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It looks like a double-crested cormorant (Phalacrocorax auritus) to me. Do you agree?
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It looks like a double-crested cormorant (Phalacrocorax auritus) to me. Do you agree?
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Yes, the lack of white on the flanks and chin should rule-out the great cormorant.

The Kaiyodo figure specifically shows breeding plumage of the Asian subspecies of great cormorant, P. c. sinensis (maybe P. c. hendae?).

So, it should be a new species for those of us with the Kaiyodo figure.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 1:14 pm

I usually don't buy Kayodo becausa I don't like assembled figurines. So it is a brand-new species for my menagerie!



Yes, the lack of white on the flanks and chin should rule-out the great cormorant.

The Kaiyodo figure specifically shows breeding plumage of the Asian subspecies of great cormorant, P. c. sinensis (maybe P. c. hendae?).

So, it should be a new species for those of us with the Kaiyodo figure.[/quote]

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Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
What a year for bug an arthropodes lovers!
For me, there isn´t so much this year, but it seems Papo will be the winner.

The insects look great, but I fear that they´re to big for me, so that I rather would buy one of the many toobs, even that they aren´t as beautiful.

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

The cormorant is very interesting, even that I have one from Kaiyodo. But the Kaiyodo one has this weird face pattern that doesn´t resemble the cormorants that I see nearly daily. Perhaps it is another species? study
When not, I think Papo will replace it.

At last, there is the Hermann´s tortoise, a well-known pet. I´m sure there were already other figurines of this species in toobs or pet ranges. But it seems like Papo is the first big companie to name it so.

Edit: I just saw that Blaine thinks it could be a double-crested cormorant. That would be interesting news!

Agreed about the jackal...it looks pretty generic. Maybe if I see it for real.

But the sailfish looks good, so that's something.

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Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
spacelab wrote:


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

I did not see the species name in their website..where is it? It just states "Jackal"...  Anyway, I guess we can see it's a golden jackal. I would love to have one, but I have to see it in person since I'm not sure about the face painting and its size.

Oh, I didn´t look on their website, I only read the comments here on the forum.

I was the first calling it a golden jackal. Not because it is obvious and I also find the figure lazy. Though, there are only three species known as jackals. Black-backed jackals are very easy to identify because of their contrasting black back. Side-striped jackals show some variation in their colors but they have a distinctive dark tail with a white tip. At least, I can't see a white-tiped tail but it is not the first time I miss a white part of a figure pictured with a white background.
So, the only left is the golden jackal that also shows some color variations and they don't have relevant markings. The other option is an African golden wolf, also known as grey jackal but I doubt Papo would use as reference a species that was just recently placed to the species level, it was during a long time placed as a subspecies of the golden jackal.

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Dear Rogério,
Look at these figurines:
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They're both from Papo, of course: the generic canidae/golden jackal and their grey wolf. Yes, they're different, but their posture is very similar. I think they used the wolf as some sort of model.

Roger wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
spacelab wrote:


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

I did not see the species name in their website..where is it? It just states "Jackal"...  Anyway, I guess we can see it's a golden jackal. I would love to have one, but I have to see it in person since I'm not sure about the face painting and its size.

Oh, I didn´t look on their website, I only read the comments here on the forum.

I was the first calling it a golden jackal. Not because it is obvious and I also find the figure lazy. Though, there are only three species known as jackals. Black-backed jackals are very easy to identify because of their contrasting black back. Side-striped jackals show some variation in their colors but they have a distinctive dark tail with a white tip. At least, I can't see a white-tiped tail but it is not the first time I miss a white part of a figure pictured with a white background.
So, the only left is the golden jackal that also shows some color variations and they don't have relevant markings. The other option is an African golden wolf, also known as grey jackal but I doubt Papo would use as reference a species that was just recently placed to the species level, it was during a long time placed as a subspecies of the golden jackal.

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Roger wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
spacelab wrote:


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

I did not see the species name in their website..where is it? It just states "Jackal"...  Anyway, I guess we can see it's a golden jackal. I would love to have one, but I have to see it in person since I'm not sure about the face painting and its size.

Oh, I didn´t look on their website, I only read the comments here on the forum.

I was the first calling it a golden jackal. Not because it is obvious and I also find the figure lazy. Though, there are only three species known as jackals. Black-backed jackals are very easy to identify because of their contrasting black back. Side-striped jackals show some variation in their colors but they have a distinctive dark tail with a white tip. At least, I can't see a white-tiped tail but it is not the first time I miss a white part of a figure pictured with a white background.
So, the only left is the golden jackal that also shows some color variations and they don't have relevant markings. The other option is an African golden wolf, also known as grey jackal but I doubt Papo would use as reference a species that was just recently placed to the species level, it was during a long time placed as a subspecies of the golden jackal.

actually that's a good point Roger. Sometimes Papo mixes up common names, probably due to translatinal errors. For example, they call the 2020 sailfish a 'swordfish'. So a 'jackal' could be a golden jackal or grey Jackal (African golden wolf). I am likely to side with the former and if I get it, call mine a golden jackal.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 3:12 pm

bmathison1972 wrote:
Roger wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
spacelab wrote:


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

I did not see the species name in their website..where is it? It just states "Jackal"...  Anyway, I guess we can see it's a golden jackal. I would love to have one, but I have to see it in person since I'm not sure about the face painting and its size.

