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Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:14 pm | |
| I’ve received my first Mojo animals recently (thank you, James!) and must say that in real life they look even better than on photos! Holding the magnificent Mojo lion in my hands, I can’t help but continue the discussion upon Roger’s excellent comparison review of male lion replicas. Until now there were no figures of male lions at the market that satisfied my taste. But Mojo lion is just what the doctor ordered! So I dare to say that it is the best male lion figurine available at the market today. Do you agree, friends? And here are some pics. I settled the new lion in my Africa cabinet display – look how he is studying the terrain: The former “king” of this “jungle” is being expelled by the stately Mojo male: And here he's wading a river and stepping on a bluff sand ridge: This figure reminds me of this guy: In a reply to this post I’ll try to sum up the pros and contras of other lion figures based on my outlook and Roger’s review. _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Review of lion figures Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:26 pm | |
| So, here’s a concise review of lion figures by major brands (using pics by Roger, Ken & Martin). Schleich 2008 lionPros: + Good body proportions + Good availability of Schleich in many countries :) Contras: - Strange-looking blond mane - Mediocre paintwork, especially at the muzzle - Glossy finish Papo 2004 roaring lion Pros: none to my taste Contras: - Small head - Strange-looking paws - Mediocre paintwork - Glossy finish In general, this figure looks more like a toy from a gladiators playset than a wildlife item. Papo 2006 lionPros: + Stately appearance + Very detailed, artistic mane Contras: - Oversized muzzle and paws - Boring paintwork - Glossy finish Safari 2011 lion I haven’t held this one in my hands so can judge only by photos. Looking forward to comments by those who have this lion in their collections. Pros: + Stately posture Contras: - Short legs - Boring paintwork CollectA 2011 lionPros: + Beastly look + It looks more like a wild animal than a fatted zoo lion Cons: - Awkward pose - Unrealistic muzzle Bullyland lion (63600) Pros: + Aggressive pose Cons: - Mediocre paintwork - Unrealistic muzzle Mojo 2011 lionPros: + Realistic muzzle: details, expression, that predator’s look… + Excellent paintwork + Matt finish + Optimally dynamic & elegant pose: not static and not too dynamic or saltatory Cons: - Skimpy chin (lower jaw) What do you think about it? Do you agree or disagree with the above evaluations? _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| Kirill, thank You for that comparison and for this interesting topic. Male lion seems to be one of the hardest animals to make I have only new Schleich lion male so far. Lions from other brands look too strange for me, and I had no chances for getting Mojo for myself yet. I must agree with all disadvantages which You described under photos of lions from different brands. From all lions I like Papo lionesses most Papo male has wrong proportions, so I wouldn't buy him (he looks like Mufasa ), CollectA is strange, too big mane or something, Safari is very toyish and Bullyland has strange face Schleich was the best in my opinion, so far, but not perfect too. I love sculpting work in Schleich one- beautifully sculpted muscles and skin details. Paint job isn't great, but mine isn't glossy luckily But this baleyage (highlights) is terrible So, Mojo would be best in that competition. But for me it has 1st place together with Schleich The thing which I would suggest for Mojo lion is sculpting work is a little bit too basic, muscles and other anatomical details could be more visible, and I wish some more details on face. But I agree:his pose, colors, paint job, proportions are best. So, because no one is 100% perfect I must say 2 lions have first place |
| | | HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:21 pm | |
| The only lions I've had are the Papo, I've never had the chance to compare other brands together - the Mojo lion does look very fine and seeing collector's photos and feedback on how great he is, makes me want to get him. _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:23 pm | |
| - ana wrote:
- So, Mojo would be best in that competition. But for me it has 1st place together with Schleich The thing which I would suggest for Mojo lion is sculpting work is a little bit too basic, muscles and other anatomical details could be more visible, and I wish some more details on face. But I agree:his pose, colors, paint job, proportions are best.
I agree with your description of the Mojo lion Anna _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | lucky luke
Country/State : FRANCE Saint-Louis Age : 62 Joined : 2010-07-17 Posts : 6298
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:33 pm | |
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| | | Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:35 pm | |
| - ana wrote:
- I must agree with all disadvantages which You described under photos of lions from different brands. From all lions I like Papo lionesses most Papo male has wrong proportions, so I wouldn't buy him (he looks like Mufasa ), CollectA is strange, too big mane or something, Safari is very toyish and Bullyland has strange face Schleich was the best in my opinion, so far, but not perfect too. I love sculpting work in Schleich one- beautifully sculpted muscles and skin details. Paint job isn't great, but mine isn't glossy luckily But this baleyage (highlights) is terrible
So, Mojo would be best in that competition. But for me it has 1st place together with Schleich ... Well, for me #2 after Moyo is Schleich's young lion, but I didn't include it in the review as it is not a "fully-featured" male lion :) As to the Schleich male - I always look at him when I come to toy shops, but haven't still bought... It's not up my street. - HKHollinstone wrote:
- ...the Mojo lion does look very fine and seeing collector's photos and feedback on how great he is, makes me want to get him.
