Species identification topic

That picture is not good to sho the difference and a shorter horn is not a faithful feature because not all Southern white rhinos have long hors. I think the Wikipedia picture is relatively good, you can see the straight back and a modest hump. Those Northern white rhinos look somewhat like cows.

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Roger wrote:

That picture is not good to sho the difference and a shorter horn is not a faithful feature because not all Southern white rhinos have long hors. I think the Wikipedia picture is relatively good, you can see the straight back and a modest hump. Those Northern white rhinos look somewhat like cows.

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True, his back looks different, straighter, and his hump looks somewhat round, but not like a hump.

What do you think - a treeshrew?

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widukind wrote:

What do you think - a treeshrew?

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I say that it is a shrew, but I would say that the common one

Leoo Past wrote:

widukind wrote:

What do you think - a treeshrew?

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I say that it is a shrew, but I would say that the common one

With that kind of tail i dont think so

widukind wrote:

Leoo Past wrote:

widukind wrote:

What do you think - a treeshrew?

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I say that it is a shrew, but I would say that the common one

With that kind of tail i dont think so

From its appearance it seems so, but the color is darker than the common one.

Is there a realistic chance of knowing what breed of donkey this might be from Safari: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I will be getting the brown version as a bycatch in an eBay lot and deciding whether or not to keep it.

I am not sure it is a specific breed of donkey. The light bay color with the white legs is a bit unusual for a donkey. The Pyrenean Donkey often has a bay color but not with those white legs...

Shanti wrote:

I am not sure it is a specific breed of donkey. The light bay color with the white legs is a bit unusual for a donkey. The Pyrenean Donkey often has a bay color but not with those white legs...

I don't think either but most of these classic representations of donkeys are based on the Andalusian donkey in pangaré color. For American donkeys, I think the Jackstock can show this color too. Nevertheless, I think we have better donkey figures than this one by Safari.

Roger wrote:

Shanti wrote:

I am not sure it is a specific breed of donkey. The light bay color with the white legs is a bit unusual for a donkey. The Pyrenean Donkey often has a bay color but not with those white legs...

I don't think either but most of these classic representations of donkeys are based on the Andalusian donkey in pangaré color.

What makes you say that? You've piqued my curiosity

The Andalusian donkey, is an ancient breed native to the province of Córdoba in Andalusia, southern Spain. Descended from the domesticated donkeys of North Africa, these hardy animals were perfectly adapted to the rugged terrain, water scarcity, and hot climate of the region. In fact, donkeys were far more common than horses in Andalusia, and the Andalusian donkey was essentially the only donkey breed used throughout the area.
The ancestors of the Andalusian donkey were highly prized by the Roman Empire and were also the ideal companions for explorers on their long voyages. Just as the Andalusian horse gave rise to nearly all the horse breeds of the New World, the Andalusian donkey had a profound influence on the development of American donkey breeds.
Even in literature, although the breed of Sancho Panza's donkey is not specified, it is more than likely that it was an Andalusian donkey. There is hardly another donkey so well-known in literature.
In the 20th century, when various forms of tourist promotion began to be used, whether through postcards, tourist brochures, or other means, southern Spain's tourism industry extensively used the Andalusian donkey as the main symbol of the region. These donkeys were therefore a common presence in the popular imagination.
Just as the donkey of Provence is the epitome of the image of a traditional donkey for a Frenchman, the Andalusian donkey is the epitome of what a donkey looks like for much of the Western world, especially the Mediterranean region and the New World.

Just to be clear, this donkey will be bycatch in a small eBay lot I bought specifically for the Safari IC sockeye salmon. I was deciding if it would be worth keeping. IF it can be reliably ascribed to a specific breed, I'll consider it. If not, I will give it to one of my co-workers for their kids.

Roger wrote:

The Andalusian donkey, is an ancient breed native to the province of Córdoba in Andalusia, southern Spain. Descended from the domesticated donkeys of North Africa, these hardy animals were perfectly adapted to the rugged terrain, water scarcity, and hot climate of the region. In fact, donkeys were far more common than horses in Andalusia, and the Andalusian donkey was essentially the only donkey breed used throughout the area.
The ancestors of the Andalusian donkey were highly prized by the Roman Empire and were also the ideal companions for explorers on their long voyages. Just as the Andalusian horse gave rise to nearly all the horse breeds of the New World, the Andalusian donkey had a profound influence on the development of American donkey breeds.
Even in literature, although the breed of Sancho Panza's donkey is not specified, it is more than likely that it was an Andalusian donkey. There is hardly another donkey so well-known in literature.
In the 20th century, when various forms of tourist promotion began to be used, whether through postcards, tourist brochures, or other means, southern Spain's tourism industry extensively used the Andalusian donkey as the main symbol of the region. These donkeys were therefore a common presence in the popular imagination.
Just as the donkey of Provence is the epitome of the image of a traditional donkey for a Frenchman, the Andalusian donkey is the epitome of what a donkey looks like for much of the Western world, especially the Mediterranean region and the New World.

