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PostSubject: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 5:17 am

Here are some AAA additions for ToyAnimal.Info.
Photos from various eBay sellers.

A deer buck, the same mold as the AAA/ELC Fallow Deer buck except differently painted. This has a similar dark-brown and white color scheme to photos I’ve seen on eBay of “White-Tailed Deer Fawn Jumping” and “White-Tailed Deer Fawn Standing”. The color scheme is different from the “White-Tailed Deer Buck” and the “White-Tailed Deer Fawn Lying”. Most importantly, the antlers of this mold are shaped rather like those of the Mule Deer (and therefore a little inaccurate for the flat-antlered Fallow Deer that shares the mold), the tail is slender and mostly white with a dark tip, and the rump has a large amount of white. This new addition is a Mule Deer, and by extension the jumping and standing fawns (whose entries are yet to be created, but are linked through “AAA Deer”), which have a similar same color scheme, must also also be Mule Deer as well.

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White-tailed Deer Fawn Standing Mule Deer Fawn Standing
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White-tailed Deer Fawn Jumping Mule Deer Fawn Jumping
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“AAA Salmon Baby” is not a salmonid. It should be categorized as Arctic Cod, or at the very least, an unidentified Gadidae.

Next to the “Animal” descriptor on the AAA Warthog Boar and Warthog Piglet entries, “Warthog” is misspelled “Whartog”.

The lighter version (Snow Leopard) of the AAA Leopard Sneaking is contained within the entry for the Leopard version of the mold. On the other hand the other Snow Leopard recolors of AAA Leopards are given their own entries. A separate entry should be given for the “AAA Snow Leopard Sneaking”

In the main AAA entry, the Tigers are shown as a subsection under “Snow Leopards”, which isn’t correct.

The AAA Canada Goose has the shape of a Cackling Goose.

The AAA Iguana and Iguana Large are mislabeled. They are not based on Green Iguanas but are cast from specimens of Chinese Water Dragons.

The AAA Chameleon is most likely based on or cast from a Mediterranean Chameleon.

Create an entry for the AAA Spiny-tailed Skink :
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Photo for the AAA Grizzly Bear (the same mold as the Black Bear):
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Create entries for the AAA Asian Green Mussel, Pacific Oyster, and Mantis Shrimp and add Gwangi’s and Brontodocus’s photos of them to the entries.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 am

These suggestions are very helpful and I will edit what is possible according with your suggestions but we cannot use pictures of EBAY sellers on TAW without their permission.
Starting with deer, I believe you are aware that AAA has a white-tailed deer buck mould, you can see it here.
It is not surprising they use the fallow deer mould with other colors to represent other species but it won't be easy to get on TAW once these variations are so many. I will think about the best way to do it.
Fawns are a different question because both fawn moulds were really used as fawns to many species, from deers to gazelles and in this case it is really the painting that determines what it is.

Are you sure about the salmon? It is marketed as a baby salmon and it looks like a salmon to me, not an Arctic cod at all. Could you be more explicit on it?

Warthog mispelling is fixed now.

I've never found the lighter leopard marketed as a snow leopard and it is not painted like the other snow leopards but I accepted your suggestion and it is now listed as a different figure.

Easy fix for Tigers, just a (*) missing, very well spotted, you have editor eyes. Laughing

What do you suggest we should do about the Canada goose, to put a note?

I agree about the iguanas, Chinese water dragon corresponds perfectly to the mould and it is an Iguania although not an Iguana.
To be fair, I never worked exaustively in this page of AAA reptiles, it is still needing a big reformulation and that's one of the sections I'd left for a more reptile versed editor.

Chameleon is correctly identified once the common chameleon is the Mediterranean chameleon. To turn our editing work more coerent, we use the common names used at the Wikipedia. What is missing really is a page for that species and I will do it.

About the remaining, again the same question, do we have Gwangi’s and Brontodocus’s permission to use their photos?

