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PostSubject: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 12:08

Ha, ha, look here :

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that is app 785 USdollar What a Face

Everybody thought the price would go down after it went up last summer to around 400 Euros, - but no !

Laughing There is one more for sale now, - seller is somebody that we all know Wink
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 12:21

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 12:27

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Lol aw[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hes cute. lol not 750 dollars cute thought!

There must be at least 2 who are willing to pay around that Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 13:18

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that is app 785 USdollar What a Face

Everybody thought the price would go down after it went up last summer to around 400 Euros, - but no !

Laughing There is one more for sale now, - seller is somebody that we all know Wink

Yes, Susanne, and I noticed that the two bidders who staged the "death match" over that beagle are now busily bidding up the new beagle auction. Very good news for Torben, I believe.....
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 13:40

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Ha, ha, look here :

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that is app 785 USdollar What a Face

Everybody thought the price would go down after it went up last summer to around 400 Euros, - but no !

Laughing There is one more for sale now, - seller is somebody that we all know Wink

Yes, Susanne, and I noticed that the two bidders who staged the "death match" over that beagle are now busily bidding up the new beagle auction. Very good news for Torben, I believe.....

Good news for Torben, but bad news for the rest of us.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 13:52

Oh My God! 555 Euros for now! 75 bids! lol, people is crazy! I wish I had one like this to sell it hehe

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 14:06

Yes, one could get 3 - 4 pintoes for that, - or, Sylvia, you could get many as far as I remember Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 14:19

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Yes, one could get 3 - 4 pintoes for that, - or, Sylvia, you could get many as far as I remember Shocked


Oh, I don´t think I will have that good luck again! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 15:16

wow 555 for the dog What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 15:17

You can have good, live one for that price...

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 30 Mar - 22:53

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You can have good, live one for that price...
And get all the stuff you need for it!

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 31 Mar - 1:02

I wouldn't go that far Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 31 Mar - 17:38

Did nobody noticed that this one was not a real one, but a re-painted one of the normal coloured older beagle??? Rolling Eyes Shocked affraid
You can easily see it in the colouration, which is much to bright and to new.
When you want to make money, see that you buy lots of the older beagle(because of the year and other markings under it), and make some nice re-paints, it seems to be good business... Embarassed Mad

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 31 Mar - 17:52

Do you really think so? That this is a repainted one? O.o

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 2:19

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Do you really think so? That this is a repainted one? O.o

No, Willy is joking. Willy is a joker sometimes jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 3:11

I think that was not a Joke.
I think the same when i saw it at first.
But when you look at Torbens beagle, there are the colours even bright.
So i think it is a real one and the seller has 886 positive feetbacks and it was the second one, wich the highest bidder bought. So you see, that he is an expert. And his positive feetback is: "Vielen Dank für alles! Gerne mal wieder!"

So i would be careful to say somethink like that.

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 3:49

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 10:25

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And his positive feetback is: "Vielen Dank für alles! Gerne mal wieder!"
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And that sentence means... question

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 10:34

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And his positive feetback is: "Vielen Dank für alles! Gerne mal wieder!"
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And that sentence means... question
it means "Thank you for everything! Happy again"

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 13:32

I think much of the problem with these special beagles is the different camera angles and lighting conditions make it very difficult to properly evaluate the authenticity of each one. Maybe we buyers should demand a "Certificate of Authenticity" from the sellers... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 1 Apr - 20:10

Well Phil, this is a good idea in these kind of matters, as the price for a little toy-animal like this goes up more and more in the last years.
you are right about the way people take their pictures, as we can see here on the forum to, which can make or break a model sometimes.

But i was not kidding Susanne, i really ment it...
I don't make corners or curves when the road must be straight... Wink
I like to call the things by their name normally...
The one Torben is selling(i saw it by accident this evening), is less shiny in my opinion, and he doesn't have to sell odd stuff, or re-paintings or other bad stuff, i know him to good for that, and we all do by now i think. Cool
He is a very respectfull and honourable man, and he is not out to make easy profits... king

And Peter, weren't you the person who was the talk about the last time, because you sold a dark beagle, or am i mistaking maybe... Rolling Eyes
Or do you mean another dark beagle maybe?
I know about one very respected female member here, who bought a re-painted beagle... Shocked affraid

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sat 2 Apr - 2:03

And she became a fully refund....
We know.


I don`t say that with Torbens Beagle is something wrong. But when you look at Torbens beagle, there are the colours even bright. So I mean, that the bright is not a reason to see if it a real one.

It was the second beagle wich the highest bidder bought,
And he/she is very lucky with both of them.
So i think it is a real one and you are wrong and my first impressive was even wrong.
Until now i have never seen sold an fake on ebay.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sat 2 Apr - 12:36

I know Peter, i know...

I hope the buyer is happy with her beagles, that is what counts at the end... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sat 2 Apr - 15:23

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 11:03

One of my friends just got one more dark beagle Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 11:36

Nothing there...

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 12:02

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Nothing there...

Try to scroll down Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 12:05

Ah yes, my mistake...

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 14:08

Buy it now for 30 Euro.
WOW.
Why have i not seen this.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 14:13

That's one happy buyer Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 14:49

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Buy it now for 30 Euro.
WOW.
Why have i not seen this.

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Sun 17 Apr - 19:05

lol 30 euros... it´s very few for that figurine!