 As for me, the first donkeys to populate the Americas were the Catalans, as the Andalusians were banned from leaving the country until the 18th century.
The grey models with a black bar on the shoulder remind me more of Italian or French breeds.
I don't think there is an epitome for donkeys in France, many regions have a specific donkey and everyone is chauvinistic.

bmathison1972 wrote:

Just to be clear, this donkey will be bycatch in a small eBay lot I bought specifically for the Safari IC sockeye salmon. I was deciding if it would be worth keeping. IF it can be reliably ascribed to a specific breed, I'll consider it. If not, I will give it to one of my co-workers for their kids.

I don't think this donkey has a breed.

Kikimalou wrote:

Roger wrote:

The Andalusian donkey, is an ancient breed native to the province of Córdoba in Andalusia, southern Spain. Descended from the domesticated donkeys of North Africa, these hardy animals were perfectly adapted to the rugged terrain, water scarcity, and hot climate of the region. In fact, donkeys were far more common than horses in Andalusia, and the Andalusian donkey was essentially the only donkey breed used throughout the area.
The ancestors of the Andalusian donkey were highly prized by the Roman Empire and were also the ideal companions for explorers on their long voyages. Just as the Andalusian horse gave rise to nearly all the horse breeds of the New World, the Andalusian donkey had a profound influence on the development of American donkey breeds.
Even in literature, although the breed of Sancho Panza's donkey is not specified, it is more than likely that it was an Andalusian donkey. There is hardly another donkey so well-known in literature.
In the 20th century, when various forms of tourist promotion began to be used, whether through postcards, tourist brochures, or other means, southern Spain's tourism industry extensively used the Andalusian donkey as the main symbol of the region. These donkeys were therefore a common presence in the popular imagination.
Just as the donkey of Provence is the epitome of the image of a traditional donkey for a Frenchman, the Andalusian donkey is the epitome of what a donkey looks like for much of the Western world, especially the Mediterranean region and the New World.

 As for me, the first donkeys to populate the Americas were the Catalans, as the Andalusians were banned from leaving the country until the 18th century.
The grey models with a black bar on the shoulder remind me more of Italian or French breeds.
I don't think there is an epitome for donkeys in France, many regions have a specific donkey and everyone is chauvinistic.

bmathison1972 wrote:

Just to be clear, this donkey will be bycatch in a small eBay lot I bought specifically for the Safari IC sockeye salmon. I was deciding if it would be worth keeping. IF it can be reliably ascribed to a specific breed, I'll consider it. If not, I will give it to one of my co-workers for their kids.

I don't think this donkey has a breed.

The fact you mention Catalan donkeys were the first populating Americas is consistent with what I read. The typical donkey cross on Andalusian donkeys come in many colors and the dark cross is also common for the breed.
I confess the Provence donkey assumption was a personal one through the fact of Papo favoring the breed and the French chauvinism is very well known here. Funny it also works regionally.
About the fact the Safari model is not supposed to represent a breed is something I agree completely.

Can anybody help please , Kaiyodo Animatales Choco serie 1

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Many thanks

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Can anybody help please , Kaiyodo Animatales Choco serie 1

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Many thanks

that is the Okinawa tree lizard, Diploderma polygonatum (formerly known as Japalura polygonata).

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Thank you

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I would agree that the Safari Ltd donkey is just that a donkey!This represents what most people would think is a donkey-usually a grey/brown animal with or without a shoulder cross.If we look at other makers like Britains,Marolin,AAA and even Schelich they all just made grey/brown donkeys.

Just looks like a red/white domestic cow to me.

Taos wrote:

Just looks like a red/white domestic cow to me.

So there is nothing about banteng or another species like that?

Certainly hasn't the colouration for a Banteng or even a Bali cow and the body shape is incorrect.Not heavy enough,correct colour or horn shape for a Gayal/Mithun.

Taos wrote:

Certainly hasn't the colouration for a Banteng or even a Bali cow and the body shape is incorrect.Not heavy enough,correct colour or horn shape for a Gayal/Mithun.

Haber si se puede saber el fabricante o marca y en qué set venía

Leoo Past wrote:

Taos wrote:

Certainly hasn't the colouration for a Banteng or even a Bali cow and the body shape is incorrect.Not heavy enough,correct colour or horn shape for a Gayal/Mithun.

Haber si se puede saber el fabricante o marca y en qué set venía

To ask the brand, better to use [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - about the cow identification I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and I usually trust his identifications.

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