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The nesting models are really great especially when there is a fox included. Very Happy
It's really a fact that the motivations for our fox/Asian rhinos collections are very different, the way we collect is also different and you go deeper into each figure history and being far more eclectic. Though, Roger is surely right about the experience it is providing to both of us.
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Thank you Andreas and Jean-Luc  Very Happy

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The nesting models are really great especially when there is a fox included. Very Happy
It's really a fact that the motivations for our fox/Asian rhinos collections are very different, the way we collect is also different and you go deeper into each figure history and being far more eclectic. Though, Roger is surely right about the experience it is providing to both of us.
Congratulations for your new models!

I really didn't know what to do with this nesting fox. Now that I know my set isn't complete, it'll be easier to part with it.  Wink
My collection may be more eclectic than yours when it comes to vintage and exotic manufacturers, but it's much less eclectic when it comes to horses, farm animals and pets. All eclecticism has its limits.  Laughing
Yes, Roger is certainly right and these two collections, restricted to a single species, open the door to a much wider universe, enabling us to visit our world of toys without getting lost along the way. The choice of species is intriguing though, whether it's your choice of foxes or the choice of rhino Indians to invade me. To be sure of covering the whole subject, the lion would have been an easier choice. In that case, perhaps the collection would have been too vast. I have more Lions than rhino Indians and yet my rhino collection is closer to being complete than my lion collection, which doesn't even exist as such.
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The nesting models are really great especially when there is a fox included. Very Happy
It's really a fact that the motivations for our fox/Asian rhinos collections are very different, the way we collect is also different and you go deeper into each figure history and being far more eclectic. Though, Roger is surely right about the experience it is providing to both of us.
Congratulations for your new models!

I really didn't know what to do with this nesting fox. Now that I know my set isn't complete, it'll be easier to part with it.  Wink
My collection may be more eclectic than yours when it comes to vintage and exotic manufacturers, but it's much less eclectic when it comes to horses, farm animals and pets. All eclecticism has its limits.  Laughing
Yes, Roger is certainly right and these two collections, restricted to a single species, open the door to a much wider universe, enabling us to visit our world of toys without getting lost along the way. The choice of species is intriguing though, whether it's your choice of foxes or the choice of rhino Indians to invade me. To be sure of covering the whole subject, the lion would have been an easier choice. In that case, perhaps the collection would have been too vast. I have more Lions than rhino Indians and yet my rhino collection is closer to being complete than my lion collection, which doesn't even exist as such.

I was just mentioning the eclectism in terms of brands and styles of our rhino/fox collections. Though, checking it better, my fox collections is quite eclectic since I even have a few cartoons, resins, ceramics, etc.
About the nested models, I think it would be great for you to complete the set if it is possible because they are all part of the same ensemble. However, it would be appreciated if the nested fox could find a place among my foxes. If you ever find the missing link, it can always return to you.

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About the nested models, what interested me most was that bloody pink rhino. If the set had been complete it would definitely have had a place in my collection. I won't spend time and money to complete it even if the set is interesting, I just need to know about it.
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I have never seen anything like those nested figures, a very cool piece of collecting history and really cool figures each in their own right. I like the running fox especially.

I also really enjoy both Marx rhinos. The larger one has such a different personality than most, he looks quite wild, and the other is charming in its roundness and also in its story of getting to you. :)
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Thank's for your words Jill Very Happy

In our hobby, Germany has been associated with Schleich for the last 20 years, but this was certainly not the case in the 20th century.
Back then, the country was a battleground for two giants: Lineol and Hausser Elastolin.
Lineol only produced one Indian rhinoceros between 1910 and 1940, but I already introduced you to it last year.

For Hausser Elastolin, things are a little more complicated. The brand may not have produced any Indian rhinoceros, or it may have produced one, or even two. geek scratch

More clearly, in 1925 Hausser created one of these famous hybrids, meaning an Indian rhinoceros with two horns.
This model was produced until WWII. It is made of composition but it is hollow, the result of assembling two parts.
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After the war, this model was replaced by another hybrid repainted in grey. It was offered for sale until 1969.
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You might think that this second model is just a paint variation on the previous Rhino.
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Well no, this model is different, it's still hollow but heavier. The head is also different, lower than the pre-war model and it looks straight ahead whereas its predecessor turned its head slightly to the right.
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Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought the Elastolin composition models were known for their realism. These two look more artistic than realistic and the sculptor used some artistic license with the additional horn.

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Some Hausser composition models can be considered as realistic and some more "artistic" like this rhino. The plastic series were more realistic.
Lineol is the most realistic of the Composition toys manufacturer.
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2 very beautiful rhinos Christophe!
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These two are Indian rhinos. The only thing that is wrong are the horns so I assume the sculptor made an Indian rhino and wanted to gave to it a much larger horn and why not a 2nd one? It is not so uncommon to find Indian rhino figures with two horns, it is much rarer figures of African rhinos with a single horn.

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About the nested models, what interested me most was that bloody pink rhino. If the set had been complete it would definitely have had a place in my collection. I won't spend time and money to complete it even if the set is interesting, I just need to know about it.

I understand. :) It will be great to see figures of the same set in our collections. How many chances that we find a fox and an Indian rhino in the same set?

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These two are Indian rhinos. The only thing that is wrong are the horns so I assume the sculptor made an Indian rhino and wanted to gave to it a much larger horn and why not a 2nd one? It is not so uncommon to find Indian rhino figures with two horns, it is much rarer figures of African rhinos with a single horn.

