Species identification topic

That's a point and it is not useless to find a good match to this Lineol exactly because of what Andreas said.
I also keep in serious doubts, when I look to the animal I see a Northern fur seal, it has even the shallow and pointy snout they describe. Sounds like a paradoxal description but it is not. Though, as Isidro pointed, hind flippers are really the most important factor to determine the difference between both genera. Unless I am not interpreting correctly the pose of the animal, back flippers look really too short for a Northern fur seal. I think Yvette or Robert know probably from which exact specimen this figure was sculpted.

Pardofelis wrote:

Apparently Berlin zoo kept Cape fur seal (Arctocephalus pusillus pusillus) in 1929, if I interpret correctly this:

"Ehemalige Haltungen:
1929 bis mind. 1941;
vormalige Zucht zuletzt 1941
Welterstzucht 1939"

And it also kept Northern fur seal (Callorhinus ursinus) in 1933 if I interpret correctly this (I know zero of German language, sorry):

"1933 bis Ende 30er Jahre
2013 - 2017
keine Zucht"

So, we didn't solved nothing as Berlin zoo kept both species in the 30s!!! (and also Arctocephalus australis, but much later, in the 70s)

Roger wrote:

That's a point and it is not useless to find a good match to this Lineol exactly because of what Andreas said.
I also keep in serious doubts, when I look to the animal I see a Northern fur seal, it has even the shallow and pointy snout they describe. Sounds like a paradoxal description but it is not. Though, as Isidro pointed, hind flippers are really the most important factor to determine the difference between both genera. Unless I am not interpreting correctly the pose of the animal, back flippers look really too short for a Northern fur seal. I think Yvette or Robert know probably from which exact specimen this figure was sculpted.

The model was first produced in 1940. What was the Fur seals in Berlin zoo then ? As I can see on Isidro reply, it could be the Cape fur seal.

Banteng or badly painted Gaur ?

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Kikimalou wrote:

Banteng or badly painted Gaur ?

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More Banteng i think. But what brand?

I guess it is a Jecsan

Kikimalou wrote:

I guess it is a Jecsan

Thanks

The brand's catalog is listed as zebu

Stripedhyena wrote:

The brand's catalog is listed as zebu

I'm not surprised even if it hasn't a zebu bump and has Banteng's hairdress.

This is what happens when you cross a zebu with a banteng. Madura cattle, also known as dancing cattle.
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What breed is this dog?
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I would guess it is a generic dog, a mixed breed. Nothing seems to fit any breed exactly.

Maybe an aurochs? Weird anyhow. Thrift store lot find.
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pipsxlch wrote:

I would guess it is a generic dog, a mixed breed. Nothing seems to fit any breed exactly.

Maybe an aurochs? Weird anyhow. Thrift store lot find.
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Aurochs or prehistoric bison.

I would say it looks something like a bison latifrans. Really great catch! I have gotten to get up close and personal to some of these specimens. Must have been magnificent animals indeed. Would love for Safari to make one. 

Roger, I'd say "mutt" or mixed breed too. Very cute and fluffy but no definite breed characteristics.

That's a really interesting little bovid! The snout looks a little like a takin, but I agree it's probably supposed to be one of the extinct bison.

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

rogerpgvg wrote:

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

Such a gorgeous little playful dog, and yes I would guess mixed breed too!
Do you know the brand/ age of the model? What country it was produced in? That might give a clue as to the dog's breed!

What kind of Terrier it is ?

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Perhaps it could be an Cairn terrier ?

What a wonderful little dog!!!
When I saw him I immediately thought Sealyham Terrier- colouring and shape are very similar! But then it could be an attempt at a white Scottish Terrier, although the ears aren't quite right for this breed- it probably depends on when this model was made, and by what brand! But I think I would say Sealyham, hope this helps!

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

Such a gorgeous little playful dog, and yes I would guess mixed breed too!
Do you know the brand/ age of the model? What country it was produced in? That might give a clue as to the dog's breed!

It was made by Britains between 1970 and 1974.

For such an ignorant about dogs as I am it is amazing how complex this subject can be.
I am limited to my pop culture and I immediately thought it was Milu, Tintin's dog. A Fox Terrier. Only recently I've found that there are several similar Terrier breeds.

rogerpgvg wrote:

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

Such a gorgeous little playful dog, and yes I would guess mixed breed too!
Do you know the brand/ age of the model? What country it was produced in? That might give a clue as to the dog's breed!

It was made by Britains between 1970 and 1974.

Thanks for the information! Yes I think mixed breed dog fits best!

Roger wrote:

For such an ignorant about dogs as I am it is amazing how complex this subject can be.
I am limited to my pop culture and I immediately thought it was Milu, Tintin's dog. A Fox Terrier. Only recently I've found that there are several similar Terrier breeds.

Oh yes, it could easily be this too! I find that even if a model looks more like one breed, it could have been made with the intention of being another- sometimes brands seem to do this!

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

Such a gorgeous little playful dog, and yes I would guess mixed breed too!
Do you know the brand/ age of the model? What country it was produced in? That might give a clue as to the dog's breed!

It was made by Britains between 1970 and 1974.

Thanks for the information! Yes I think mixed breed dog fits best!

It is a monochromatic Vitaculp model.

I searched for Britains and I only found this very old lead figure.
Is Roger refering to the plastic version of this model?

Roger wrote:

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Bonnie wrote:

rogerpgvg wrote:

Thank you! I couldn't find a white dog that looks like that, so a mixed breed makes sense.

Such a gorgeous little playful dog, and yes I would guess mixed breed too!
Do you know the brand/ age of the model? What country it was produced in? That might give a clue as to the dog's breed!

It was made by Britains between 1970 and 1974.

Thanks for the information! Yes I think mixed breed dog fits best!

It is a monochromatic Vitaculp model.

I searched for Britains and I only found this very old lead figure.
Is Roger refering to the plastic version of this model?

Thank you so much for the link! I think looking at the date of this figure it must almost definitely be a Sealyham as they had a surge of popularity around this time, being owned by many famous people! Sadly now though this terrier is a vulnerable native breed here, after being so popular it seems that recently it has become more of a rarity to see in daily life.
And Roger is referring to the little white dog on the Britains model of the boy throwing the stick!