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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptySun Feb 09, 2020 7:44 pm

dewlaps are common on several iguanids and agamids. This is probably the bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of something. I doubt you will get an ID based on this sculpt and color combination, but my guess is that it was modeled originally after an agamid of sorts.
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Thanks I will look at agamids, I should have pointed out that I wasn't going for the colour.

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PostSubject: Papo and Schleich sea turtles : two different species ?   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2020 7:38 pm

Hi everyone.

I just got Papo sea turtle that has been identified as a loggerhead sea turtle on Toy Animal Wiki while Schleich's is tagged as a green one.
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I just wanted to know how you identified these two species from those two figures because they really look similar to me scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2020 8:55 pm

Well, Papo figure is officially marketed as a loggerhead sea turtle.
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The Schleich figure was simply marketed as "Cheloniidae" but you can find a walk around at the Animal Toy Forum where the green sea turtle identification is used and Andre, a very viable source, confirms it.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2020 11:03 pm

Thanks Roger.

I can add another criteria that was not mentioned in these topics : the green turtle has a round beak while the loggerhead's one is a bit hooked and that's clearly visible on Papo's figure.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 4:26 pm

which species is this wild small cat according to you please?..

It's just marqued "CHINA" under its bell..

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here with a lynx from Nayab: same mark, sculpting and painting:

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and here with the lynx from Starlux for size comparison (scale 1/30?)

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 4:30 pm

looks like one of the Old World lynx species, but with a tail that is too long. Another victim of combining morphologies Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 4:36 pm

Thank you Blaine but as you can see, the Brand produiced accurate lynx at this scale with long ears and short tail.. so..? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 5:11 pm

I believe we tried to find a species fo that figure several years ago and we haven't found it. To me it looks a caracal but spotted like a serval.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 5:12 pm

A mix between a lynx and an African jungle cat is my guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 6:02 pm

I think the take-home message is that over-analyzing 'chinamals' can be a fruitless endeveour...
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 6:06 pm

Rogério, I think ears and legs are too short and tail is too long for caracal or serval. Adam, you're right, the general proportions are the ones of a jungle cat (Felis chaus) but not the spotted coat! So,..
wether it's an inaccurate existant cat,
wether it's an asiatic wild cat ( Felis silvestris ornata) whose body proportions, ears, tail and fur pattern are similar but it would be surprising for this species is not well known from most of peoples!.. Shocked

I am afraid Blaine gave the good conclusion..

thanks to you three for your contribution! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Mar 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Obviously not an asiatic wild cat. Inaccurate existant (or generic non-existant) lynx is the figure, and Blaine's sentence is the most juicious one about this figure.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 6:43 pm

I also agree with Blaine but i think a jungle cat could be the best match for that.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 10:49 pm

Ok I shall repaint it on that way!..

thank you Andreas! :)
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I have these butterflies I got last summer and need help identifying them as real life species. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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I cant help too much, luckily we have some insect experts here. The last one to me appears to be a type of swallowtail.

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I did believe the last two were swallowtails of some sort of swallowtail, but the first one I'm not sure about genus or species.

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Advicot wrote:
I have these butterflies I got last summer and need help identifying them as real life species. [url=https://servimg.com/view/20187186/61]

These butterfly sculpts have been used several times, including the K&M Butterfly Nature Tube and the Insect Lore Big Bunch-o-Butterflies.

The bottom one (which I have from the Insect Lore set) I have attributed to Papilio machaon, but the other two are not attributable to real species. For the top one, it looks like they took the K&M Aglais io but took substantial creative liberties with the color. But honestly, no hope for the top and middle options.
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Ah that's a shame as the two other species in the bucket were a Diana Morpho and a True Forrester, I was able to identify them by your work Blaine.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Apr 28, 2020 10:54 am

Any ideas what species the Nayab giraffe is... I believe it's a cape giraffe but I am not too sure (I really don't want it to be generic)

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Apr 28, 2020 3:14 pm

A Cordofan giraffe, I guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 15 EmptyTue Apr 28, 2020 3:38 pm

A Kordofan giraffe is better than my cape giraffe guess, thank you Roger :)

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Caracal wrote:
scratch what species is this?.. on Ebay, indications about Geowolrd set "ice age" it's from, "dog-bear" is mentionned but the short face, the digitigrad feet, the long tail ended by a tuft and the little mane are rather the ones of a cave lion!.. Shocked

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I have this one in smaller scale. It is a cave lion.

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Thank you QuollMate, it's also what I think! :)
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