In fact, I strongly suspect that the sculptor created a one-horned Indian rhino and it was then that a sales manager asked "what if we added a second horn between the first and the ears?"
What makes me think this is that this little horn really does look like a last-minute addition when you look at the head up close.
This Hausser is rather atypical for a pre-war model, it's the only hybrid I know of except the little Pfeiffer. Indian rhinos with two horns are more typical of the post-war plastic and 60s.

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About the nested models, what interested me most was that bloody pink rhino. If the set had been complete it would definitely have had a place in my collection. I won't spend time and money to complete it even if the set is interesting, I just need to know about it.

I understand. :) It will be great to see figures of the same set in our collections. How many chances that we find a fox and an Indian rhino in the same set?

At the moment I'm lucky enough to have both, but I have a feeling that won't last. Wink Laughing
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After the two Hausser elastolin, we're going to stick with rhinos in composition. Our three guests for the evening are complete unknowns, at least to me.
They all have something in common: a single horn, the same material and the same provenance - I found them all in Germany.
They also all have great personalities and they're all rare.

First N°67, the Red Rhino. I met this model a few years ago and didn't catch it. Since then, it's been one of the figurines that haunt me. Then one day I spoke to Uli Raue about it and he had one to offer me: what a delight!  cheers I think it's the one I missed out on years ago, but maybe I'm wrong. So I've only come across one or two since I've been collecting.
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No.68 isn't red, but he doesn't skimp on lipstick and rimmel to make a splash. When we met, it was with an elephant from the same series and had the reputation of coming from DDR. The ears and eyes remind me of Marolin, but I can't be sure. It's the only one I know.
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N°69 is without doubt the behavest of the three, grey with a pretty little white horn. I only know two of these rhinos, this one and another with a slightly broken horn. I own both of them.
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These three little guys aren't prestigious must-haves, but they're not lacking in charm. They also bear witness to an era when toy manufacturers abounded throughout Europe. Many of them have become unknown today, but I don't despair of discovering their origins one day.
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Congratulations on your very rare rhinos Christophe!
3 unusual but striking beasts :) I think they are wonderful and it's always fun when a model has some rather unusual trait to it - like very strange ears Very Happy on the red coat or snowball on the nose area Shocked

Yet again, another delight to see a peek at your incredible collection!
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Three amazing pieces with lots of misteries to be unveiled. I hope you can find information about them. The background of a figure is always something interesting t give more identity to each piece. Though, those, inspite of being anonymous, they have surely their own identity as Annette perfectly pointed. I love especially the one with rabbit ears. You can call it Rabhino. Wink

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And the one I have available...
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finaly not so rare since we know 3 now! Laughing

 
 Rhabhino is emotional with its flowing rimmel.. Smile
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Congratulations on your very rare rhinos Christophe!
3 unusual but striking beasts :) I think they are wonderful and it's always fun when a model has some rather unusual trait to it - like very strange ears Very Happy on the red coat or snowball on the nose area Shocked

Yet again, another delight to see a peek at your incredible collection!

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Three amazing pieces with lots of misteries to be unveiled. I hope you can find information about them. The background of a figure is always something interesting t give more identity to each piece. Though, those, inspite of being anonymous, they have surely their own identity as Annette perfectly pointed. I love especially the one with rabbit ears. You can call it Rabhino. Wink

So Rogério and Annette, would you agree to call them Rednoceros, Rabhino and Snowball ? Laughing

And yes Ricardo and Alain, and then they were three... Still not an army though Wink

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It is interesting to see some figures from the former GDR. I can not remember to see anywhere in the GDR these figures. They are older than me and rare. Also a the flea markets in the GDR was only to find (oly sometimes) a few Lineol figures. But they was really expensive there. The price i rmember (for a malayan tapir) was 80 Mark. This was a lot.

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Yes, these models are not necessarily very sought-after, they don't have the aura and reputation of Lineol, Hausser and Pfeiffer. I happen to be very fond of these outsiders, and discovering an unknown rhino is always a great joy for me.
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Tonight, I'm taking you to France to discover three rhinoceros, a Jem, a Jim and a Papo.

The connection between the three is very tenuous, I admit, but it's not always easy to make links. Palmface

Let's start in alphabetical order: The JEM
Founded by Marc Fischer in the 60s, the manufacturer produced a zoo with a series of wild animals.
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In the 1980s JEM took over the NOREV company, which specialised in the manufacture of miniature toy cars. The animal series was then probably used as a complement to the NOREV range.
These animals have been produced in hard and soft plastics. They're not the most beautiful or realistic, but I like them all the same.
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The link with the next one is obvious... From JEM to JIM.
JIM was founded in Paris after WW2. It manufactured plastic toys until its closure in 1974. It is famous in France for having produced a huge number of figurines under licence (Disney, French cartoons, etc.).
It also made toy soldiers and, of course, a series of wild animals.
These include a little Rhino with a greenish complexion and a slightly haughty stance.
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And now, is there a link between little JIM and big Papo?
"Knickfuß" cheers as Lineol fans would say, these two rhinoceros have the art of raising their knees like the Lineol 400/501 "Knickfuß" Elephant once did.
Our Papo was born in 2013, a time when Indian rhinos were rare in the toy world. The last Schleich had died in 2009 and only Safari Ltd had risen to the challenge in 2012.
While Safari Ltd is a gem, Papo has plenty of charm of its own.
Sadly, this model was short-lived, dying out in 1018. For those who didn't buy it at the time, there's still hope, as Papo is a regular of reissues. So who knows ?
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And the music played on… (as nearly said Joe Jackson in 1979) Wink
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I like a lot the Jim one! cheers cheers
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If only Papo’s dinosaurs were that good! Laughing Well, the new Suchomimus is pretty decent.

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