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lucky luke
Country/State : FRANCE Saint-Louis Age : 62 Joined : 2010-07-17 Posts : 6298
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:42 am | |
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| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35845
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:46 am | |
| Willy thanks for adding some pictures of more lynxes previously released. Do you have the catalogue of the Hausser Elastolin with the lynx? Are you sure it is an Iberian??? About the Schleich I know that you know that it is not also an Iberian but I understand why you call him in that way! With such a cute face and large head we can also call it a regular cat! |
| | | Lasersword1973
Country/State : Philippines Age : 50 Joined : 2010-04-04 Posts : 705
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:08 pm | |
| That's a Bobcat! An awesome figure plus astounding photos equals a masterpiece. Congrats and thanks for the wonderful photos, Christophe. You have made my eyes locked on this Bobcat! |
| | | Defteros
Country/State : Mexico Age : 43 Joined : 2011-12-27 Posts : 92
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:34 pm | |
| Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt. Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. |
| | | scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:05 pm | |
| - Defteros wrote:
- Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt.
Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. My own view is that the Mojo lynx is by far the strongest, and that includes comparing it to the recently released CollectA. The worst, however, is the Papo. I can't even buy it for the sake of collecting. It is just a bizarre model. The Safari bobcat, by contrast, I quite like; even though you are exactly right that the face (and nose especially) are very unfortunate. It really is a mystery why, other than the Mojo, companies do not seem to be able to sculpt an impressive Lynx/Bobcat. Very strange. |
| | | Elros Alvar
Country/State : Spain Age : 25 Joined : 2012-02-06 Posts : 3284
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:53 pm | |
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| | | Defteros
Country/State : Mexico Age : 43 Joined : 2011-12-27 Posts : 92
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:07 pm | |
| - scot(t) wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt.
Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. My own view is that the Mojo lynx is by far the strongest, and that includes comparing it to the recently released CollectA.
The worst, however, is the Papo. I can't even buy it for the sake of collecting. It is just a bizarre model. The Safari bobcat, by contrast, I quite like; even though you are exactly right that the face (and nose especially) are very unfortunate. It really is a mystery why, other than the Mojo, companies do not seem to be able to sculpt an impressive Lynx/Bobcat. Very strange.
I agree with you, the Mojo lynx is by far the best of the bunch, just that it looks more like a Bobcat than a Iberian Lynx. |
| | | Elros Alvar
Country/State : Spain Age : 25 Joined : 2012-02-06 Posts : 3284
| | | | scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:42 pm | |
| - Defteros wrote:
I agree with you, the Mojo lynx is by far the best of the bunch, just that it looks more like a Bobcat than a Iberian Lynx. That's interesting Defteros. (I don't know enough about the differences to have noticed that.) In thinking about bad lynxes (and bobcats), I totally forgot about one that (I think) is even worse than the Papo, the Bullyland. Maybe I got a bad model, but here is a picture of mine. I really agree with you that it is very strange why all these companies have had such a hard time with the lynx in particular! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]It's so awful that I am actually a bit attached to it. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35845
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:55 pm | |
| - Defteros wrote:
- scot(t) wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt.
Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. My own view is that the Mojo lynx is by far the strongest, and that includes comparing it to the recently released CollectA.
The worst, however, is the Papo. I can't even buy it for the sake of collecting. It is just a bizarre model. The Safari bobcat, by contrast, I quite like; even though you are exactly right that the face (and nose especially) are very unfortunate. It really is a mystery why, other than the Mojo, companies do not seem to be able to sculpt an impressive Lynx/Bobcat. Very strange.
I agree with you, the Mojo lynx is by far the best of the bunch, just that it looks more like a Bobcat than a Iberian Lynx. Really? You are surely also used with bobcats, take a look although pics are small! Let me only tell you that the Mojo Iberian lynx looks more like a bobcat than Safari's, but that's another thought. Sorry Harriet, the beautiful picture is yours! Scott, look at your lynx with Bullyland eyes and you'll find it nice! |
| | | scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:28 am | |
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| | | Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21190
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:09 am | |
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| | | scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:24 am | |
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| | | Defteros
Country/State : Mexico Age : 43 Joined : 2011-12-27 Posts : 92
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:46 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- scot(t) wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt.
Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. My own view is that the Mojo lynx is by far the strongest, and that includes comparing it to the recently released CollectA.
The worst, however, is the Papo. I can't even buy it for the sake of collecting. It is just a bizarre model. The Safari bobcat, by contrast, I quite like; even though you are exactly right that the face (and nose especially) are very unfortunate. It really is a mystery why, other than the Mojo, companies do not seem to be able to sculpt an impressive Lynx/Bobcat. Very strange.
I agree with you, the Mojo lynx is by far the best of the bunch, just that it looks more like a Bobcat than a Iberian Lynx. Really? You are surely also used with bobcats, take a look although pics are small! Let me only tell you that the Mojo Iberian lynx looks more like a bobcat than Safari's, but that's another thought.
Sorry Harriet, the beautiful picture is yours! Scott, look at your lynx with Bullyland eyes and you'll find it nice! Glad you put pictures to illustrate my point better and compare them: 1.- The ruff of iberian lynx is the largest among lynxes, the ruff in the figure both in size and shape is more like that of a bobcat. 2.- The ear tufts in iberian lynx are also long, the figure lacks ear tufts, so is more similar to the small ear tufts of bobcats. 3.- The color of the figure is more similar to the color of some varieties of bobcat; iberian lynx is predominantly greyish 4.- The markings in the figure are just small spots, more like those of a bobcat, while the iberian lynx not only has spots but small stripes too. 5.- Look at both animals profiles, the muzzle of iberian lynx is more rounded than the figure 6.- And finally, look at the gait in both real animals pics and compare them with the figure gait...notice something funny? |
| | | Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21190
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:53 am | |
| - Defteros wrote:
Glad you put pictures to illustrate my point better and compare them: 1.- The ruff of iberian lynx is the largest among lynxes, the ruff in the figure both in size and shape is more like that of a bobcat. 2.- The ear tufts in iberian lynx are also long, the figure lacks ear tufts, so is more similar to the small ear tufts of bobcats. 3.- The color of the figure is more similar to the color of some varieties of bobcat; iberian lynx is predominantly greyish 4.- The markings in the figure are just small spots, more like those of a bobcat, while the iberian lynx not only has spots but small stripes too. 5.- Look at both animals profiles, the muzzle of iberian lynx is more rounded than the figure 6.- And finally, look at the gait in both real animals pics and compare them with the figure gait...notice something funny? Holy chameleon we need to make a new one ! Seriously about the walking pose... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]It seems Iberian lynxes are able to amble along About the coat, I agree something like the pic below would be splendid, maybe a variation for Susanne one day [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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| | | Sumo
Country/State : Norway Age : 43 Joined : 2010-12-19 Posts : 1066
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:31 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
Scott, look at your lynx with Bullyland eyes and you'll find it nice! Oh yes, this. Every single Bullyland I've seen has been... well, bad. Like zombie apocalypse bad. *shudders* I'm also very glad to see the Safari's standing still - I've said this before, but there really are too many walking lynxes in almost the same pose. Nice if you want to make a "woodland conga line" diorama, but a little boring. (I know generalized poses=versatility and 4 point stance = stability, but...) _________________ Stuff you should be reading: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35845
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:28 pm | |
| - Defteros wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- scot(t) wrote:
- Defteros wrote:
- Wow just wow, every company that makes a lynx figurine fails miserably, even with tons of pictures available for every species of lynx, they always manage to fail at getting the proportions, head shape and color right. Even Papo that has produced the most accurate big cat figurines failed on their attempt.
Just look at the face of this bobcat, looks like a diseased/injured animal. What a shame, the catalog pic looked promising, but the final product is awful. My own view is that the Mojo lynx is by far the strongest, and that includes comparing it to the recently released CollectA.
