all I can say is : I realy realy love this model

It is a nice one indeed, a bit big even if it is a giant tortoise

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger wrote:

Florian wrote:

By the way, we didn't see Roger since a long time  
He is probably in holidays or he has other things to do at the moment  

Thanks for noticing my lesser activity during these days, as Kiki said, I was watching, just not posting once I was far from home and using an old mobile phone. :)

Hello Rogério I'm so happy you found a path to this topic  Florian posted this question in 2014

Strangely I noticed that. I only think that the timing in a topic whose subject is a tortoise doesn't have to follow the standards.

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger wrote:

Recently was identified a new species of Galapagos tortoise, it is still hard for me to distinguish these giants. I need to study a little better these wonderful creatures to make better my choices and diversify a little my collection of turtles and tortoises. I have the bad habit, as a TAI editor, of placing almost all giant tortoises as a Galapagos giant tortoise and much probably some of them are other species.
Unkoledgeably talking, I like very much the figure that both of you are presenting here. I have the previous Papo version, do you think this newer version represents really an important step forward in terms of acuracy?  

"Technically" speaking, there is only two real species of Giant tortoises, the Aldabara tortoise in the Indian ocean and the Galapagos tortoise in the Pacific ocean. What are the differences between Aldabara and Galapagos? In the toys world, mainly the ocean

Papo identified his last tortoise a Galapagos giant tortoise and the previous one as a Tortoise  The 50161 model is so a Galapagos tortoise with domed shell, but I can't tell the subspecies. The 50013 one could be what you like it could be, a domed Aladabara or a domed Galapagos

Oh, I see, often news describe them as new species but now I see that Galapagos giant tortoises are subspecies instead. I've read also that among these subspecies, the morphology is different according with the kind of area they live. So, both Britains tortoises Chris presented, can be Galapagos giant tortoises despite one is domed and other saddled. Aldabras are less common in toy shape so I believe they often don't take that species as reference to their figures. Thanks to you and Kosta for your replies.
I think it is interesting for me to find a figure identified as Aldabra and others from Galapagos up to the subspecies level even if they are very similar.

As far as I know every subspecies of the galapagos giant tortoises was updatet to full species. So there would be 15 species of the groups of Chelonoidis. So it was told me not long ago at my local zoo, by the way the only one in the old world that breeds Galapagos giant tortoises.

Roger wrote:

Oh, I see, often news describe them as new species but now I see that Galapagos giant tortoises are subspecies instead. I've read also that among these subspecies, the morphology is different according with the kind of area they live. So, both Britains tortoises Chris presented, can be Galapagos giant tortoises despite one is domed and other saddled. Aldabras are less common in toy shape so I believe they often don't take that species as reference to their figures. Thanks to you and Kosta for your replies.
I think it is interesting for me to find a figure identified as Aldabra and others from Galapagos up to the subspecies level even if they are very similar.

I think you are going too fast Rogério. Most of the time we don't know, especially for the vintage toys, which one could be an Aldabra or a Galapagos.

For the Lonesome George models we know the subspecies (or species), for the Yujin and Colorata, they are labelled Aldabra and some are labelled Galapagos. We have no reason to think the other "Giant tortoise" figurines aren't Aldabra. For example, Aldabra tortoises are far more common in German, Uk and French zoos than Galapagos tortoises. I think we can assume that at least Vintage tortoises are almost all Aldabra ones*. I think we can't deny it could be the same for German and French modern figurine, except when the species is specified.

* Except maybe the Britains because London zoo exhibited Galapagos tortoise. I guess Andrew or Chris could answer more precisely

arafan wrote:

As far as I know every subspecies of the galapagos giant tortoises was updatet to full species. So there would be 15 species of the groups of Chelonoidis. So it was told me not long ago at my local zoo, by the way the only one in the old world that breeds Galapagos giant tortoises.

Maybe but it won't change Roger's problem: Classification of Tortoise toys

So I did some reasearches now and I'm sure now it's an Aldabra giant tortoise. The head shape looks exactly like the one of the Aldabras. There is also a little escutchen betwen the two plates over the head, so definitley a Aldabra.

arafan wrote:

So I did some reasearches now and I'm sure now it's an Aldabra giant tortoise. The head shape looks exactly like the one of the Aldabras. There is also a little escutchen betwen the two plates over the head, so definitley a Aldabra.

It could make sense  So the Papo 50161 Galapagos Tortoise is probably an Aldabra tortoise and the Papo 50013 Tortoise could be a Galapagos. We are not saved