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Mon 18 Apr - 18:02

Well if I would have bought the cheaper version I would have never know that I just bought something so rare and special. I didnt buy it but that goes to show that we never know it all. I am just starting to collect these fun little figures and I learn somthing new daily almost. I thank all of you for making this a fun and very informative website.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Mon 18 Apr - 19:43

Well, congratulations to the buyer, for an incredible transaction... cheers They say that "timing is everything in life..." :)
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Mon 2 May - 6:55

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Wed 18 May - 22:56

OMG, when even this older beagle goes up in price like this, where it is all ending in the future?
Older Schleichs are soon more worth then gold or so... Shocked affraid

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 1:17

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 2:55

Yes but the seller said under this figurine is the stamp 1994. But only the figurine 16332 has the stamp 1994 under it. And he said that he don`t have time to make more photos, but still have two beagles more.

So i think over 200 Euro is still enough for it.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 3:05

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Yes but the seller said under this figurine is the stamp 1994. But only the figurine 16332 has the stamp 1994 under it. And he said that he don`t have time to make more photos, but still have two beagles more.

So i think over 200 Euro is still enough for it.

So THAT one was perhaps a repaint of the much newer 16332 Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 5:22

Since I wasn't going to bid on any of these, I did not make any attempt to verify their authenticity. I have no idea whether they are repainted fakes or not, but there are so many crooked sellers of models like these now on eBay.de that I wouldn't be surprised if they are all fakes.

There are sellers who are not only repainting beagles, but also the 14070 zookeepers to make it appear they are the blue and white variant.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 5:50

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......there are so many crooked sellers of models like these now on eBay.de that I wouldn't be surprised if they are all fakes.

There are sellers who are not only repainting beagles, but also the 14070 zookeepers to make it appear they are the blue and white variant.

Laughing Laughing Cheer up , Phil, I am sure it isn`t as bad as that Very Happy

But if it says 1994 on the buttom, something IS wrong ! Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 7:23

Perhaps the dark beagle is only a fiction. Ore has someone seen him in old catalougs. Wink
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......there are so many crooked sellers of models like these now on eBay.de that I wouldn't be surprised if they are all fakes.

There are sellers who are not only repainting beagles, but also the 14070 zookeepers to make it appear they are the blue and white variant.


But if it says 1994 on the buttom, something IS wrong ! Suspect


Why do you think something is wrong when 1994 is on the bottom? Gascher's said that 16302-1 was in stores 1994 und the 16302 was in the stores from 1994 - 1997. So it is not usal to have 1994 on both of them? Most of my figures have the year before they arrive in the stores on the bottom, but some (especially older ones) have the same year on it. So I'm interested why you mean it's impossible for the beagle to have the 1994 on the bottom.

I'm quite new in the Schleich-scene, so I'm also quite clueless and I hope you don't mind silly questions geek

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 15:57

Hi, Mia Very Happy

Your question makes lots of sence, but the year 1994 wat not moulded into the beagle untill the version 16332 came in 2003.

Yes, it is totally silly, but Schleich did the same with f.inst the sitting Berner Sennedog. The new version that came in ´05 together with a mate and puppy has 95 moulded in it, while the real old one has no year-mark drunken

Many of the old dogs don`t have a year molded in them, I checked a few of mine : Cocker, Boxer, Beige foxterrier, none have a year, perhaps more dogs don`t?
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 16:28

Thank you for your quick answer, Susanne flower

It's a great forum here, I can learn so much new every day! When I understand it right the "real" old ones are the one without the year-mark. So Schleich have to change all of the "old" mold-forms, as example for the sitting Berner Sennedog, and have to add the year-mark 1995 to all of the old mold-forms?

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... the year 1994 wat not moulded into the beagle untill the version 16332 came in 2003.
You mean when the new 16332 Beagle 2003 hit the stores the two Beagles 16302 and 16302-1 got the year-mark 1994? But they aren't produzed in 2003 anymore?

Right now I'm feeling really silly What a Face geek confused scratch great smileys lol!

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 16:50

Ich schreib es einfach mal auf Deutsch.
Der Beagle 16032 hat keinen Jahresstempel, wurde aber 94 produziert.
Erst die Neuauflage von 2003, der 16332 beagle hat einen Stempel 1994 und Made in China.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 17:01

Vielen Dank für die Info! Aber wieso gibt Schleich dem neuen Beagle 16332 dann die alte Jahreszahl 1994 und nicht 2003?
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Thu 19 May - 17:06

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You mean when the new 16332 Beagle 2003 hit the stores the two Beagles 16302 and 16302-1 got the year-mark 1994? But they aren't produzed in 2003 anymore?


You are not silly, it IS confusing. Also English is not my first language, so I may not explain very well scratch

What happened was that the dark beagle 16302-1 was only produced for one year.
The light 16302 was made the same year (according to Gascher`s) and the production of this version was continued till 1997.

Then in 2003 they began making it again, but now it was the custom to put the year on, perhaps they put the old year on as not to pretend it was a new beagle?
They also added the "made in..." to the model.

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Am I right, all you others ?
I am not an expert in mold-making, but as far as I can see it was quite easy to do, because they just had to remove some material from the mold Wink

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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 20 May - 2:10

I think this is correct, Susanne, but we should wait for Peter, as he is the expert on these things.
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PostSubject: Re: THE Beagle dark 16302-1 for cheap price   Fri 20 May - 2:16

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......there are so many crooked sellers of models like these now on eBay.de that I wouldn't be surprised if they are all fakes.

There are sellers who are not only repainting beagles, but also the 14070 zookeepers to make it appear they are the blue and white variant.

Laughing Laughing Cheer up , Phil, I am sure it isn`t as bad as that Very Happy

But if it says 1994 on the buttom, something IS wrong ! Suspect

BTW, - is the blue-and-white farmer rare ?

Yes, it is much rarer than the 14070 blue/red/yellow zookeeper. Until last year, we didn't know of its existence, but Torben acquired one and published the photo here. Then, a certain mega-collector in the UK won one in an auction... Wink

Now, it is clear that there were more than a few big collectors in Germany and elsewhere in the EU who had them.
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