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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21171
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:31 pm | |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:02 pm | |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:56 pm | |
| https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Desert_horned_lizard
you guys have a bunch of horned lizards dumped under the desert horned lizard. While many are generic, the Safari IC figure was specifically marketed as a Texas horned lizard when it came out (although their current website has it as just in the genus Phrynosoma) and the Papo figure, while sold generically, morphologically is also clearly a Texas, based on crown morphology and color (although color can vary based on habitat). |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:13 pm | |
| - bmathison1972 wrote:
- https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Desert_horned_lizard
you guys have a bunch of horned lizards dumped under the desert horned lizard. While many are generic, the Safari IC figure was specifically marketed as a Texas horned lizard when it came out (although their current website has it as just in the genus Phrynosoma) and the Papo figure, while sold generically, morphologically is also clearly a Texas, based on crown morphology and color (although color can vary based on habitat). OK, thanks, I fixed it and now there is a page for Texas horned lizard https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Texas_horned_lizard If you find the exact species of the others or at least if the generic ones can't be desert horned lizards, please let us know. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:40 pm | |
| Unidentified rhinoceros beetles:
1. the Cadbury Yowie figure was marketed as Xylotrupes gideon
2. The two Bullyland figures are more of a challenge. They were sold as 'rhinoceros' beetles but morphologically, they were most-certainly based on a coprine of some kind. Given that Bullyland favors (favored) local fauna, it is probably intended to be Copris fricator. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:43 pm | |
| - bmathison1972 wrote:
- Unidentified rhinoceros beetles:
1. the Cadbury Yowie figure was marketed as Xylotrupes gideon
2. The two Bullyland figures are more of a challenge. They were sold as 'rhinoceros' beetles but morphologically, they were most-certainly based on a coprine of some kind. Given that Bullyland favors (favored) local fauna, it is probably intended to be Copris fricator. 1 was easy and now we have a page for the brown rhinoceros beetle. 2 I don't know what to do, should I move these Bullyland to the dung beetle page? |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:48 pm | |
| The Japanese populations of the great tit (Parus major) are now a separate species, the Japanese tit, P. minor
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Great_tit
The Kaiyodo Birdtales figure (as well as the flying Furuta figure not shown here) most certainly represent P. minor
That could mean that Papo's 2022 P. major might be a 'new species' ;-) |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:40 pm | |
| - bmathison1972 wrote:
- The Japanese populations of the great tit (Parus major) are now a separate species, the Japanese tit, P. minor
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Great_tit
The Kaiyodo Birdtales figure (as well as the flying Furuta figure not shown here) most certainly represent P. minor
That could mean that Papo's 2022 P. major might be a 'new species' ;-) I opened a page for Japanese tit and the great tit page got orphaned waiting for Papo figure. Probably it is time to start grouping some passerine species into families on TAW, the Passeriformes page is getting too long what turns the editing work a painful task. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:15 pm | |
| I don't use to share this information here but since Passeriformes is a long page where people use to find all passerines, I think it is important to tell that I opened family pages for families with 6 or more species once it was getting difficult to work on it. Old World flycatcher s, crows, tits and finches have now their family pages. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:28 pm | |
| Here are some suggestions, rather than corrections, for PV Tropical Fish collection from 1996. These are more for people who might be interested in assigning species; may or may not affect TAI:
1. mandarin fish - Synchiropus splendidus - I agree with this 2. triggerfish - Pseudobalistes fuscus - I agree with that 3. pufferfish - I am proposing Canthigaster epilampra (lantern toby); they are color variable but often have a yellow tail 4. angelfish - juvenile Pomacanthus imperator, I agree with this 5. wrasse - I propose Pseudanthias tuka (yellowstriped fairy basslet) 6. clownfish - I agree with Coris aygula (but notice you have the species name spelled wrong on this page: https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Play_Visions_Tropical_Fish) 7. parrotfish - I have mine as Scarus altipinnis but S. ceruleus is probably just as good 8. butterfly fish, Chaetodon plebeius - I agree with this. |
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Birdsage
Country/State : United States/Texas Age : 17 Joined : 2021-01-11 Posts : 908
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:04 pm | |
| I definitely agree with these species. The triggerfish is clearly that species, so why not assign it? Same with the butterflyfish, even though it has an extra spot that the real one doesn’t. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:54 pm | |
| - Birdsage wrote:
- I definitely agree with these species. The triggerfish is clearly that species, so why not assign it? Same with the butterflyfish, even though it has an extra spot that the real one doesn’t.
