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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySun Jan 26, 2020 8:50 pm

Ok, I believe this tortoise [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is a Russian tortoise due to the similar colours of the Schleich one.

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Ok, I believe this tortoise [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is a Russian tortoise due to the similar colours of the Schleich one.

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As I received positive feedback from this identification, I moved all the tortoises of that set to the Russian tortoise page. :)

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptyWed Jan 29, 2020 10:53 pm

I also have a yellow variant of this figure.

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This is the Ania AS-16 kangaroo:
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Should it be classified as a grey kangaroo or a red kangaroo? It is more grey than red, but red kangaroos can also be quite grey. And if it is a grey kangaroo, is it a Western or Eastern grey kangaroo?

Another mystery is the Ania numbering. This kangaroo is AS-16, but there is also a beluga whale with the same number. Does anyone know more about this? There are several other animals that share the same Ania numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 1:22 pm

For the species of the kangaroo, make it what you want (but I bet it is a red).

As for numbering, Takara numbers usually refer to the year. So the '16' probably means it came out in 2016. I do not think they are unique to the figure.
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 1:48 pm

Maybe is the only correct-coloured red kangaroo figurine in the whole world besides the Southland's male.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 2:52 pm

The method I use to figures that use a generic name is to find if there is a common species. I mean really common in every sense, dominant in toy shape.
When a figure is marketed just as a kangaroo, it is almost surely a red kangaroo. The same when a figure is marketed as a fox, is almost surely a red fox or still a wolf is surely a grey wolf. These are obviously respectively their most representative species but not always easy to identify from other.
That's a fact, red and grey kangaroos are very similar and the color is not a good way to determine their identity. In the majority of the populations of red kangaroos, females are grey. In some other, males are grey while females are red. Laughing So, a traditional red kangaroo female is grey even they are almost always represented as red in toy shape.
So, when I determine a species as the commonest one, I tend to introduce it at the wiki to the species level and I only avoid it if there is anything obvious that doesn't match with the species features.
I miss in this figure, some facial markings typical in red kangaroos but I believe it is just consequence of the simplifying process of the painting layout. So, I'd list it as a red kangaroo.
I notice also that they are marketing the pygmy hippo to the species level and not just calling it a hippo. So, if it was a grey kangaroo, a less common species, they'd surely would market it like that.
About the numbering, I have no idea but since the koala, for instance, is number 23, it may not be related with the release date once it seems it was already released and 2023 is still to come. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 4:32 pm

Thanks everyone for your help. It's now a red kangaroo in TAW. That's right, the number can't indicate the year because there are many with a number higher than 20. And good to know that it has the right colour for a red kangaroo.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 5:36 pm

Roger wrote:
In some other, males are grey while females are red. Laughing

affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid Seriosuly??????????????? This is absolutely unknown to me!!!!!!!! Where you got this info??? Then all the thousands of females with pups in the toy trade, always reddish, are not wrong????

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 1:35 pm

Giulia gently provided some Nayab pictures to put at the Toy Animal Wiki and I confess my ignorance. Could you please help me finding with bird it this one?
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 1:48 pm

must just be a turkey, huh? Keeping in mind Nayab figures are not always realistically colored.
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 2:03 pm

Since it's in a farm-life set, there aren't many options...hehe

Mmmm... A Bourbon Red Turkey with a Goose head maybe? :p  It's the closest I could find..

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 2:45 pm

a grouse or western capercaillie?.. its neck is not at all the one of a thurkey..
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 3:21 pm

I have a knock off of this figure and it was sold in a farm animal bucket. I would have thought they just didn't paint the wattle a pinkish sort of colour.

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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 3:38 pm

If I remember correctly mine was in a wildlife set, so maybe they wanted to represent a wild turkey or maybe a grouse, even if not very accurate scratch

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this is the Nayab playset

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Ahhh! So it MUST be a turkey cheers

...parhaps they included it in a wild-set too ? Surprised

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Ahhh! So it MUST be a turkey cheers

...parhaps they included it in a wild-set too ? Surprised

I can't spot it in any of their dozens wild-sets... I see it in 2-3 different farm-life sets.
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PostSubject: Re: Species identification topic   Species identification topic - Page 14 EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 5:58 pm

Oh I have the massive Chinese? goose. I had no idea it was Nayab!

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I suspected it wouldn't be that easy. My first instinct was to list it as a turkey but after a better observation, I expected it to be a kind of grouse as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] suggested. As we can't find a better approach and the official picture shows a regular farm set, I also tend to agree with Blaine and to think that it is just one more of these Nayab very inaccurate figures. However, Giulia, the owner, tell it is from a wild set. Laughing Was it a Christmas set and it would be easier. Thanks to everyone, I will list it as a turkey, if we ever find a better guess, it could always be renamed. cheers

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I suspected it wouldn't be that easy. My first instinct was to list it as a turkey but after a better observation, I expected it to be a kind of grouse as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] suggested. As we can't find a better approach and the official picture shows a regular farm set, I also tend to agree with Blaine and to think that it is just one more of these Nayab very inaccurate figures. However, Giulia, the owner, tell it is from a wild set. Laughing Was it a Christmas set and it would be easier. Thanks to everyone, I will list it as a turkey, if we ever find a better guess, it could always be renamed. cheers

It's a turkey. Period.
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bmathison1972 wrote:

It's a turkey. Period.

lol! lol!

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I am after someone to give me a species that would work with this lizard please? For use on my collection blog where I make a note if I have made up the species myself.

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My guess for it is an incorrectly painted anole of some sort. The only thing that may identify it as an anole is the neck wattle.

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Advicot wrote:
My guess for it is an incorrectly painted anole of some sort. The only thing that may identify it as an anole is the neck wattle.
Thanks, I was looking at anoles but didn't know if the neck was specifically associated with them

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