Our choices for Mojo 2013?

Well! let,s play game!

- Prehistoric mammals: Indricotherium, Arctodus (short-muzzle bear), Bronthoterium



- Dinosaurs: Giraffatitan, Amphicoelias, Seismosaurus




- Birds: King vulture, Japanese crane, Cassowary

- Reptiles: Anaconda, Gharial, Tree boa

- Africa: Pygmean hippo, Serval, Fossa

- Asia: Hymalayan bear, Sun (Malayan) bear or Sloth bear, Clouded Leopard

- Primates: Proboscis Monkey, Drill, Sifaka

- Sea life: Blue whale (1:32), Right Whale (1:32), Leopard Seal

- South America: Ocelot, Spectacled Bear, Jaguarundi

- North America: Puma, Bobcat, North American Porcupine

- Europe: Wisent, Wild cat, Pyrenees lynx

my list for what its worth........


-prehistoric mammals- THYLACINE, INDRICOTHERE- SCALED TO SHOW HOW BIG THEY WERE!, BULL COLOMBIAN MAMMOTH
- Birds- SHOEBILL STORK, CASSOWARY, CROWNED CRANE
- Reptiles- STRIKING ANACONDA, GAHRIAL, LARGE AGGRESIVE FIGHTING POSED SALTWATER CROC
- Africa- GEMSBOK WALKING HEAD LOW , PRANCING GREVYS ZEBRA STALLION, BONGO
- Asia- CLOUDED LEOPARD, WILD ASIATIC WATER BUFFALO, BABIRUSA
- Primates- COLOBUS, DIANA MONKEY, GELADA BABOON
- Sea life- GREAT AUK, EIDER DUCK, LEOPARD SEAL
- South America- BRAZILIAN TAPIR, MANED WOLF, REALLY NICE SNARLING BLACK JAGUAR
- North America- DALL SHEEP, COLLARED PECCARY, WHOOPING CRANE- WINGS OUTSTRETCHED DISPLAYING
- Europe- FALLOW DEER BUCK, SAIGA, AUROCH BULL BELLOWING/PAWING GROUND


BUT , to be honest MOJO WOULD DO WELL TO PUT OUT ANIMALS COMMON IN ZOOS AND SAFARI PARKS WORLDWIDE FOR STOCKING ZOO GIFT SHOPS WITH.
EVERY zoo Ive worked in , the gift shops always ask for animals which they have in the zoo as thats what the public ask for.ITS A BIG MARKET.
so that list would read differently with more emphesis on "AFRICAN AND ASIAN ".....[ A POPULAR TOP 10 ]
ANKOLE CATTLE
FALLOW DEER
RED LECHWE ANTELOPE
NEWBORN AFRICAN & ASIAN ELEPHANT CALVES
FLAMINGO
HAMADRYAS BABOON
RHESUS MACAQUE
RUFFED LEMUR- in the black and white /red colour variants- same model double sales!
RINGTAILED LEMUR
ELAND

-prehistoric mammals-GIANT ANTLER DEER, THYLACINE, WOLLY RINO
- Birds- GOLDEN PHEASANTS(1:20 SCALE- TO FEET FOR MY ANIMAL FARM), CASSOWARY, SECRETARY BIRD.
- Reptiles- CROTAL SNAKE, GAVIAL, GEKO
- Africa- DAMA GAZELLE , SABLE FEMALE AND CALF, BONGO
- Asia- CLOUDED LEOPARD, SNOW LEOPARD, RED PANDA ( IN SCALE)
- Primates- GOLDEN TAMARIN, MARMOSET MONKEY, VENEZUELEAN RED HOWLERS
- Sea life- ELEPHANT SEAL , LEOPARD SEAL, WALRUS FAMILY
- South America- GIANT ANTHER, MANED WOLF,SLOTH
- North America- BIG HORN SHEEP,COUGAR, REINDEER
- Europe- FALLOW DEER , SAIGA, WINSENT

btw

is somebody writing all these choices down and is making a list?
our is MOJO watching with us,, and are they making a list?
i know they started on facebook a list,
so wil this list also go to MOJO?

martien

Why don't we build up a consensus list and present it to Mojo? We did it before with the sable antelope.

STORMnl wrote:

btw

is somebody writing all these choices down and is making a list?
our is MOJO watching with us,, and are they making a list?
i know they started on facebook a list,
so wil this list also go to MOJO?

martien

ze_neto wrote:

Why don't we build up a consensus list and present it to Mojo? We did it before with the sable antelope.

