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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm | |
| I am getting completely behind WOW!! Those lipizzan horses in the snow Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ? They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much . The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black. If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution. Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys . |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:35 pm | |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:01 pm | |
| More wonderful horses! They are lovely! The brown one with golden ribbons is especially elegant And thank you for posting photos of Lipizzaners on "Carneval Ride" Beautiful horses!!! _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:19 pm | |
| Thank you everybody, you are very kind - SUSANNE wrote:
- Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ?
They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much . The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black. If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution. Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys .
I know that they always have a "lucky" dark bay (often mistaken for a black) at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna. The luck will abandon the stable when the last one leaves I did not know about the "too much dilution"-"grey to double cream"-"sick horse" theory nerdy part (skip if bored ): What always surprises me is that such "theories" sometimes turn out as actually containing some sence within them. Lipizzaners have a problem with skin cancer (melanoma) around the "under the tail" area (not necessarily malignant). - Quote :
- A melanoma is a dark-pigmented skin tumor. In human medical terminology, all melanomas are malignant. Among animals, however, melanomas may be either benign (not cancerous) or malignant (cancerous). Most melanomas found in horses occur in those with gray coats, in which the coat turns gray (or white) with age. They are especially common in Lipizzaners, Arabians, and Percherons. It has been found that up to 80% of gray or white horses of these breeds may be affected.
The lighter the horse hairs - the bigger the risk (the skin is dark). Heterozygous Gg horses are a bit darker than homozygous GG horses, grey out a bit slower and are often fleabitten grays. Having a dark horse somehow makes sure that the "heterozygousness" is preserved within the population and thus makes the melanoma risk lower. So having a dark horse within the gray population is indeed lucky. Amazing. Scientific research: Complex Inheritance of Melanoma and Pigmentation of Coat and Skin in Grey Horses [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:56 pm | |
| I really enjoy your idea of making the foundation stallions for Lipizzans. That's an excelent project and it surely helped you to study more your beloved breed as well as making such wonderful works. Fortunately, I also have seen Susanne's Snowman, what a precious custom! |
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:11 pm | |
| Thank you Fancy 17th century baroque tack for my lipizzaners: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]It is still a prototype with a lot of flaws. Some J. G. Hamilton paintings used as "templates": [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:10 pm | |
| _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:32 pm | |
| Wow! Amazing! Congratulations!!! _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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A-J
Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 28 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1543
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:50 pm | |
| Wow, it looks really awesome _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Anne-Joke [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ajs.artistry - Instagram AJs Artistry Shop - Etsy |
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:29 pm | |
| thank you new dark blue tack: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]and a horse: Serendipitycolor: dominant white (white spotting W?) e/e W/w or E/- At/a W/w [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]template: - Spoiler:
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sadie3112
Country/State : England Age : 25 Joined : 2014-08-30 Posts : 356
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:04 pm | |
| What an unusually coloured horse! It has such a lovely finish |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 pm | |
| She's very beautiful! I love your unusual horse colors and the way you make them look like real horses Great job! _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Elros Alvar
Country/State : Spain Age : 25 Joined : 2012-02-06 Posts : 3284
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm | |
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A-J
Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 28 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1543
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm | |
| Lovely horses The tack is wonderful, as always. Serendipity is beautifully painted too! _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Anne-Joke [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ajs.artistry - Instagram AJs Artistry Shop - Etsy |
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:19 pm | |
| Thank you Here are the images from LS Stuttgart 20.09.2014which I visited last Saturday [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]It was a nice show, with a lot of very nice horses :) This beauty came home with me: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]It's my first resin. She's sabino bay and is now called Gnossienne 1Model is Crusher, mini resin by Kitty Cantrell. Painter: Eva Dotzler, pastel (acryl for the whites, as far as I can tell) Tombola catch and 2 bodies [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:05 pm | |
| Beautiful newcomer this Gnossienne 1 !!!! Congratulations! _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:14 pm | |
| A great day and great catches Arrrw, that Gnossienne is a beauty !!! |
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:45 pm | |
| Ooh I love Crusher! Congrats! |
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JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 28 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:28 pm | |
| Omg that resin is fabulous! Congratulations! Curious to see those two finished too _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:08 pm | |
| Tnx I don't have so much time for repainting lately New tack for the two of my historical lipizzaners: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]My first (correctly made) pastel horse: Tulipan Lindacolor: bay roan E/- A/- Rn/- [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Dark Pegasus
Country/State : Poland Age : 26 Joined : 2013-12-01 Posts : 140
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:44 pm | |
| Very nice models - I very like this roan horse |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:09 am | |
| Yes Dorotea, this bay roan is just fantastic! |
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boba_jagoda
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2013-11-22 Posts : 128
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:53 pm | |
| tnx Favory Perletta homozygous pearl on black E/- a/a prl/prl [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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A-J
Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 28 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1543
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:17 pm | |
| Looking great! I like the dark one the best. It has a more contrast _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Anne-Joke [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ajs.artistry - Instagram AJs Artistry Shop - Etsy |
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LeeAnn
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10339
| Subject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:51 pm | |
| Ohhhh I absolutely adore the bay roan! He's just stunning! |
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