For figures that are ambiguous, it's best to leave them generic and offer suggestions for the collector to decide on their own. |
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Birdsage
Country/State : United States/Texas Age : 17 Joined : 2021-01-11 Posts : 908
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:48 pm | |
| Are you saying that the triggerfish in particular is ambiguous? It is obviously none other than Pseudobalistes fuscus. Some of the others may be unclear, but the triggerfish is not. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:56 pm | |
| - Birdsage wrote:
- Are you saying that the triggerfish in particular is ambiguous? It is obviously none other than Pseudobalistes fuscus. Some of the others may be unclear, but the triggerfish is not.
I am speaking generally. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:58 pm | |
| OK, thanks Blaine and Birdsage. I can't check them all today and fish are not my aquarium of tea. though, I fixed the scientific name of the clownfish and I agree, the triggerfish is not that ambiguous so I opened a species page for it. Clownfish is also consensual but it already had its own page. About the wrasse, I really don't think we can be sure of the suggested species. I will try to remember revisiting this tomorrow. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:48 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- OK, thanks Blaine and Birdsage. I can't check them all today and fish are not my aquarium of tea.
though, I fixed the scientific name of the clownfish and I agree, the triggerfish is not that ambiguous so I opened a species page for it. Clownfish is also consensual but it already had its own page. About the wrasse, I really don't think we can be sure of the suggested species. I will try to remember revisiting this tomorrow. Pseudanthias tuka is probably the best option so far for the wrasse. An alternate common name for this species is 'queen purple wrasse' (even though it is not a true wrasse), hence possible confusion. It certainly is no where near close to what is currently suggested in TAI. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:31 pm | |
| - bmathison1972 wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- OK, thanks Blaine and Birdsage. I can't check them all today and fish are not my aquarium of tea.
though, I fixed the scientific name of the clownfish and I agree, the triggerfish is not that ambiguous so I opened a species page for it. Clownfish is also consensual but it already had its own page. About the wrasse, I really don't think we can be sure of the suggested species. I will try to remember revisiting this tomorrow. Pseudanthias tuka is probably the best option so far for the wrasse. An alternate common name for this species is 'queen purple wrasse' (even though it is not a true wrasse), hence possible confusion. It certainly is no where near close to what is currently suggested in TAI. I tend to find that a very plausible option, the fact it is known also as a wrasse despite being a fairy basslet may explain it. The blue line extending to the upper part of the tail seems to be a defining feature to this species. I will probably open a page for it. Meanwhile, I opened a page for the blueblotch butterflyfish, figure is not spot on but I haven't found any other related species that was so close in appearance so I think this is another one that we can assign to a species with relative confort. Also, if anyone finds better options, considering some species are different depending of gender or age, it won't be hard to fix. Later I will check all others. |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45745
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:26 pm | |
| Is that really a Gray fox?
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Marx_Wild_Animals_Fox
The box is from a Red fox and it looks not really like a gray fox. _________________ www.spielzeugtiere.com STS members can merge Andreas |
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21171
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:57 pm | |
| - widukind wrote:
- Is that really a Gray fox?
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Marx_Wild_Animals_Fox
The box is from a Red fox and it looks not really like a gray fox. Indeed |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 pm | |
| Could be the angelfish a Pomacanthus semicirculatus instead of a juvenile P. imperator? Here is the juvenile semicircle angelfish Here is a juvenile P. imperator |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:06 pm | |
| Whoa Roger that is much better! |
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21171
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:10 pm | |
| Indeed a juvenile Pomacanthus semicirculatus |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:41 pm | |
| ... but the mold is better for emperor but it is quite normal that they choose the mold of a more common species. What about the Yowies UK Angelfish as a Pomacanthus sexstriatus ? I was checking the genus and this match seemed good. Sixbar angelfish. |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:07 pm | |
| that also looks very good! |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:29 pm | |
| Parrotfish day. Actually, we have the Play Visions parrotfish identified as a captain parrotfish (Chlorurus enneacanthus) I am almost colorblind so it is very hard for me to choose species based on color. This species was previously placed on Scarus genus and the shape of the fins is more consistent with this species than the two "Scarus" previously suggested. Let me know which of the three you find the best option and I put everything corently on TAW. Play Visions figure Captain parrotfish (Chlorurus enneacanthus) Blue parrotfish (Scarus coeruleus) Minifin parrotfish (Scarus altipinnis) |
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