The worst, however, is the Papo. I can't even buy it for the sake of collecting. It is just a bizarre model. The Safari bobcat, by contrast, I quite like; even though you are exactly right that the face (and nose especially) are very unfortunate. It really is a mystery why, other than the Mojo, companies do not seem to be able to sculpt an impressive Lynx/Bobcat. Very strange.
I agree with you, the Mojo lynx is by far the best of the bunch, just that it looks more like a Bobcat than a Iberian Lynx. Really? You are surely also used with bobcats, take a look although pics are small! Let me only tell you that the Mojo Iberian lynx looks more like a bobcat than Safari's, but that's another thought.
Sorry Harriet, the beautiful picture is yours! Scott, look at your lynx with Bullyland eyes and you'll find it nice! Glad you put pictures to illustrate my point better and compare them: 1.- The ruff of iberian lynx is the largest among lynxes, the ruff in the figure both in size and shape is more like that of a bobcat. 2.- The ear tufts in iberian lynx are also long, the figure lacks ear tufts, so is more similar to the small ear tufts of bobcats. 3.- The color of the figure is more similar to the color of some varieties of bobcat; iberian lynx is predominantly greyish 4.- The markings in the figure are just small spots, more like those of a bobcat, while the iberian lynx not only has spots but small stripes too. 5.- Look at both animals profiles, the muzzle of iberian lynx is more rounded than the figure 6.- And finally, look at the gait in both real animals pics and compare them with the figure gait...notice something funny? Very interesting of reading, Defteros! I agree with you in some points and it is a pleasure when someone shows everything with such objectivity! I agree with you when you say that Mojo lynx is by far the best! 1. The ruff is indeed a little short for a large male Iberian lynx, anyway not small at all and maybe a little large for a bobcat. The shape is somewhat between what is usual in both species. But, they are black painted in sideburns configuration what is typical from Iberian lynxes and completly different from the markings of a bobcat. 2. I agree completly. No doubt that it is an important characteristics of the creature and that's a shame that Mojo, like other brands, had troubles to feature the tufts correctly. But you know surely that with safety rules is not possible to introduce these minimal details in such tiny mass produced figures. 3. Iberian lynxes are not predominantly greyish, many are yellowish and also a little reddish, The spots are more random placed than it looks, sometimes you can see some strips that are fused spots but many times they hardly appear, also there are to main kind of patterns, the one from Doñana population with very large spots heavily marked and another with several small spots. Bobcats present more variation in color, sometimes mixing them, remember that there are several subspecies of bobcats and much more specimens in the wild. Strips or barred parts are indeed characteristics of bobcats, mainly in legs and it is very obvious in Mexican bobcats. 5. Again I agree with you although it doesn't represent a difference between species. That's Mojo own design! 6. That's another interesting point. I enjoy the remark, although Christophe already replied here? Let me only introduce another point, bobcats have bobbed tails like Iberian lynxes, although the former present barred parts in the tails, only the tip is really black and some white below. You can see perfectly that the tail of the figure, although simplified, is clearly of an IBerian lynx and doesn't show the characteristics of the American species. My conclusion is clear that it represents very nicely an IBerian lynx. I'm tempted to say that I don't know a better lynx figure even in vintage brands. The lack of tufts makes us think in a bobcat but not much more than it. Also both species are really similar and I hope someone repaint a Mojo lynx in a bobcat! |
| | | HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:24 am | |
| - Kikimalou wrote:
- About the coat, I agree something like the pic below would be splendid, maybe a variation for Susanne one day
That would be nice I agree the paintwork isn't great but they do have to simplify paintwork don't they. _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | scot(t)
Country/State : USA Age : 56 Joined : 2012-03-03 Posts : 2997
| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:26 am | |
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| | | JackyLovertjex
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| Subject: Re: Bobcat 2012 Wild Safari North American Wildlife, walkaround by Kikimalou Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:16 am | |
| Perhaps ana needs to make the perfect lynx? |
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