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This puffin by Nayab is in my opinion a tufted one, due to the markings above its eyesCorrections for Toy Animal Wiki - Page 5 Dsc_0512

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Widukind's photo might show it better.

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This puffin by Nayab is in my opinion a tufted one, due to the markings above its eyes


You may be right Adam, it doesn't look perfect for a tufted puffin but surely not also for an Atlantic. Could you please provide a close up of the head?

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I'm away from home but Widukind's shows it well: https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Nayab_Puffin

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I'm away from home but Widukind's shows it well: https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Nayab_Puffin

I know Andreas' picture but I'd love a second opinion here. Very Happy

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The photo will probably be up by Wednesday night, as I am away Very Happy

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One puffin Roger. Very Happy
I know its really hard to see the tuft but its the best I could do
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I am inclined to see the tuft as well, esp. in widukind's image
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I can see the tufts in this picture, thanks Adam, I will fix it on TAW. Very Happy

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Besides tufts (that I also can see), it have a black belly, which only the tufted puffins have.

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Of course Isidro, how didn't I notice that Rolling Eyes I was watching tufted puffins only last night, oh my memory: great long term, terrible short term Laughing

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I have a question. Is there a particular reason that black panthers have their own page? While for example white tigers don't? I understand that the figures are usually marketed as a "black panther" but some are specifically black jaguar/black leopard etc. (Especially ones released concurrently with the typical pattern jaguar/leopard). I just find it a little confusing in terms of categorization.

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Saarlooswolfhound wrote:
I have a question. Is there a particular reason that black panthers have their own page? While for example white tigers don't? I understand that the figures are usually marketed as a "black panther" but some are specifically black jaguar/black leopard etc. (Especially ones released concurrently with the typical pattern jaguar/leopard). I just find it a little confusing in terms of categorization.

Paige, white tigers have their own page but you can see that page transcluded on tiger page. When you check, they are in different galleries.
We can't transclude the black panthers page on leopards or jaguars page because they are different species.
We decided since the start to list all black panthers in a single page, this is a popular figure as a toy and often it is not easy to find the correct species. Most of the vintage figures are even known just as panthers. Marketing them as black jaguars or black leopards are a recent phenomenon. Most we can deduct from the mould used but not all and you have the Schleich black panther I reviewed recently that was used as both. So, if we mix the identifiable black panthers in their species pages, we will need still a black panther page to list those that are not identifiable. So, someone searching for black panthers, could miss those in their species pages.
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I understand your explanation. And I don't have a good suggestion on how to improve it... the only thing I can think of for now is maybe can it be included that for the regular spotted version of a jaguar also have a link on its page to its black jaguar friend? Etc. And then that way all the "black panthers" stay on their page but the obvious melanistic versions of concurrent spotted friends are linked to their shadowy versions? I hope that makes sense...

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I use links to figures that use the same moulds but, to be fair, I am only doing it regularly with AAA figures and not only about black panthers. I think it is a simple thing and useful. Though, to show you how black panther figures are complex to sort in a different way, you can check these links of the AAA panther figures and you will see that most use the same mould as lionesses instead of jaguars or leopards. Or the Beton panther that uses the same mould of a lioness and a tiger. Laughing Black panthers are an individual identity on toy animal collecting hobby even if taxonomically they are meaningless. We are lucky now of having figures like the Schleich or Papo black jaguars, these were non existent before.

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Very true words. AAA brand big cats especially are a mess...

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Goodmorning, I was on TAI, at the French manufacturers page.
And i noticed that the brand Acedo and Aludo link both go to the Domage et Cie page
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Goodmorning, I was on TAI, at the French manufacturers page.
And i noticed that the brand Acedo and Aludo link both go to the Domage et Cie page

Good detective work !
It must be Acedo which has the wrong link, I suppose ?
Unfortunately I do not know much about these brands, - I'll send a PM to Christophe Very Happy

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I think everything is explained if you read the presentation text on that page.
All the three names are for the same company and they changed the name as always as they changed the material used for their figures.

"Domage et Cie was a French company begun in 1920 making figures of lead, marked with DM. The switch to aluminum happened in 1937 using the trade name Aludo.
In the latter days of the company they produced in an acetate plastic under the name Acedo. They went out of business in 1960."

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I think everything is explained if you read the presentation text on that page.
All the three names are for the same company and they changed the name as always as they changed the material used for their figures.

"Domage et Cie was a French company begun in 1920 making figures of lead, marked with DM. The switch to aluminum happened in 1937 using the trade name Aludo.
In the latter days of the company they produced in an acetate plastic under the name Acedo. They went out of business in 1960."

 
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I was looking for...something and came across the Playspaces section:

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Playspaces

The problem is that it states that the figures are not marked with names--but they are. I no longer have the whole set, but I did, and the original 24 were all labelled. Based on one I still have (a "smilodon") they were also marked with numbers. Sadly, I only have maybe half of the species now, so I couldn't tell you all of the numbers--but I did once list them in order on the original Dino Toy Forum!

Corythosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Pteranodon
Tyrannosaurus
Stegosaurus
Camptosaurus
Iguanodon
Brontosaurus
Protoceratops
Triceratops
Parasaurolophus
Dimetrodon
Elasmosaurus
Tylosaurus
Icthyosaurus
Palaeoscincus
Polacanthus
Smilodon
Coelodonta (woolly rhino)
Cynognathus
Mammuthus
Moropus
Diatryma
Brachiosaurus

Note, there was a different T.rex, as well as a purple ichthyosaur, a Coelodonta rhino and a purple Ankylosaurus:

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(I'm really hoping those images work...)

Moreover--the original series (I got it in 1996) came with a set of dinos from Panini. The Maiasaura, Monoclonius and Velociraptor were later substitutions (or additions--I have seen tubes of the set that included a couple of the new ones with the original 24).

Because sets like this are sometimes crazy!

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I was looking for...something and came across the Playspaces section:

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Playspaces

The problem is that it states that the figures are not marked with names--but they are. I no longer have the whole set, but I did, and the original 24 were all labelled. Based on one I still have (a "smilodon") they were also marked with numbers. Sadly, I only have maybe half of the species now, so I couldn't tell you all of the numbers--but I did once list them in order on the original Dino Toy Forum!


I will let this with @Tiermann, they look all the same to me and Tim is the owner of the Playspaces series. I confess I thought those marked with numbers were Panini models. Have you checked the wonderful sister page about Panini? Check here! study
Your pictures always work, there is a good number of them at the wiki, being the most famous probably the famous PV dhole that was a golden jackal instead. Wink

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I was looking for...something and came across the Playspaces section:

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Playspaces

The problem is that it states that the figures are not marked with names--but they are. I no longer have the whole set, but I did, and the original 24 were all labelled. Based on one I still have (a "smilodon") they were also marked with numbers. Sadly, I only have maybe half of the species now, so I couldn't tell you all of the numbers--but I did once list them in order on the original Dino Toy Forum!


I will let this with @Tiermann, they look all the same to me and Tim is the owner of the Playspaces series. I confess I thought those marked with numbers were Panini models. Have you checked the wonderful sister page about Panini? Check here! study
Your pictures always work, there is a good number of them at the wiki, being the most famous probably the famous PV dhole that was a golden jackal instead. Wink

Yup, that's the one. I couldn't find the Panini page for some reason. I think Playspaces was a repackaging. I believe Mech was the maker of them... it's always so hard to be sure.

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The carabao is currently listed under breeds of cattle under Bos, but it is a domestic form of water buffalo (Bubalus)

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