Because this choice is public, on FB also. The Sable was STS choice

Indeed it was, Robert. But unlike other companies (such as Schleich) Mojo has clearly shown that is interested on our opinions. As far as I can see, it would be very impressive if our forum presented a unified list with the animals we wish to purchase. We're selecting such an array of amazing animals, let's build up on our own ideas.
Because this choice is public, on FB also. The Sable was STS choice [/quote]

Well, we can try. If out taste matches with Mojo's thoughts about what should be on the market, there's a big chance we'll see it produced ...

I totally agree with you! I think we can do the following: many of us already placed some lists... that's our raw material. Let's build up a unified version of all these lists (at least that's how Mojo is acting on FB).

skysthelimit wrote:

Well, we can try. If out taste matches with Mojo's thoughts about what should be on the market, there's a big chance we'll see it produced ...

Hello guys,
As you can see, me and Robert were discussing about building up a consensus list of our forum. That's my contribution and I hope we can do it with all categoris.

Birds:
9 votes: Cassowary
6 votes: Shoebill
5 votes: Saddle-billed Stork
4 votes: Kiwi, Secretary bird
3 votes: Emu, Great Hornbill, Japanese Crane, Knobbed Hornbill, Palm cockatoo
2 votes: African Crowned Crane, king vulture, Marabou Stork, Spix's Macaw, Wandering albatross
1 votes: Abyssinian Ground Hornbill, adjutant, African Grey Parrot, Anhinga, California Quail, California Condor, Capercaillie, Congo peafowl, Cormorant, Elephant bird, Frigatebird, Golden Eagle, goliath heron, Golden pheasant, Great Grey Owl, Guineafowl (preferably Vulturine Guineafowl), Harpy eagle, Lyre bird, Moa, Nubian Vulture, Philippine Eagle, red cardinals (pair), rhinoceros hornbill, Scarlet Ibis, Scarlet Macaw, Stellar Sea Eagle, White-Headed Vulture, Wood duck, Whooping Crane

As you can see, the cassouary won by a landslide.
Here is the list presented on Mojo Facebook page:
Birds:
1st Nubian Vulture and Cassowary 4 votes
2nd Guinea Fowl (Vulturine) and Secretary Bird 3 votes
3rd Harpy Eagle and Kiwi 2 votes

Let's think about something. Many of us casted the votes on animals of similar species: Hornbills (Great, Abyssinian Ground, Knobbed, rhinoceros); Eagles (Golden, Harpy, Philippine, Stellar Sea), Cranes (African Crowned, Japanese Crane, Whooping), Vultures (king, Nubian, White-Headed). Perhaps we could choose just one of each kind in our unified list, what do you thinK

skysthelimit wrote:

Well, we can try. If out taste matches with Mojo's thoughts about what should be on the market, there's a big chance we'll see it produced ...

You already did a great job with the birds, thankyou

We have :
9 votes: Cassowary
6 votes: Shoebill
5 votes: Saddle-billed Stork
4 votes: Kiwi, Secretary bird
3 votes: Emu, Great Hornbill, Japanese Crane, Knobbed Hornbill, Palm cockatoo


If we took the first 5 :
Cassowary, Shoebill,Saddle-billed Stork, Kiwi, and Secretary bird and vote about them.
They are already ranked, but the people who did not mention them should also have a say, I think.

And perhaps "hornbill" too, as there are many of those. And if you vite on "hornbill" mention which one ?

And repeat this for the other "headings" like Africa, Europe etc..
Just an idea.

In case we can aggree on this, I voluntere for one "heading", only not the prehistoric as I know so little about them, and many are similar

Hi Susanne! Thanks for your words!
The idea is precisely that: we can do this work with each of profiles and vote en bloc! It would be awesome if you do it with another one!
I also agree with your line: Cassowary, Shoebill,Saddle-billed Stork, Kiwi, Secretary bird and a Hornbill.

SUSANNE wrote:

You already did a great job with the birds, thankyou

We have :
9 votes: Cassowary
6 votes: Shoebill
5 votes: Saddle-billed Stork
4 votes: Kiwi, Secretary bird
3 votes: Emu, Great Hornbill, Japanese Crane, Knobbed Hornbill, Palm cockatoo


If we took the first 5 :
Cassowary, Shoebill,Saddle-billed Stork, Kiwi, and Secretary bird and vote about them.
They are already ranked, but the people who did not mention them should also have a say, I think.

