papo 2012 caiman or baby Croc ?

I am not sure if he is available yet, but does anyone have the Papo baby crocodile (not the white one)? I would love to see a pic and see how he compares to the Schleich and Mojo ones. The adult Papo is much too big for me. I like their side view with mouths open like they are snapping at something passing by...



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I have not seen it yet.
TGF does not even have it yet, so I suppose it will not be available untill autum

I wouldn't hold my breath. I got the adult one and the paintjob is so drab compared to the catalog shot. You can see it in my collection (click on my signature). I doubt the juvenile's paintjob will be any better once you see it in person.

Metallisuchus wrote:

I wouldn't hold my breath. I got the adult one and the paintjob is so drab compared to the catalog shot. You can see it in my collection (click on my signature). I doubt the juvenile's paintjob will be any better once you see it in person.

Still not in shop here

About the painting, I'm afraid PAPO is walking down the stairs with some models

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I think it's in stock on wonderland models
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I think he is available everywhere, except in France ( as usual)

Croc day! Thanks for showing Susanne and congratulations! :)

Thankyou, Roger

The little guy is enormously cute, and I think the paintjob is beautyful...but I like the paintjob of the mom also

Beautiful !!!

thanks so much susanne for the photos --he does look like a juvenile. Since I posted this post I did end up getting the adult Papo croc and he is great--A little bigger than my other crocs but he will be the dominent one of the river...

luka075 wrote:

Beautiful !!!

I agree

SeanieP wrote:

thanks so much susanne for the photos --he does look like a juvenile. Since I posted this post I did end up getting the adult Papo croc and he is great--A little bigger than my other crocs but he will be the dominent one of the river...

Wise decision

He is quite big, but so detailed!!! I would like to get my hands on this one!

Wildheart wrote:

He is quite big, but so detailed!!! I would like to get my hands on this one!

Yes, you are right. He is not a newny hatched croc
In my opinion he is one of the candidates of being the best Papo model this year

Oh awesome. Thank you for the pictures Susanne! I need to get that. But along with the Oryx and the Reindeer, I'm still waiting. (Unless it is out on TGF and they neglected to announce it. I've been out of touch this last week.)

I'm excited to see it. I really like the Papo dogs this year -- the Mastiff, Bull Terrier, and good old "Cassis" -- so I'm curious to know if the Oryx or little Crocodile will beat all those.

p.s. two other notes I have to add. One, I agree with Susanne that the paint job on the new croc looks great (but I liked the adult papo croc and its paint too). Two, I just noticed that the new White-colored Adult Papo Crocodile is really pricey. $17? yikes.

The juvenile croc have a very nice details.

Decent figure, but won't purchase. Those of you who do, enjoy.

ken yeo wrote:

The juvenile croc have a very nice details.

I think so too
And for once the paintwork is really, really nice

I'm digging up an old topic here, but I am interested on any current members views on this. To me this baby croc is very similar to a caiman, more caiman than baby croc and very similar to a spectacled caiman as said before here.

At the moment I would like to add this to my collection as a spectacled caiman unless someone can tell me why I shouldn't...?

Yes, it could be named as spectacled caiman, but I think it has to be a baby
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This is a classic type of debate. Here are my 2 cents...

This model is MARKETED as a juvenile/baby croc and is intended to pair with the adult.

However, it LOOKS very much so like a caiman, and I see no reason why it cant be a baby croc OR a caiman for YOUR collection. Who cares what anybody else thinks? Unless you are looking for general taxonomic differences (in which case I cant help on this topic). But I think it can be whatever you feel it looks like best. I hope this helps.

Saarlooswolfhound wrote:

This is a classic type of debate. Here are my 2 cents...

This model is MARKETED as a juvenile/baby croc and is intended to pair with the adult.

However, it LOOKS very much so like a caiman, and I see no reason why it cant be a baby croc OR  a caiman for YOUR collection. Who cares what anybody else thinks? Unless you are looking for general taxonomic differences (in which case I cant help on this topic). But I think it can be whatever you feel it looks like best. I hope this helps.

Saarlooswolfhound wrote:

This is a classic type of debate. Here are my 2 cents...

This model is MARKETED as a juvenile/baby croc and is intended to pair with the adult.

However, it LOOKS very much so like a caiman, and I see no reason why it cant be a baby croc OR  a caiman for YOUR collection. Who cares what anybody else thinks? Unless you are looking for general taxonomic differences (in which case I cant help on this topic). But I think it can be whatever you feel it looks like best. I hope this helps.

Thanks and yes I have no problems with naming my own species for a figure, it is as you asked unless anyone can tell me why I shouldn't. In other words someone with more knowledge than me of the species. Sorry I might not have made this clear initially.

Steve170 wrote:

Saarlooswolfhound wrote:

This is a classic type of debate. Here are my 2 cents...

This model is MARKETED as a juvenile/baby croc and is intended to pair with the adult.

However, it LOOKS very much so like a caiman, and I see no reason why it cant be a baby croc OR  a caiman for YOUR collection. Who cares what anybody else thinks? Unless you are looking for general taxonomic differences (in which case I cant help on this topic). But I think it can be whatever you feel it looks like best. I hope this helps.

Thanks and yes I have no problems with naming my own species for a figure, it is as you asked unless anyone can tell me why I shouldn't. In other words someone with more knowledge than me of the species. Sorry I might not have made this clear initially.

Obviously we can use it as whatever we want but I also find it a very interesting debate. I can't be sure myself of what happened here. Does the sculptor had a caiman done and Papo found it viable for a baby crocodile? Does it was supposed to be introduced as a caiman and later Papo found it more marketable as a baby for their large croc? Is it a juvenile croc that resulted quite similar to a caiman? I find it interesting but I have some observations.
Spectacled caimans have a spectacle shaped ridge between their eyes, can you see it in this figure? I can't but it may not be easy to spot. If it is missing it, why would the sculptor ignore the feature that contributes decisively to the identification of the species?
Now going to other side of the subject, do it looks like a Nile crocodile baby? Crocodile babies have heads completely different from their parents, they look actually like alligatorid heads. Though, it seems obvious that this figure is not close to what we expect from a Nile crocodile baby. Not for sure a hatchling and unlikely a juvenile.
So, isn't it a youngster? The dentition, not easy to represent in a toy, looks more adjusted for a juvenile. limbs also look relatively delicate and torso is really narrow. Apparently, we don't have a baby neither an adulte, it is a juvenile specimen, in my opinion.
Though, it looks much more like an alligatorid than a crocodile. I hope I helped to turn it even more cofuse.