Oh, I didn´t look on their website, I only read the comments here on the forum.

I was the first calling it a golden jackal. Not because it is obvious and I also find the figure lazy. Though, there are only three species known as jackals. Black-backed jackals are very easy to identify because of their contrasting black back. Side-striped jackals show some variation in their colors but they have a distinctive dark tail with a white tip. At least, I can't see a white-tiped tail but it is not the first time I miss a white part of a figure pictured with a white background.
So, the only left is the golden jackal that also shows some color variations and they don't have relevant markings. The other option is an African golden wolf, also known as grey jackal but I doubt Papo would use as reference a species that was just recently placed to the species level, it was during a long time placed as a subspecies of the golden jackal.

actually that's a good point Roger. Sometimes Papo mixes up common names, probably due to translatinal errors. For example, they call the 2020 sailfish a 'swordfish'. So a 'jackal' could be a golden jackal or grey Jackal (African golden wolf). I am likely to side with the former and if I get it, call mine a golden jackal.

You could be right. It honestly looks just as much like a chunky coyote in the winter.

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 4:25 pm

Is it me or the new papo animals look more "schleich-ish" than ever? Some are even smiling or making eyes at me...

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 4:30 pm

good observation; it is the one thing (and possible size) that I am still on the fence for the mole. But if it's small (2 inches or smaller), I'd still consider it. These are not quite as obvious as Schleich's though. Those by Schleich have an almost human-characteristic to the facial expressions.
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bmathison1972 wrote:
These are not quite as obvious as Schleich's though. Those by Schleich have an almost human-characteristic to the facial expressions.
To my eyes, it's almost the same. The cattle has kind of a humanized face. The same goes for the lamb, the jackal, the Irish horse, the squirrel... even the crab's face is funny...
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bmathison1972 wrote:
Roger wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
spacelab wrote:


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The golden jackal would be a must-have, but the figurine looks very lazy. The only interesting thing is that Papo gave it a species name, but it looks very poor for me.

I did not see the species name in their website..where is it? It just states "Jackal"...  Anyway, I guess we can see it's a golden jackal. I would love to have one, but I have to see it in person since I'm not sure about the face painting and its size.

Oh, I didn´t look on their website, I only read the comments here on the forum.

I was the first calling it a golden jackal. Not because it is obvious and I also find the figure lazy. Though, there are only three species known as jackals. Black-backed jackals are very easy to identify because of their contrasting black back. Side-striped jackals show some variation in their colors but they have a distinctive dark tail with a white tip. At least, I can't see a white-tiped tail but it is not the first time I miss a white part of a figure pictured with a white background.
So, the only left is the golden jackal that also shows some color variations and they don't have relevant markings. The other option is an African golden wolf, also known as grey jackal but I doubt Papo would use as reference a species that was just recently placed to the species level, it was during a long time placed as a subspecies of the golden jackal.

actually that's a good point Roger. Sometimes Papo mixes up common names, probably due to translatinal errors. For example, they call the 2020 sailfish a 'swordfish'. So a 'jackal' could be a golden jackal or grey Jackal (African golden wolf). I am likely to side with the former and if I get it, call mine a golden jackal.

The Jackal from Papo reminds me a bit on the Safari LTD Fennec Fox from 2013. That figurine also wasn´t as good as for exemple the CollectA one. I´m even sure, that some collectors in this forum suggested it to be another species, like a Rueppels fox (however I cannot find this thread at the moment). So also the Papo jackal could arrive as different species on our shelves.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 6:43 pm

Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
What a year for bug an arthropodes lovers!
But the Kaiyodo one has this weird face pattern that doesn´t resemble the cormorants that I see nearly daily. Perhaps it is another species? study
When not, I think Papo will replace it.

The Kaiyodo one, as has been previously mentioned, is meant to represent an Asian subspecies of the great cormorant in breeding plumage. This figure looks like it's meant to represent a European subspecies of the same species in non-breeding plumage*

*In response to Blaine; not all non-breeding great cormorants I've seen (in real life or in picture form) have white cheeks or flanks.

Just two questions for those more informed on sailfish than me; Is the gray-black part of the colouration accurate? And which of the two species is it closer to?
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 6:52 pm

It is, perhaps, an Atlantic sailfish (Istiophorus albicans).
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Ravonium wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
What a year for bug an arthropodes lovers!
But the Kaiyodo one has this weird face pattern that doesn´t resemble the cormorants that I see nearly daily. Perhaps it is another species? study
When not, I think Papo will replace it.

The Kaiyodo one, as has been previously mentioned, is meant to represent an Asian subspecies of the great cormorant in breeding plumage. This figure looks like it's meant to represent a European subspecies of the same species in non-breeding plumage*

*In response to Blaine; not all non-breeding great cormorants I've seen (in real life or in picture form) have white cheeks or flanks.

Just two questions for those more informed on sailfish than me; Is the gray-black part of the colouration accurate? And which of the two species is it closer to?