And perhaps "hornbill" too, as there are many of those. And if you vite on "hornbill" mention which one ?

And repeat this for the other "headings" like Africa, Europe etc..
Just an idea.

In case we can aggree on this, I voluntere for one "heading", only not the prehistoric as I know so little about them, and many are similar

Ok, I pick the European animals, - I (ought to ) know those

Of course we must allow time for people to object.
But I will start counting
If somebody think this is an awful idea, - no harm done

Who has time to count the other ones ?

I have time to count all, I'm not making it at the moment because it is almost useless, people always edit their choices. I agree with you, more than count it is important to study the choices. When people talk about Cassowary which one of 3 species are people talking about? Easy, we can accept here that it is the Southern one that is the most known. But I see many people wanting wild sheep, very similar but of different species and ranked under different faunas. Which one to choose, here? So, this strategy only solve some problems! But, if you want to pick a category, count the most voted and try to persuade people to vote in one of the more voted., that's good. But please pm me telling me which categories you will pick. Susanne goes to Europe, Zé Neto to the birds, Martien to prehistoric mammals, I don't mind to go to South America, but I need to study it very close to who will pick North America because there are people voting in species present widely in the two regions! :)

I' m just making a board with all our whishes I hope I will finished it tonight.

It could be easily change and it will count animals in all categories because some of them can already be found in more than one category

yes i made something lose here,,

lets count wha ha

good that people helping each other

did i read it correct,
is roger making a full List?

When Mojo tell me to stop, I'll lock the topic to prevent more editions.
At this moment I count everything and study to see if there are any kind of animal popular mixing the categories.
The STS list will be joined to the Facebook list.
But if anyone want to present rankings it would be nice because we can always edit our choices according with the most voted in these lists.
Mojo will study the list and surely will not make all the winers but probably to pick a group of figures that are interesting for Mojo and collectors! :)

You don't have to do them all, pnly those which still without an organizer.

Kikimalou wrote:

I' m just making a board with all our whishes I hope I will finished it tonight.

It could be easily change and it will count animals in all categories because some of them can already be found in more than one category

Hello Roger. I agree with you, we must study our choices before handing them to Mojo. On the other hand, to choose among three different species of cassowary we must first decide that we want a cassowary... I think this team work will help our group to feel more responsible for each selection. You're right about keeping in touch with other members that are doing this table just like us. It is not only important, it is essential! And I hope everyone work with us.

Roger wrote:

I have time to count all, I'm not making it at the moment because it is almost useless, people always edit their choices. I agree with you, more than count it is important to study the choices. When people talk about Cassowary which one of 3 species are people talking about? Easy, we can accept here that it is the Southern one that is the most known. But I see many people wanting wild sheep, very similar but of different species and ranked under different faunas. Which one to choose, here? So, this strategy only solve some problems! But, if you want to pick a category, count the most voted and try to persuade people to vote in one of the more voted., that's good. But please pm me telling me which categories you will pick. Susanne goes to Europe, Zé Neto to the birds, Martien to prehistoric mammals, I don't mind to go to South America, but I need to study it very close to who will pick North America because there are people voting in species present widely in the two regions! :)

Roger, you saw the work I did with the birds: is that in the apropriate shape or needs any change?

Roger wrote:

When Mojo tell me to stop, I'll lock the topic to prevent more editions.
At this moment I count everything and study to see if there are any kind of animal popular mixing the categories.
The STS list will be joined to the Facebook list.
But if anyone want to present rankings it would be nice because we can always edit our choices according with the most voted in these lists.
Mojo will study the list and surely will not make all the winers but probably to pick a group of figures that are interesting for Mojo and collectors! :)

Ok, here is what I found .


As I understand it :
You can all change your suggestions after seing how it looks now and untill Roger gets a "stop" from Mojo.


