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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:22 pm | |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45781
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:26 pm | |
| So much interesting for me _________________ www.spielzeugtiere.com STS members can merge Andreas |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:48 pm | |
| We really cannot find many information about EMPIRE MADE. It seems they made also Nativity sets. However, it is very nice to see these models with a brand name instead of the traditional Hong Kong marking. |
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Chris Sweetman
Country/State : Nottinghamshire England Age : 68 Joined : 2012-04-10 Posts : 1392
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:52 pm | |
| 'Empire Made' is a generic term for 'made in Hong Kong' and was used for all sorts of products that where made in the former 'Crown Colony of Hong Kong'. So, 'Empire Made' isn't a single company. _________________ Chris |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7264
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:50 pm | |
| never seen before!.. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:59 pm | |
| - Chris Sweetman wrote:
- 'Empire Made' is a generic term for 'made in Hong Kong' and was used for all sorts of products that where made in the former 'Crown Colony of Hong Kong'. So, 'Empire Made' isn't a single company.
Thanks Chris! I was almost opening a page on TAW for a brand called EMPIRE MADE. |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:15 pm | |
| You find so many goodies These certainly have historical value on top of their charm @Roger , IMHO information like this is great to have in TAW also, - so I think you should make a page that explains _________________ SUSANNE |
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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:59 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Chris Sweetman wrote:
- 'Empire Made' is a generic term for 'made in Hong Kong' and was used for all sorts of products that where made in the former 'Crown Colony of Hong Kong'. So, 'Empire Made' isn't a single company.
Thanks Chris! I was almost opening a page on TAW for a brand called EMPIRE MADE. Hello Roger, somebody had made the side "Empire" on TAW long before! There is a side "HONGKONG" on TAW with about 35 companies. What about a side "SINGAPORE" on TAW? I found some pictures of a box from the company "BLUEBOX". Because I controll my collection of animals and found nearly all (23x) models marked with "SINGAPORE". I have this animals also marked with some other companies (NYLINT TOYS and ZZ RIESEN and so on). I want to show this next time and the result as a list. Benno. |
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Chris Sweetman
Country/State : Nottinghamshire England Age : 68 Joined : 2012-04-10 Posts : 1392
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:44 am | |
| Benno, it is amazing that all the toy animals you have photographed are clearly 'inspired' by Britains products. And to prove it you included an original Britains young giraffe, second from left, - one of my favourite models from this company. _________________ Chris |
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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:58 pm | |
| - Chris Sweetman wrote:
- Benno, it is amazing that all the toy animals you have photographed are clearly 'inspired' by Britains products. And to prove it you included an original Britains young giraffe, second from left, - one of my favourite models from this company.
Hello Chris, thank you very much for your information. I have some animals of the company "BRITAINS Ltd." and I have a lot of animals marked with "SINGAPORE", "HONGKONG" and "CHINA". A lot of the animals looks like a copy of the animals of the company "BRITAINS". See my pictures. I want to make a list of the animals which are looks like the same but where sold by different company/trade mark. I will present the result on an on page "SINGAPORE" on TAW. I have to photograh now many animals. I hope you (and all others) leave a comment on my result with your informations. Benno. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:02 pm | |
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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:14 pm | |
| Hello Roger, I have found about 30 wild animals with SINGAPORE marked and I found about 10 farm animals with SINGAPORE. I would be happy to show this animals on a side on TAW and I can show some SINGAPORE animals marked with other brand names. Benno. |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:47 pm | |
| - Babdo wrote:
- Hello Roger,
I have found about 30 wild animals with SINGAPORE marked and I found about 10 farm animals with SINGAPORE. I would be happy to show this animals on a side on TAW and I can show some SINGAPORE animals marked with other brand names. Benno. Benno, I opened a category for Singapore and a page for Unknown Maker Singapore. It is just a draft to serve as guide to your editing work. https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Unknown_Maker_Singapore I listed the pangolin just for your reference, I don't have it yet unfortunately. Let me know if is it what you mean. |
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Chris Sweetman
Country/State : Nottinghamshire England Age : 68 Joined : 2012-04-10 Posts : 1392
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:57 pm | |
| I have a few made in Singapore plastic animals and one of these is a copy of the Britains Adult Kangaroo.
