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PostSubject: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 11:57 am

An idea I had on this rainy November day Very Happy
What do you think is the future, for collecting animal figures? Shocked Shocked
What will happen to the major brands over the next few years? Is there a trend they are following, will they cease to exist, will they start to specialise in certain species/ types of models? Where will STS be in 50 years time? Do you think that animal figures will change, maybe more will be 3D printed, will some be made so realistically they can barely be told apart from their real counterparts... will a new amazing brand appear? Just a few things to think about Razz !
I'll try and give my opinion as far as dogs are concerned, although I'm fairly new to the collecting world so it may not all be accurate!
I think that Schleich dogs (And all Schleich) are popular now, because of how wonderful their figures were in the past. And yes, I think they are still very popular now, but maybe, if they keep following the way they are going, they will become both overpriced and badly made, and uless they change, fall out of favour for children... maybe Very Happy unless, of course, they realise that they were more successful before. I also think that they will continue to do this cutesy style, and release mostly fantastical figures. But maybe, Schleich will not be here in 100 years time Shocked
For Bullyland, I saw somewhere on this forum, that they may close down Sad , which was so very sad as they have made some wonderful dogs. Unless they can find some way of getting themselves back on this competitive market, I fear they may be lost Sad
I think that Safari will have a positive future, because they are a big American brand and haven't yet, in my opinion reached their peak. And watching the trend of the dogs shows this, I'm really hoping for some amazing models in the future, it's always exciting when you realise the best is yet to come!
CollectA as well is turning into a favourite for many, but for some reason I don't think they are that widely known... but their dogs too are getting better and better, and I think this is the same for their other animals. Could they become the new Schleich? I fear they might go the 'toy' way, maybe once they have reached the same peak that Schleich once reached, and bring out playsets and all the rest and switch to the cutesy style. But for now we can enjoy their wonderful collectors' items Very Happy
I love Papo, and for me their dogs have pretty much remained at a consistent standard, and they are a popular brand. It's hard to recognise any trends, although this may be more obvious in the wildlife, but I feel they may be here for many years sunny cheers
And finally Mojo, the new brand, and like the humble beginnings of the others, I am excited for their peak! They will become more well known with their 'Animal Planet' partnership, and maybe they too will become the 'new Schleich'. I think they are more likely to go down the childrens' toys route with the less realistic style that goes with it, but until then I think their models will get very good! But only time will tell Very Happy
I'm hoping STS will still be here in 50 years time, because it really is a wonderful wonderful forum flower
I had this crazy idea, about what models will change to in the future- they will become 'hyperrealistic' Shocked geek
So they will be made of real, to scale fur, with all the different textures when you feel the nose, eyes, etc. be perfectly made in every way, to scale with every shade of colour accurately done. Some may even be able to move and behave scarily like a tiny version of the actual animal, but I doubt I would want a load of tiny dogs, racing around my shelves and knocking each other over! Laughing Maybe as well 3D printing will improve to include colour, and somehow you could just tell the computer which animal to make, and they will make and exact printed copy, colour and all... Shocked
Phew, long answer, but I hope this topic is interesting! But if I could hope for one thing in the future, it would be that whatever the brand, high quality animals will continue to be produced, and that STS will still be here! sunny And I am excited to hear everyone else's views! bounce bounce
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 12:24 pm

Look in the past. Animal figures are many many years old. Also as toy figures. But i think collectors will be less.

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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 12:27 pm

Definitely, I think they will always be around in some form, as they have for many years and are hugely popular Very Happy But I think it depends on what form this will be! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 12:45 pm

I think plastic from petroleum material will be soon replaced by organic or mineral one and maybe, with a main stream for kids and another one for more "adults" collectors inside each big brands.. but it's also what I wish! :)
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 12:47 pm

Oh yes that is what I wish too!Very Happy That would be such a good move too, because they would be appealing to both adults and children, and of course saving the planet! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 1:06 pm

It's a very interesting topic. I believe that good, 3D printing with accurate colours isn't so far off anymore. Initially, it will still be expensive, but it will become cheaper and I suspect quite a few of the current major brands will be caught out because they cannot suddenly change to the cheaper 3D printing technology. 3D printing companies will have the advantage that they can produce a much more diverse range of figures (because they don't need moulds and 3D designs can be tweaked relatively easily.)

Just see what MiniNature is already doing. I wouldn't be surprised if a hobbyist or small start-up company is going to be the first to mass-produce animal figures and outcompetes many of the current players. Once good, coloured 3D printing becomes feasible, I believe we'll also see more of a distinction between animal toys that are sturdy and look good for children (e.g., big head and eyes) and very realistic and more expensive figures for collectors, probably often made by hobbyists (again, see MiniNature).