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 1:13 pm

Wonderful deer, it's fantastic that you are helping TAW! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 2:33 pm

Yes. I know there is an existing separate mold for the White-tailed Deer Buck.
The fish has 3 dorsal and 2 anal fins, and the shape of the head and tail are those of a cod.
Salmonids have 1 each of these fins and an adipose fin.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 2:39 pm

You could change the species of the AAA Canada Goose to Cackling Goose, and also add a note on why it’s not Canada Goose.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 3:01 pm

OK, you told in your post the salmon baby and this one you show is identified as salmon young.
So I only checked the baby that is surely a salmon.
About the youngster, I suspect you are right, it is not a salmon for sure.
I will study the Canada goose question.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 3:50 pm

Ok. I got permission for you to use the photos of the buck and the grizzly bear on ToyAnimal.info.
The buck should be added as its own page listed as a Mule Deer under AAA Deer, and noted as the same mold as the Fallow Deer. The Grizzly Bear already has a page here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 3:50 pm

I’ll tell you more once I get permission for the others.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 4:19 pm

It is very kind from you but I am not sure I feel confortable using pictures when the permission was not directly given to me. However, all your contribtion here is being precious.
About the Canada/Cackling goose question, I've read all this page and it was not enough to ilucidate me.
Until 2004 both species were considered a single species, Canada goose and I think this figure is previous to 2004. So, if it looks more like a cackling duck, it may be accidental. Do you have any clear evidence that it is a cackling duck and not a Canada goose? It seems their subspecies and subpopulations show a huge diversity and it is hard to tell them apart.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 4:35 pm

Thanks for reminding me. I know that the Cackling/Canada Goose split took place fairly recently, and I thought about that with regards to the figure (obviously first made before the split), but forgot this when I typed it up.


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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 4:36 pm

I guess calling it a Cackling Canada Goose (the common name of the former subspecies) would be more period-correct.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 5:20 pm

I will let it as a Canada goose but if we ever open a page for cackling goose, I may link the figure to both pages. I think the model is interchangeable.
I would love to enrich the deer page but it is still poor but I will remember this topic as long as new figures are added. I think your suggestion for a mule deer is a good alternative to list these variations and distinguish them from the fallow deer. I am not so convinced about the antlers but the painting is almost surely to represent a mule deer and we know that AAA uses the same figures to represent different species. Using the fawns will be a good strategy to determine the species of the buck with similar painting. I open links to them to not forget this important variation.
We have a dedicated topic to these TAW questions but as those here posted are many and I need some time to take care of all of them, I will preserve this discussion here. Also i will put the catalogue pages to serve as a reference for me or any other editor.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 5:28 pm

So, when are you going to create an entry for the Mule Deer Buck?
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 5:52 pm

Birdsage wrote:
So, when are you going to create an entry for the Mule Deer Buck?

The link is open but is there any way that the picture owner gives permission to use his pictures on forum or directly to me?
If he is a collector, wy don't you ask him to join our community.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 6:01 pm

This isn’t a collector. Just a regular seller. Besides, if I get a screenshot of the permission message, is that enough proof?[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Birdsage wrote:
This isn’t a collector. Just a regular seller. Besides, if I get a screenshot of the permission message, is that enough proof?[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

I shouldn't do it but your effort deserves some results. Please send me a pm, I save it and I credit the seller on TAW.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptySat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 am

OK, not my cup of tea but the Mule deer is now on TAW until someone replace for more adjusted ones. Meanwhile they will serve perfectly as reference.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptySat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 am

Thanks very much!!!
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptySat Mar 13, 2021 12:14 am

Birdsage wrote:
Thanks very much!!!

Thanks to you too and I hope you continue trying to find what needs to be fixed. It is a neverending Wiki and every help is apreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptySun Mar 21, 2021 3:16 am

I’ve finally acquired the Mule Deer, and taken original photos. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

I’ve also acquired a Grizzly Bear by AAA. On the wiki, it’s listed in this entry (https://toyanimal.info/wiki/AAA_Grizzly_Bear) but missing photos and other data.
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 1:41 am

Great and congratulations! I added your grizzly and replaced the main mule deer icture on TAW. Just one each for now, I may use more later when my batteries are recharged. Sleep
Wonderful portrait of this bear!!!

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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 1:43 am

On the page for “Mule Deer” the new photo is placed incorrectly.
Also, they are not correctly linked on the page “AAA Deer”
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 12:03 pm

Birdsage wrote:
On the page for “Mule Deer” the new photo is placed incorrectly.
Also, they are not correctly linked on the page “AAA Deer”

Everything looks correct to me and nobody edited it meanwhile.
Could you please access it through this link and tell me if you keep finding these mistakes? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 3:27 pm

The problems are still there:
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PostSubject: Re: TAI Additions and Corrections   TAI Additions and Corrections EmptyTue Mar 23, 2021 4:56 pm

OK, I told you I needed new batteries and I see I replaced the picture of the fawn standing instead of the buck. It is fixed now. What about the list? It seems all correct to me.

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