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PostSubject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki   Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki - Page 14 EmptyWed Dec 01, 2021 3:34 pm

I found the parrotfish the hardest to determine. What I have listed above I'll retain for my personal collection unless the evidence is overwhelming to the contrary
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Scarus altipinnis is the best match as far as color goes. The snout of Chlorurus enneacanthus is too short and blunt.
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The same mold is used as a bluechin parrotfish in a different set.
Click here. so maybe again the mold is generic and it is the color determining the species. So, I will use your suggestion with a question mark but clearly discussion around this fish is still open.

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this is probably just an editorial error, but how come the Safari TOOB grey reef shark is mixed in with the crocodile shark?

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Crocodile_shark

the grey reef shark is its own species: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_reef_shark
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bmathison1972 wrote:
this is probably just an editorial error, but how come the Safari TOOB grey reef shark is mixed in with the crocodile shark?

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Crocodile_shark

the grey reef shark is its own species: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_reef_shark

Probably an editor that dreams with crocodiles, not me. Laughing
It is fixed now but the tube figure doesn't look like the standard sized one.

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I think an editor put it there because it looks like the standard Crocodile Shark. Think about it. Just look at the shape of the snout and the proportions of the fins. It does look more like a Crocodile Shark than the Gray Reef Shark it was marked as. I thought putting it there was intentional.
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I am also not yet convinced with the shark and it is not the only mislabeled figure in that Safari toob.

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5. wrasse - I propose Pseudanthias tuka (yellowstriped fairy basslet)
I think we can assume this suggestion, Blaine already demistified the fact that this model is marketed as a wrasse.
Thus, I opened a page for the yellowstriped fairy basslet until someone find a better suggestion if it exists.

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I think that is a good identification.
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This Safari Incredible creature Puffer is not identified on TAW.
Do you think itt could be a longspine porcupinefish? (Diodon holocanthus)


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PostSubject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki   Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki - Page 14 EmptyMon Dec 06, 2021 8:29 pm

It was sold as a porcupine fish; D. hystrix is also one to consider with the dark maculae
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PostSubject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki   Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki - Page 14 EmptyMon Dec 06, 2021 8:52 pm

Thanks Blaine. It was sold as a puffer as we can see on this old catalogue. Though, it is a porcupiinefish, at least we are suggesting the same genus, I'd love to read more opinions about it.

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Oh! I wonder if they changed that (or I am just mis-remembering.... Sleep Sleep Sleep )
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bmathison1972 wrote:
Oh! I wonder if they changed that (or I am just mis-remembering.... Sleep Sleep Sleep )

Their 2019 catalogue, shows the reissued model also sold as puffer. I ended listing it as a longspine porcupinefish, with a question mark, because this species is more common and it also has black blotches that fade with age but it is easy to find individuals like that.
What I was not able of finding a satisfying identification was the Play Visions pufferfish, the model is actually very beautiful but I cannot find that game of spots, strips and spots in any speciies or morph and my head looks now like an inflated pufferfish. Laughing

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Much better to use as Diodon holocanthus, because Diodon hystrix have much shorter spines.

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Diodon holocanthus (at Duisburg zoo)

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Diodon hystrix (at Berlin zoo)

other species that I know is Diodon liturosus, but it have much bigger dark blotches on body and it can be discarded for the Safari figure. I never saw it so I don't have pics of this species

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PostSubject: Re: Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki   Corrections for Toy Animal Wiki - Page 14 EmptyTue Dec 07, 2021 2:22 pm

Thanks Isidro!
Here is a great page about Diodon liturosus whose pictures cannot be used. The face of this creature is phenomenal. Laughing

To keep things running, do you think this Bullyland funny porcupinefish can also be assigned to a certain species?
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@Roger
For me, those are all the same species. The same for the Safari LTD Good Luck Mini Porcupinefish.
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Hello :)

Continuing the Fish theme, I added some pictures to my "identification thread" here: https://sts-forum.forumieren.de/t9957p50-help-identifying-my-animals

Most of them are already identified with the help from Pardofelis. However, the pictures can be used for the TAW, but I don´t know the brand.

I have still questions for the "K+M Parrotfish", that isn´t identified on TAW.
Another question is for the "AAA Tiger shark", that is marked as this species, but doesn´really look like this species...
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Based on the proportions of the fins and body, I can identify the sharks as Lemon Sharks. The yellow color matches too.
I have the parrotfish, and I cannot find a species that matches. The closest match in color is Queen Parrotfish, but the fins aren’t right.
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The parrotfish must be one of the totally blue species, most probably Scarus coeruleus.

Here's the one I've photographed at Berlin zoo:
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And the TAI one:
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Agree that lemon shark is a good candidate. Lemon sharks have a wide, flatish head, do your shark have this feature?


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When checking the parrotfish, I was tempted to list it as a Queen parrotfish but I was always convinced it is supposed to be a blue parrotfish. I surely don't know which identification is better but I am listing it as a blue parrotfish with a questionmark, better to put it somewhere than keeping it abandoned to avoid that it gets forgotten. If a better idea pops, it will be easy to fix.

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Ok thanks for the parrotfish.As I already have the Safari toob parrotfish as blue one, I will choose one of the many other species :)

For the AAA "Tiger shark" - I think it really works better as Lemon Shark, even that the head is not asflated as the one made by Safari ltd. But compared to the 2 on TAW from K+M, that could work.
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By casuality I've found this:
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Pterophyllum

The page "Angelfish" refers to the freshwater angelfish, a cichlid very popular in aquariums (Pterophyllum scalare).
However the first figure, the Safari angelfish https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Safari_699104_Angel_Fish is a model very clearly representing one of the species in a very different family: the angelfishes, or marine angelfishes (family Pomacanthidae). More precisely is a Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loriculus). Then it should go in the respective page:

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Flame_angelfish

The name angelfish also can be applied to a third, even much more unrelated kind of fishes, the Pantodon buchholzi. At least in Spanish is applied in aquarium hobby. For being accurate is better to be guided by scientific classification rather than common names as the latter can cause this kind of confusions.

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Pardofelis wrote:
By casuality I've found this:
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Pterophyllum

The page "Angelfish" refers to the freshwater angelfish, a cichlid very popular in aquariums (Pterophyllum scalare).
However the first figure, the Safari angelfish https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Safari_699104_Angel_Fish is a model very clearly representing one of the species in a very different family: the angelfishes, or marine angelfishes (family Pomacanthidae). More precisely is a Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loriculus). Then it should go in the respective page:

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Flame_angelfish

The name angelfish also can be applied to a third, even much more unrelated kind of fishes, the Pantodon buchholzi. At least in Spanish is applied in aquarium hobby. For being accurate is better to be guided by scientific classification rather than common names as the latter can cause this kind of confusions.

I will fix it, however, the figure is actually correctly identified as you can see here
https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Safari_Coral_Reef_Toob_699104_Angel_Fish

That's an old page that got lost and needs to be removed and obviously it is linked to the wrong section. Thanks! Very Happy

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TAI has the Safari 'pterosaur' as Ahanguera: https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Safari_299729_Pterosaur

However, that figure was sculpted after a specimen that is still undescribed; it is not currently possible to assign a genus or species to it (represents an undescribed genus).
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bmathison1972 wrote:
TAI has the Safari 'pterosaur' as Ahanguera: https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Safari_299729_Pterosaur

However, that figure was sculpted after a specimen that is still undescribed; it is not currently possible to assign a genus or species to it (represents an undescribed genus).

You're right, Anhanguera was because it was assigned to the Ornithocheiridae family, I guess. I moved it to Pterosauria page.

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