But I think collecting will become very different. 3D printing technology will allow for an almost limitless number of different poses and scales, so it's going to be impossible to collect everything. There will be lots of figures that are very rare (because so many different ones are printed), but at the same time, they may never really go out of production, because they can be printed whenever needed.

That's my 2 cents. I can't wait!
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 1:16 pm

Those are all really interesting points Roger and I'm sure that this will happen in the future! I agree with you that once 3D printing starts, like the wonderful figures by MiniNature, we will see endless animals of many shapes and sizes, which will certainly mean collecting all is difficult- but then more likely you will find the exact figure you like.
I too am excited to see other views!
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 3:27 pm

I doubt that many of the popular brands today will exist in 50 years. Schleich and Bullyland are on the way out already. Safari, Collecta and Papo are doing well but I doubt all will be around in 50 years.
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 3:29 pm

Really, that's interesting to know you definitely think this! Shocked
I hope that if they aren't here, there will be another brand instead! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 3:53 pm

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Really, that's interesting to know you definitely think this! Shocked
I hope that if they aren't here, there will be another brand instead! Very Happy
I think that new companies will appear, but brands could become more specialized.
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 4:17 pm

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Really, that's interesting to know you definitely think this! Shocked
I hope that if they aren't here, there will be another brand instead! Very Happy
I think that new companies will appear, but brands could become more specialized.
Yes, I can see that, like Schleich with their fantasy figures and I think some people were saying CollectA this year with their horses and dinosaurs!
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 4:24 pm

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Really, that's interesting to know you definitely think this! Shocked
I hope that if they aren't here, there will be another brand instead! Very Happy
I think that new companies will appear, but brands could become more specialized.
Yes, I can see that, like Schleich with their fantasy figures and I think some people were saying CollectA this year with their horses and dinosaurs!
Schleich fantasy is great, I used to collect some of it when I was younger. Collecta is doing well with their diverse dinosaurs and prehistoric life.
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 4:26 pm

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Really, that's interesting to know you definitely think this! Shocked
I hope that if they aren't here, there will be another brand instead! Very Happy
I think that new companies will appear, but brands could become more specialized.
Yes, I can see that, like Schleich with their fantasy figures and I think some people were saying CollectA this year with their horses and dinosaurs!
Schleich fantasy is great, I used to collect some of it when I was younger. Collecta is doing well with their diverse dinosaurs and prehistoric life.
Yes definitely! I have quite a few Schleich fantasy figures!
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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyMon Nov 16, 2020 8:05 pm

This I think is a very complex concept with lots of issues and thus many possibilities.

Safari actually wasn't doing well at the beginning of this year, they sent a plea to loyal customers to "help them out". Since then I haven't recieved another such plea so I HOPE they are doing better. Bully has struggled for several years now, really only producing their disney line faithfully. Not sure how the other companies have handled the pandemic yet, I expect we will see it reflected in their releases in the coming years (either reduced or reviving older molds).

I've felt for years, with a brand like Schleich especially, that the hobby is polarizing. Companies will either stick with the concept of childrens toys (releasing play sets, articulated models, and lower quality products, as well as focusing on specific toy lines like fantasy or horses etc.) Or redesign themselves into collector quality pieces (higher expenses, fewer releases on average but higher quality over all). Honestly, the toy market is likely a safer bet as collectors are more niche. I see these sorts of changes already present in many brands with heavy focuses on dinos and horses (injudiciously conceptualized as little boy and little girl style toy lines [keep in mind I disagree with this idea, but still feel most people think of these toys that way]) or with higher numbers of sets and fantasy focuses becoming more prevalent.

I could see with technology in 3D printing moving ever forward it become cheaper and easily attainable for future productions. Materials is an interetsing concept Alain... I would love to see a change into something friendlier but that would also affect costs.

At any rate, I hope it only gets better from here but its hard to tell. Brands will come and go and evolve for better or worse with time. Schleich was cartoony, hit a golden age, fell of a cliff so to speak, and in my opinion has slowly started to come back in some ways. These are mere growing pains. All will grow or go bankrupt eventually. But I will support anyone who can put an honest effort into representing the animal world for the world to appreciate.

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PostSubject: Re: The Future...   The Future... EmptyTue Nov 17, 2020 3:15 am

Oh really! I do hope too that Safari have sorted themselves out now! And I agree with you, it's difficult to appeal to both adults and children, and so, like you, I feel there will be a divide in the future. But I'm sure that Schleich in their golden age, was still loved by many children, when I was younger I still appreciated the better models. So maybe and hopefully, a brand may find a middle way to please both!
And your last point is interesting, maybe Schleich will realise their mistake and correct it before they go too far wrong... looking at the dogs for 2021, I'm tempted to say they're better than the Schnauzer and dachshund they released recently...
And I completely agree with your last line! bounce Very Happy
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