Harriet, you won't regret it! believe me, Mojo lion looks even better in real life than on pics. Cool picture, Jean-Luc! Real savannah in twilight. _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 32 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:42 pm | |
| _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:46 pm | |
| WOW, Jean Luc, This picture is BEAUTIFUL!!!Thank You so much for showing, it catch the spirit of African Savanna BEAUTIFUL!!! Kirill, it's funny to know that You haven't bought Schleich adult lion yet, I haven't bought young one yet I find the pose of young one somewhat exaggerated. Well, I guess it's just a matter of taste, and it's good to see that diversity on our forum |
| | | Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21185
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:41 pm | |
| Kiryl... Could you believe it ? I agree with you MOJO FUN lion is my favourite among modern lions. Ana, you are right too of course but despite a bit lack of details, this lion is the most wild of all and have a strong "lion's soul". Jean-luc, congratulation, your good pics fit perfectly with the MOJO FUN lion. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35844
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:56 pm | |
| Kiril, thanks for your topic and also for the reference to my topic. :) Of course with time our way to see the things changes slightly! At the starting I confess my excitment with the detail and expression of Papo lion but after some measurements and a careful reviewing, now I watch it as a completly wrong figure. Anyway I like it and want to keep it in my collection! About the male from Schleich I really don't agree with our talented sculptresses, maybe they are right because they are much more talented and more used reviewing figures. I have the figure and I don't see nothing interesting except the general proportions. I don't see a feline in that figure, if not in muscles, bones structure, face, etc. What I see is a pretty figure. The mane is almost a flower, I'm not talking about painting, you can see a clear rounded sculpting arround the face that makes a mane looks like those from toyish and cute figures! There's no straight lines in this kind of figures and that's maybe the weak point of Mojo figures, but, in the excelent real picture here posted we see that that figure really looks like a real lion in its more natural expression. Pleas try also to see it from above, very narrow, as many cats and compare it with the wide body of the Papo. My opinion about the recently retired Safari already changed towards a more negative, I confess I gave it to a children of my family and I'll make the same with the Schleich, unless someone from the forum needs it. The CollectA new lion have some interesting points but some lack of realism and important flaws, anyway much better than the previous. In a point I agree with all of you, the best is clearly the Papo lioness and other brands were not able of making also a nice lady, so maybe it is not an easy figure. But lions are really hard. Considering that lions are often replaced in ranges, I'm almost sure the next Mojo and Papo lions will be really great and I'm not really sure about next Schleich lion because of their temptation to give a cute factor to the figures. |
| | | Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 pm | |
| - Kikimalou wrote:
- Kiryl... Could you believe it ? I agree with you
Oh, wow! How could it happen?!!! Unbelievable and pleasant surprise :) - ana wrote:
- Kirill, it's funny to know that You haven't bought Schleich adult lion yet, I haven't bought young one yet I find the pose of young one somewhat exaggerated...
Yeah, tastes surely differ! I like the young Schleich for two reasons: 1) I find his pose interesting and dynamic, a good posture for displays; 2) no other brand has made smth alike until Papo introduced their young lion this year. That's a bold decision, I think. BTW, I should buy my second young lion as Schleich will retire it in 2012... - Roger wrote:
- ...About the male from Schleich... I don't see nothing interesting except the general proportions. I don't see a feline in that figure, if not in muscles, bones structure, face, etc. What I see is a pretty figure. The mane is almost a flower, I'm not talking about painting, you can see a clear rounded sculpting arround the face that makes a mane looks like those from toyish and cute figures! There's no straight lines in this kind of figures and that's maybe the weak point of Mojo figures, but, in the excelent real picture here posted we see that that figure really looks like a real lion in its more natural expression. Pleas try also to see it from above, very narrow, as many cats and compare it with the wide body of the Papo...
One couldn't describe the flaws of these lions better than you did, Roger! Totally agree with you. _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | lucky luke
Country/State : FRANCE Saint-Louis Age : 62 Joined : 2010-07-17 Posts : 6298
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:03 pm | |
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| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35844
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:39 am | |
| I forgot something here! Hurray for James!!! |
| | | Sergey
Country/State : S. - Petersburg, Russia Age : 58 Joined : 2010-09-22 Posts : 2887
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:03 am | |
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| | | SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:43 am | |
| I am so sorry, for once I am not so very positive I agree with Sergey, the Mojo-lion lacks a chin, and what are those rows of black dots doing in his face - Kiryuha wrote:
And here he's wading a river and stepping on a bluff sand ridge:
This figure reminds me of this guy:
Also I never like those very clear painted shades, I have said it often before, the schulping should make the shape, paintwork is only to underline descretely I neither like or dislike the CollectA-lion. He is a fat, lazy lion with a funny face and the mane looks a bit strange. This is ok, but not fair to let him be the only one with no minusses Big paws or not, and even if his front leg is glued on, I think the old Papo-lion is my choice for the best lion |
| | | Sergey
Country/State : S. - Petersburg, Russia Age : 58 Joined : 2010-09-22 Posts : 2887
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:37 am | |
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| | | ken yeo
Country/State : Singapore Age : 54 Joined : 2010-04-05 Posts : 5428
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:54 pm | |
| I also never thought that Mojo lion will be the best and Sergey actually pointed out that lack of chin on Mojo lion. I still prefer the Schleich lion over the others.
