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Ken
Country/State : Germany Age : 39 Joined : 2023-03-02 Posts : 6
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pm | |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7226
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landrover
Country/State : colombia Age : 66 Joined : 2010-11-04 Posts : 5884
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:37 am | |
| Nice group . my favorite is the white buffalo by Safari ltd. |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45638
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:44 am | |
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21147
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:03 am | |
| Nice group, even if the Muskox isn't a buffalo |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:35 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]what joins my collection a buffalo from the 70's hong kong rae brand from noah's ark i had not seen this buffalo is different from other water buffalo |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7226
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:19 am | |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:40 pm | |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45638
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:52 pm | |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:21 pm | |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45638
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:10 am | |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:11 am | |
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21147
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:48 am | |
| Nice Your muskox isn’t a bovid, it is a wild sheep |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:15 am | |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45638
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:05 pm | |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:09 pm | |
| It is a common mistake and in my opinion the common names of this animal are very deceptive. Ox mean bull and the Spanish name is Buey almizclero. Buey is also bull. The same in my language where boi is also bull. Spanish also call oso hormiguero to giant anteaters when oso means bear or Americans call pronghorn antelope to a creature which is not an antelope. Examples like these are quite common. |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:44 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- It is a common mistake and in my opinion the common names of this animal are very deceptive.
Ox mean bull and the Spanish name is Buey almizclero. Buey is also bull. The same in my language where boi is also bull. Spanish also call oso hormiguero to giant anteaters when oso means bear or Americans call pronghorn antelope to a creature which is not an antelope. Examples like these are quite common. Jeje l It usually happens, but what I don't understand is why sometimes the name also gets a little confusing, it's like the ocelot that in some states they call it tigrillo or onza And sometimes people get confused c Or how to say a black panther, when it is a black or melanistic jaguar |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:45 am | |
| - Leoo Past wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- It is a common mistake and in my opinion the common names of this animal are very deceptive.
Ox mean bull and the Spanish name is Buey almizclero. Buey is also bull. The same in my language where boi is also bull. Spanish also call oso hormiguero to giant anteaters when oso means bear or Americans call pronghorn antelope to a creature which is not an antelope. Examples like these are quite common. Jeje l It usually happens, but what I don't understand is why sometimes the name also gets a little confusing, it's like the ocelot that in some states they call it tigrillo or onza And sometimes people get confused c Or how to say a black panther, when it is a black or melanistic jaguar Often this is just about animal similarities, they call musk ox because it looks like a bull, they call pronghorn antelope because it looks like an antelope or they call onza because the ocelot looks like a mini jaguar (Panthera onca) which is known as onça or onza in American Latin countries. Black panthers is not a mistake. Lions, tigers, leopards and jaguars are all panthers. So, both melanistic variations of the jaguar and leopards are correctly called black panthers. Though, the name panther shouldn't be used to Florida panthers because pumas are not panthers. Nevertheless, it would be confuse to change the common names anytime a new scientific study concluded it was wrong. Even many scientific names preserve wrong designations. |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:41 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Leoo Past wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- It is a common mistake and in my opinion the common names of this animal are very deceptive.
Ox mean bull and the Spanish name is Buey almizclero. Buey is also bull. The same in my language where boi is also bull. Spanish also call oso hormiguero to giant anteaters when oso means bear or Americans call pronghorn antelope to a creature which is not an antelope. Examples like these are quite common. Jeje l It usually happens, but what I don't understand is why sometimes the name also gets a little confusing, it's like the ocelot that in some states they call it tigrillo or onza And sometimes people get confused c Or how to say a black panther, when it is a black or melanistic jaguar Often this is just about animal similarities, they call musk ox because it looks like a bull, they call pronghorn antelope because it looks like an antelope or they call onza because the ocelot looks like a mini jaguar (Panthera onca) which is known as onça or onza in American Latin countries. Black panthers is not a mistake. Lions, tigers, leopards and jaguars are all panthers. So, both melanistic variations of the jaguar and leopards are correctly called black panthers. Though, the name panther shouldn't be used to Florida panthers because pumas are not panthers. Nevertheless, it would be confuse to change the common names anytime a new scientific study concluded it was wrong. Even many scientific names preserve wrong designations. It's true that I had not seen it that way, well, panther, yes because of the genus of big cats. But the ocelot and other species similar to the leopard cat later call them literal tigers Although taking advantage, I have a doubt about the buffalo collectA From wild water, it is a true wild buffalo, right?But for example, is the Bandai water buffalo that comes with the breeding also a domestic buffalo or is it more of a domestic buffalo? |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:42 pm | |
| - Leoo Past wrote:
- I have a doubt about the buffalo collectA From wild water, it is a true wild buffalo, right?But for example, is the Bandai water buffalo that comes with the breeding also a domestic buffalo or is it more of a domestic buffalo?