SUGGESTIONS FOR EUROPEAN ANIMALS Mojo 2012



Winsent ( European bison) : 9
Fallow deer : 8
(European) mufflon5 ( + Corsican mufflon 2 and Mediterranian mufflon 1) = 8 Mufflons.
Stoat(ermine) and Eurasian otter : 4 each
Wild cat, Arctic hare, Pine marten and Spanish (Pyrenees) lynx : 2 each

Other goats/sheep : Ibex, Wild goat, East Caucasian tur :1 each

Does these belong in ”Asia” ? Saiga 4, Markhor 2, Marbled polecat 1

These also got 1 vote :
Caribou, Norwegian lemming, least weasel, tarpan, roe deer, magot.

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Extinct : Auroch

Some birds have sneaked in : Raven, Pheasant, Marsh harrier and King eider.

From Asia : Armour leopard
From America : Barbary sheep, Mountain sheep.

OK, I will coordinate.
Here are the rules:
I only accept 3 in each category.
if someone shows more than 3 I will only accept the first 3 in a category.
Those kind of animals that have is own category out of faunas are not accepted in fauna choices. For example, I'm choosing a penguin in sea life and if I don't change it it will be ignored or introduced in birds series if there's a space left. The same for reptiles.
Species presented in more than one category because they are present in more than one fauna I will join the votes and considere it in their most apropriate category. How can we know to which fauna belongs a wolverine or a moose?
If you want you can edit your original topics and only the original topic will be considered.
If someone wants to present some ranking to turn other votes more useful there's nothing wrong in it.


Only an example:
Top 6 North America at the moment in STS only:
Puma: 8 votes
pronghorn and Dall's sheep: 7 votes
Elk and bighorn sheep: 5 votes
Mule deer: 4 votes

Many hseep, here, there's still a vote to Stone sheep and sheep are not leading!

Basically, in "fauna" categories are valid choices mammals, amphibians and invertebrates. Is that so?
Following your rule, most voted birds (9 votes: Cassowary; 6 votes: Shoebill; 5 votes: Saddle-billed Stork) would be our choosen species, right?

Roger wrote:

OK, I will coordinate.
Here are the rules:
I only accept 3 in each category.
if someone shows more than 3 I will only accept the first 3 in a category.
Those kind of animals that have is own category out of faunas are not accepted in fauna choices. For example, I'm choosing a penguin in sea life and if I don't change it it will be ignored or introduced in birds series if there's a space left. The same for reptiles.
Species presented in more than one category because they are present in more than one fauna I will join the votes and considere it in their most apropriate category. How can we know to which fauna belongs a wolverine or a moose?
If you want you can edit your original topics and only the original topic will be considered.
If someone wants to present some ranking to turn other votes more useful there's nothing wrong in it.


Only an example:
Top 6 North America at the moment in STS only:
Puma: 8 votes
pronghorn and Dall's sheep: 7 votes
Elk and bighorn sheep: 5 votes
Mule deer: 4 votes

Many hseep, here, there's still a vote to Stone sheep and sheep are not leading!

i count the prehistoric mammals

Zé Neto, thanks for your help with the birds! As I told before it must be studied at the end. I haven't see which species of storks people is choosing but everything will be studied.
You are almost correct, in fauna categories we should not choose, birds, reptiles, primates and sea animals! So, some mammals, fishes, etc, have its own category. It is not easy to create rules with these categories but those were not my choice but Mojo choice.
My original post has also some mistakes and I'll change it. :)

ze_neto wrote:

Basically, in "fauna" categories are valid choices mammals, amphibians and invertebrates. Is that so?
Following your rule, most voted birds (9 votes: Cassowary; 6 votes: Shoebill; 5 votes: Saddle-billed Stork) would be our choosen species, right?

Roger wrote:

OK, I will coordinate.
Here are the rules:
I only accept 3 in each category.
if someone shows more than 3 I will only accept the first 3 in a category.
Those kind of animals that have is own category out of faunas are not accepted in fauna choices. For example, I'm choosing a penguin in sea life and if I don't change it it will be ignored or introduced in birds series if there's a space left. The same for reptiles.
Species presented in more than one category because they are present in more than one fauna I will join the votes and considere it in their most apropriate category. How can we know to which fauna belongs a wolverine or a moose?
If you want you can edit your original topics and only the original topic will be considered.
If someone wants to present some ranking to turn other votes more useful there's nothing wrong in it.


Only an example:
Top 6 North America at the moment in STS only:
Puma: 8 votes
pronghorn and Dall's sheep: 7 votes
Elk and bighorn sheep: 5 votes
Mule deer: 4 votes

Many hseep, here, there's still a vote to Stone sheep and sheep are not leading!