And Anna also bring out this point " lion is not easy to sculpt". And worse is Bullyland not even close to any of this. I think the best lion is still Safari wildlife wonder. Of course is not fall under similar sizes. _________________ http://www.collectorsquest.com/collector/ken-yeo
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| | | Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:46 pm | |
| :) :) It's strange to hear "sorry" from you, friends - we have a discussion here, moreover - a discussion based on personal tastes, so no concord could ever be achieved here You're right, lack of chin is a disadvantage of this lion (I added it to the review). Nevertheless, I like Mojo figure more than the others, who have more contras to my taste. And I'm glad to know that you have other favorites! By the way, maybe he has somehow screwed his lower jaw up? _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:02 pm | |
| Oh,an interesting discussion here :) Sergey You are right about the face of Mojo lion, something is not exactly right. Chin is too small and maybe this feeling is also because upper muzzle looks too long, somewhat like in some dog breeds (mastiff?) Lion's upper muzzle looks normally more rounded and shorter. But even with that I like Mojo lion very much! Hunting pose is really wild! And I think I will add him to my collection. Susanne, Sergey thank You for many interesting photos |
| | | Kiryuha
Country/State : Kyiv, Ukraine Age : 44 Joined : 2010-04-19 Posts : 1081
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:30 am | |
| - ana wrote:
- Lion's upper muzzle looks normally more rounded and shorter. But even with that I like Mojo lion very much! Hunting pose is really wild! And I think I will add him to my collection.
Same here. Of course, nothing's perfect in the figurines world, and Mojo lion is not perfect as well. But it is the only lion that I want to have in my collection (not counting the young one from Schleich)! _________________ Owners of miniature zoos on shelves, unite! My collector's blog
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| | | PeGe
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2011-05-29 Posts : 1634
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:50 pm | |
| yes, the chin,..but to me, there's something else what destroys the whole impressive character: the whispers. In reality, those would be the size of a euro coin? When i look at the figurine, i miss a belly fold and axis-deer somewhere right there where he gazes at,.... |
| | | Steve170
Country/State : United Kingdom Age : 37 Joined : 2011-11-22 Posts : 716
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:26 pm | |
| I'd say the Mojo Lion is the best out there . I can easily put up with the dot whiskers and jaw because I think the figure just stands a league above the others, much more life like. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35844
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:49 am | |
| I agree with some comments here but I get always scared when people talk about Schleich lion. Mainly people that I know that understands a lot of animals! Anyway I accept all opinions and mine is like the others. Only one more! Schleich Schleich lion is morphologically wrong, the rear has a wrong shape. It shouldn't be rounded but slightly angled and droping back. The left back leg is much bigger than the right back leg, that's an important flaw. As I told the mane is completly irrealistic. The head is turned and there's no expression in the body showing it. The skin that joins the back legs to the ventral part of the body is almost not visible and very deep, that's very usual in many animals. The paws are almost sculpless in the bottom. No pads technically! Face looks slightly antropomorphic with very rounded eyes orbitals when we see very straight lines in this area of a face of a lion. General proportions look not correct. Back legs are too spread, if it is a bad thing in Papo figures it would also be considered in Schleich. Colouring is completly wrong in all the figure but it everybody already noticed. It also have some nice points, of course. It is an pleasant figure, a friendly looking for kids and a pose that works very nice in catalogues! The playbility is poor, mainly in a hunter but it is not a problem for me, only too static for dioramas! Other lions also have some flaws but for me the Schleich is not one of the best surely! :) I also don't like the young Schleich or roaring Papo, but those are personal opinions! Mojo and Papo King of the jungle are the most apreciated but we need even better lions. Don't worry, all brands remake them very often! |
| | | WILLYBACOMAN
Country/State : Zwolle, The Netherlands Age : 62 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 6087
| Subject: Re: Mojo lion: the best lion figurine at the market? Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:03 am | |
| I understand that some people will defend their own best choice, or just because they feel they have to defend the brand they are presenting here on the forum, but i think you must choose independent about cases like this, and that is not easy in some cases, i understand... Anyway, from the last modern lions, the Mojö is the best, but with flaws indeed... I said from the beginning that the shape of the head was not good on this model, a little bit to cornered, and he is missing the chin indeed, which is very typical for a lion or lioness... And i think, that in a male lion, which is old enough to develope black or dark manes, the manes should be longer or at least bigger, as this comes together in older male lions. The muzzle is another problem... _________________ http://www.collectorsquest.com/collector/1313/willybacoman
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