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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:44 pm | |
| dewlaps are common on several iguanids and agamids. This is probably the bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of something. I doubt you will get an ID based on this sculpt and color combination, but my guess is that it was modeled originally after an agamid of sorts. |
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Steve170
Country/State : United Kingdom Age : 37 Joined : 2011-11-22 Posts : 716
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:55 pm | |
| Thanks I will look at agamids, I should have pointed out that I wasn't going for the colour. _________________ More pictures of my Collection... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ...Latest update 08/03/20 |
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RtasVadumee
Country/State : France Age : 32 Joined : 2020-02-09 Posts : 1375
| Subject: Papo and Schleich sea turtles : two different species ? Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:38 pm | |
| Hi everyone. I just got Papo sea turtle that has been identified as a loggerhead sea turtle on Toy Animal Wiki while Schleich's is tagged as a green one. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I just wanted to know how you identified these two species from those two figures because they really look similar to me |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:55 pm | |
| Well, Papo figure is officially marketed as a loggerhead sea turtle. Christophe also confirms it and explains why in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]The Schleich figure was simply marketed as "Cheloniidae" but you can find a walk around at the Animal Toy Forum where the green sea turtle identification is used and Andre, a very viable source, confirms it. |
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RtasVadumee
Country/State : France Age : 32 Joined : 2020-02-09 Posts : 1375
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:03 pm | |
| Thanks Roger.
I can add another criteria that was not mentioned in these topics : the green turtle has a round beak while the loggerhead's one is a bit hooked and that's clearly visible on Papo's figure. _________________ Schleich 370 CollectA 76 Papo 61 Safari 24 Yujin 15 Southlands 12 Mojo 14 Maia&Borges 5 Bullyland 1 Recur 1 Homemade 3 Bootleg 1 Total 582
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7252
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:26 pm | |
| which species is this wild small cat according to you please?.. It's just marqued "CHINA" under its bell.. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]here with a lynx from Nayab: same mark, sculpting and painting: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]and here with the lynx from Starlux for size comparison (scale 1/30?) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:30 pm | |
| looks like one of the Old World lynx species, but with a tail that is too long. Another victim of combining morphologies |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7252
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:36 pm | |
| Thank you Blaine but as you can see, the Brand produiced accurate lynx at this scale with long ears and short tail.. so..? |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:11 pm | |
| I believe we tried to find a species fo that figure several years ago and we haven't found it. To me it looks a caracal but spotted like a serval. |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:12 pm | |
| A mix between a lynx and an African jungle cat is my guess. _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:02 pm | |
| I think the take-home message is that over-analyzing 'chinamals' can be a fruitless endeveour... |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7252
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:06 pm | |
| Rogério, I think ears and legs are too short and tail is too long for caracal or serval. Adam, you're right, the general proportions are the ones of a jungle cat (Felis chaus) but not the spotted coat! So,.. wether it's an inaccurate existant cat, wether it's an asiatic wild cat ( Felis silvestris ornata) whose body proportions, ears, tail and fur pattern are similar but it would be surprising for this species is not well known from most of peoples!.. I am afraid Blaine gave the good conclusion.. thanks to you three for your contribution! :) |
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Pardofelis
Country/State : Spain Age : 40 Joined : 2019-01-12 Posts : 2144
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:35 pm | |
| Obviously not an asiatic wild cat. Inaccurate existant (or generic non-existant) lynx is the figure, and Blaine's sentence is the most juicious one about this figure. _________________ My collection:- (Details):
Homemade: 106 CollectA: 54 Colorata: 31 Safari LTD: 29 Schleich: 20 Papo: 16 Kaiyodo: 13 Mojo Fun: 8 Ikimon/Kitan Club: 6 Southland Replicas: 6 Bullyland: 4 PNSO: 3 CBIOV: 2 Eikoh: 2 Yujin: 2 Takara Tomy:1 Nayab: 1 Happy Kin: 1 Natural History: 1 Science & Nature: 1
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45745
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:43 pm | |
| I also agree with Blaine but i think a jungle cat could be the best match for that. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7252
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:49 pm | |
| Ok I shall repaint it on that way!..
thank you Andreas! :) |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:43 pm | |
| I have these butterflies I got last summer and need help identifying them as real life species. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]_________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12055
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:46 pm | |
| I cant help too much, luckily we have some insect experts here. The last one to me appears to be a type of swallowtail. _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:08 pm | |
| I did believe the last two were swallowtails of some sort of swallowtail, but the first one I'm not sure about genus or species. _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6710
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:34 pm | |
| - Advicot wrote:
- I have these butterflies I got last summer and need help identifying them as real life species. [url=https://servimg.com/view/20187186/61]
These butterfly sculpts have been used several times, including the K&M Butterfly Nature Tube and the Insect Lore Big Bunch-o-Butterflies. The bottom one (which I have from the Insect Lore set) I have attributed to Papilio machaon, but the other two are not attributable to real species. For the top one, it looks like they took the K&M Aglais io but took substantial creative liberties with the color. But honestly, no hope for the top and middle options. |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:47 pm | |
| Ah that's a shame as the two other species in the bucket were a Diana Morpho and a True Forrester, I was able to identify them by your work Blaine. _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:54 am | |
| Any ideas what species the Nayab giraffe is... I believe it's a cape giraffe but I am not too sure (I really don't want it to be generic) Photo by Widukind [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]_________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35835
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:14 pm | |
| A Cordofan giraffe, I guess. |
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Advicot
Country/State : A farm in Britiain Age : 19 Joined : 2020-01-11 Posts : 3625
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:38 pm | |
| A Kordofan giraffe is better than my cape giraffe guess, thank you Roger :) _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ADAM [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] "Our planet is in crisis. The monster of this earth, is not a tiger nor a lion or shark. It's us we've destroyed the planet." (My own quote) |
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QuollMate
Country/State : Denver, Colorado & Prescott, Arizona Age : 24 Joined : 2013-05-21 Posts : 1580
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7252
| Subject: Re: Species identification topic Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:48 am | |
| Thank you QuollMate, it's also what I think! :) |
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