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I'm very interested in the Golden Jackal, Mole, the Sailfish, Cormorant, Pheasant, the Hermann's Tortoise, the Roman Snail, the Edible Crab and also the Bee, finally a Bee Razz
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oops, misread :)


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Megaptera wrote:
I'm very interested in the Golden Jackal, Mole, the Sailfish, Cormorant, Pheasant, the Hermann's Tortoise, the Roman Snail, the Edible Crab and also the Bee, finally a Bee Razz

exactly the same except I am getting all the insects LOL
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Ravonium wrote:
Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
What a year for bug an arthropodes lovers!
But the Kaiyodo one has this weird face pattern that doesn´t resemble the cormorants that I see nearly daily. Perhaps it is another species? study
When not, I think Papo will replace it.

The Kaiyodo one, as has been previously mentioned, is meant to represent an Asian subspecies of the great cormorant in breeding plumage. This figure looks like it's meant to represent a European subspecies of the same species in non-breeding plumage*

*In response to Blaine; not all non-breeding great cormorants I've seen (in real life or in picture form) have white cheeks or flanks.


thanks you prob know more about birds than I do :)

But at least it's not the same species as the Kaiyodo
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bmathison1972 wrote:

thanks you prob know more about birds than I do :)

You're welcome.

On second thought, though, I'm going to refrain from giving the figure an ID until in-hand images become avaliable; what species it is will, at least in my view, be dependent on the overall proportions and whether the 'light patch'* around the beak is part of the paintjob or not. Both of these cannot be determined by a stock image, and due to this I think a double-crested cormorant is just as valid of a ID for now.

Just to clarify my previous comments further (since I feel that I oversimplified them), the white flanks (from what I've read) only occur on breeding adults (which this figure clearly does not represent). Both breeding and non-breeding adults have some white feathering around the beak (cheek and throat area), however the extent of this is variable from individual to individual on non-breeding adults, and also less pronounced than on breeding adults.

*in the upper part of the throat in the image shown below, it seems to be lighter than the surrounding area, however there's a good chance this is coincidental, as the crest also displays this:
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I wish we had a Papo contact to clarify. I will get it, because it can either be a new species or new subspecies (I have the Kaiyodo figure).
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Roger wrote:

I missed the mole at first and also the Hermann's tortoise, together with the swordfish, these are three figures to check.

yes the 'swordfish' is actually a sailfish, and I will probably get that too.

I've red it as swordfish and I was distracted enough to make the same mistake. I will never call sailfish to a swordfish but I won't warrant the other way round. Laughing
It is also hard for me to believe that the brand is calling jackal to that figure as a result of a translation. Coyotes are more popular than jackals in European culture and we all call these American dogs as coyotes. The French word is even the same as the English word. I know coyotes are sometimes called American jackals but that's quite rare. However, I think with the correct markings, the figure could look like a coyote. It is also important to notice that these species are not so different in terms of morphology.

ze_neto wrote:
Dear Rogério,
Look at these figurines:

Do you think it is a Frankenstein wolf? Some Papo dinosaurs are known for having parts of the body that are completely alike.
For a remastered figure they are different enough, though, they are surely from the same sculptor.


Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:

The Jackal from Papo reminds me a bit on the Safari LTD Fennec Fox from 2013. That figurine also wasn´t as good as for exemple the CollectA one. I´m even sure, that some collectors in this forum suggested it to be another species, like a Rueppels fox (however I cannot find this thread at the moment). So also the Papo jackal could arrive as different species on our shelves.

Yes, one of the topics is [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] The difference is that Safari is marketing it to the species level and the sculptor, Doug Watson, confirmed it was a fennec fox. So, as much as I believe it works better as a Rüppell's fox, I use it as a fennec.
The jackal is just called like that and I am just thinking as you, it is supposed to be a golden jackal but as it is not that good, it easily may ressemble other close related species. However, if someone shows it to be another species, I will accept as long as the identification is convincent.


p.s. I wanted to update the first post with all pictures but my computer is not helping me, could someone do it for me. I could copy Massimo's posts but pics are too small.

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Roger wrote:

It is also hard for me to believe that the brand is calling jackal to that figure as a result of a translation. Coyotes are more popular than jackals in European culture and we all call these American dogs as coyotes. The French word is even the same as the English word. I know coyotes are sometimes called American jackals but that's quite rare. However, I think with the correct markings, the figure could look like a coyote. It is also important to notice that these species are not so different in terms of morphology.


I have a hard time believing this is a coyote. The golden jackal has recently(?) been documented in France so it could be why Papo chose now to make one.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2020 new releases with photos   Papo 2020 new releases with photos - Page 3 EmptyWed Dec 18, 2019 2:20 am

That Tiger cub I love you I love you I love you I love you

Many insects and other small animals here, nice. Sailfish and young whale shark also good.

I like the new kraken (looks more like a killer ammonite cheers )

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I like the kraken, thanks for showing it! (or not, given Papo isn't sold around here Razz ) Wonder if the chain could be easily removed? I'd prefer it without.
It would be a killer ammonite in my collection.
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