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Schleich made this older model of a bull which I think maybe an attempt at a Pinzguer bull.
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Collect A made this rooster which looks like a breed of chicken called a Brahma.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Possibly a Merinolandshaf?made by Schleich
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Taos wrote:
Collect A made this rooster which looks like a breed of chicken called a Brahma.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Certainly it does not look like a Brahma at all. Brahma is very characteristic and totally different to the generic rooster represented in this figure. It have feathers in the legs to the toes, and much smaller crest, also a characteristic "small-headed" stocky shape.
There are tons of breeds that could fit well with this figure, for example a New Hampshire. But more probably fits better with a no-breed domestic chicken.

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Very interesting.
Now, it's my turn again. The Schleich Alpaca and I think nearly all alpaca models out there resemble the Huacaya breed.

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In the Schleich pet collection, there was a Tortoise, which resembles a Russian Tortoise. This species often serves as a pet in Germany, particularly in the eastern territories. I also have a Russian Tortoise, which you can also see here:

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Megaptera wrote:
In the Schleich pet collection, there was a Tortoise, which resembles a Russian Tortoise. This species often serves as a pet in Germany, particularly in the eastern territories. I also have a Russian Tortoise, which you can also see here:

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Interesting, very interesting

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The old frog from Schleich resembles a Pool Frog, which is a common pet in Germany.

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And this frog from Schleich resembles a European Tree Frog:

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Megaptera have in his collection a Schleich porcupine. I don't post photos because I don't have own photos of it (as I not have this figure), but today I've read that it's a Indian crested porcupine (Hystrix indica), as it have a black mane. African and South African crested porcupines have a partially white mane.

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You are right. This truly is an Indian Porcupine. Moreover, it seems that the new Porcupine from CollectA is more a Cape Porcupine.

Indian Porcupine:
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Interesting

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The Science and Nature Quoll is an Eastern Quoll:

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Found in ATF a message saying that the Safari LTD's coyote (the one belonging to the Wild Safari North American Wildlife, not the enormous one belonging to Wildlife Wonders) represent an Eastern Coyote (group of coyotes with wolf and dog blood that forms a self-sustaining population), eastern coyotes have a bolder black stripe in their backs and are less fuzzy, bigger and more "wolfy" than western coyotes and looks like to match better with the Safari figurine.

Eastern Coyotes are not a taxon (they have no different scientific name), but since in this thread are accepted also domestic breeds or even age stages (as in the brown pelican), that also are not taxons, I think it can go here.

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Very interesting, Pardofelis.
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Megaptera wrote:
Very interesting, Pardofelis.

I agree :)

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The Black Panther from Schleich is a Javan Leopard. Researches have shown, that this melanism only occurs in this subspecies. Even Black Panthers in Zoos have at least 70 % the Javan genotype:

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Moreover, Leopards with this melanism are more resistant to several diseases.
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Perhaps clarify what you mean by 'this melanism'?  Is the melanism in Javan leopards different than the melanism attested in leopards in the Rift Valley, Aberdare Mountains, or India?  I've heard it's more common in Javan leopards than in other populations, but do you mean that it's a different mutation that the makers of the Schleich model were trying to capture specifically?
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Modern science have shown that all Leopards, which are showing this form of melanism are Javan Leopards. Even in other countries. So, the researchers believe, that Panthers in the wild of other countries are the descendants of Javan ones, which were captures for kings. They always share the same genotype and they are completely different from other leopard subspecies in this gene sequence.
Once there were only Javans with this melanism, but because of zoos, royals, whatever in the 19th and early 20th century, they were mixed up with other leopard subspecies. So, Panthers in zoos are no real Panthers. Their genomes show at least 20 % informations of other subspecies.
So all in all, the melanism of leopards has its origin in the javan region. It was an adaptation to a disease and other threats.

But as always in nature, there are maybe also other subspecies, which can show melanism.
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Do you mean really that wild African leopards of Rift valley are actually the Javan subspecies becoming from escapes?

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No, these really are mutants with melanism. But it has shown, that all black panthers in Zoos or in the hands of royals are Javan Leopards.
As I said, there is never a no in nature. Very Happy
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