I have to dig it out of one of my toy cupboards. _________________ Chris
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:33 pm | |
| Maybe it worth mentioning on Singapore's TAW page that these figures are considered copies among collectors or at least to mention that they are inspired in Britains models. I think it started when Britains opened a factory in Hong Kong in 1966 or so. |
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smallscaleworld
Country/State : Hampshire, UK Age : 60 Joined : 2014-01-04 Posts : 279
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:53 am | |
| The 'SINGAPORE' marked models are usually Redbox or Blue Box for generic pocket-money sets and were manufactured in one of their two plants there at Kallang Industrial estate or Toa Payoh, there seems to be a rule - hand painted = Blue Box, airbrushed = Redbox, but I'm not sure it's that simple. _________________ Small Scale World Airfix Figures Facebook - Hugh Walter eBay - smallscaleworld
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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:24 pm | |
| - smallscaleworld wrote:
- The 'SINGAPORE' marked models are usually Redbox or Blue Box for generic pocket-money sets and were manufactured in one of their two plants there at Kallang Industrial estate or Toa Payoh, there seems to be a rule - hand painted = Blue Box, airbrushed = Redbox, but I'm not sure it's that simple.
Hello smallscaleworld, thank you very much for your informations. I read in the internet about Bluebox and Redbox, but I never find an explanation about the differenz. I work on the Singapore animals and I think some animal copies were in the beginning TIMPO, but I first must find the right Figures. I also find many animals sometimes marked with "Singapore" and sometimes marked with "HongKong". One animal is marked with both "Singapore" and "HongKong". I will show this next time when I have time and good pictures. Benno. |
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smallscaleworld
Country/State : Hampshire, UK Age : 60 Joined : 2014-01-04 Posts : 279
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:36 am | |
| - Babdo wrote:
- Hello smallscaleworld,
thank you very much for your informations. I read in the internet about Bluebox and Redbox, but I never find an explanation about the differenz. I work on the Singapore animals and I think some animal copies were in the beginning TIMPO, but I first must find the right Figures. I also find many animals sometimes marked with "Singapore" and sometimes marked with "HongKong". One animal is marked with both "Singapore" and "HongKong". I will show this next time when I have time and good pictures. Benno. It's an almost impossible task Babdo, I've been collecting the animals (and a few sets) and saving all the set images I see online, and you think you've established a 'rule' such as the - airbrushing being Redbox - one I mentioned, then you find a late Blue Box set with airbrushed figures! or you think you've worked out the difference between R & BB monkeys or elephants and then one turns-up in the other's packaging! Tai Sang, the parent company, started with animals in 1954, long before the Singapore plants were operational, and which the owner describes as very small, they had several factories in Hong Kong (both on the Island and in the New Territories), and while I know both of the Singapore factories I mentioned were Blue Box branded on the buildings (and in workers memories), there was a third somewhere in Singapore I haven't pined-down on the map yet, while more Redbox sets seem to carry the Singapore mark. Product from all the factories or leftovers from previous jobs/contracts could have found their way into any set to complete an order, whole mould-tools or individual cavities of larger tools may have been transferred (hence your Singapore and HK marked one?) between plants, or between countries, while lots of lesser companies were producing the endless copies and sub-copies, some of which may have been bought-in by Tai-Sang or its subsidiaries! However, the more you look, the easier it is to find the 'rules', and tie things into specific sets or lines, so I can only wish you luck with you search! H _________________ Small Scale World Airfix Figures Facebook - Hugh Walter eBay - smallscaleworld
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Babdo
Country/State : Deutschland Age : 68 Joined : 2018-01-31 Posts : 481
| Subject: Re: Wild Animals marked with EMPIRE MADE found Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 am | |
| Hello smallscaleworld, thank you very much for your informations. I hope I can find some new informations, but I think I can not solve the problem of who is who or who made what. I have listed all Singapore marked animals I have and now I search the equal "BRITAINS" or "TIMPO" or "UNKNOWN" animal which was the original figure. Benno. |
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