That's actually a good question. While the CollectA model is evidently a wild water buffalo, it is hard to tell the Bandai models. Considering the thematic of the set, it should be a wild water buffalo but honestly, and even considering it is a cow, it look more like the feral buffalos of the Australasian region. They're often featured in documentaries as wild water buffalo but they're just feral population of the domestic (Bubalus bubalis) thus, different from the CollectA model. Nevertheless, I can't be sure. |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:48 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Leoo Past wrote:
- I have a doubt about the buffalo collectA From wild water, it is a true wild buffalo, right?But for example, is the Bandai water buffalo that comes with the breeding also a domestic buffalo or is it more of a domestic buffalo?
That's actually a good question. While the CollectA model is evidently a wild water buffalo, it is hard to tell the Bandai models. Considering the thematic of the set, it should be a wild water buffalo but honestly, and even considering it is a cow, it look more like the feral buffalos of the Australasian region. They're often featured in documentaries as wild water buffalo but they're just feral population of the domestic (Bubalus bubalis) thus, different from the CollectA model. Nevertheless, I can't be sure. On this topic, the Bandai would be like this or a hybrid of domestic and wild like in Sri Lanka, why also There are the Rae buffalo around Hong Kong and Britains, they are also wild or feral domestic.? |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:11 am | |
| - Leoo Past wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- Leoo Past wrote:
- I have a doubt about the buffalo collectA From wild water, it is a true wild buffalo, right?But for example, is the Bandai water buffalo that comes with the breeding also a domestic buffalo or is it more of a domestic buffalo?
That's actually a good question. While the CollectA model is evidently a wild water buffalo, it is hard to tell the Bandai models. Considering the thematic of the set, it should be a wild water buffalo but honestly, and even considering it is a cow, it look more like the feral buffalos of the Australasian region. They're often featured in documentaries as wild water buffalo but they're just feral population of the domestic (Bubalus bubalis) thus, different from the CollectA model. Nevertheless, I can't be sure. On this topic, the Bandai would be like this or a hybrid of domestic and wild like in Sri Lanka, why also There are the Rae buffalo around Hong Kong and Britains, they are also wild or feral domestic.? The Britains is a perfect representation of a domestic water buffalo. There's nothing of a wild water buffalo on it. The model is graceful, the scale is too small for a wild and the color is also better for a domesticated one. Ironically it is part of the Wild series but the model was made after a domestic one. I believe someone more knowledgeable can even tell the exact breed. It doesn't look like the feral ones I mentioned before although it is the same species. The Hong Kong models doesn't have the same level of realism but it wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by the Britains figure. |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:23 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Leoo Past wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- Leoo Past wrote:
- I have a doubt about the buffalo collectA From wild water, it is a true wild buffalo, right?But for example, is the Bandai water buffalo that comes with the breeding also a domestic buffalo or is it more of a domestic buffalo?
That's actually a good question. While the CollectA model is evidently a wild water buffalo, it is hard to tell the Bandai models. Considering the thematic of the set, it should be a wild water buffalo but honestly, and even considering it is a cow, it look more like the feral buffalos of the Australasian region. They're often featured in documentaries as wild water buffalo but they're just feral population of the domestic (Bubalus bubalis) thus, different from the CollectA model. Nevertheless, I can't be sure. On this topic, the Bandai would be like this or a hybrid of domestic and wild like in Sri Lanka, why also There are the Rae buffalo around Hong Kong and Britains, they are also wild or feral domestic.? The Britains is a perfect representation of a domestic water buffalo. There's nothing of a wild water buffalo on it. The model is graceful, the scale is too small for a wild and the color is also better for a domesticated one. Ironically it is part of the Wild series but the model was made after a domestic one. I believe someone more knowledgeable can even tell the exact breed. It doesn't look like the feral ones I mentioned before although it is the same species. The Hong Kong models doesn't have the same level of realism but it wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by the Britains figure. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]One of those you would say wild or domestic |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:36 am | |
| Only the CollectA is (Bubalus arnee). All others are derived from domesticated animals. The problem is that culturally we all modeled the image of this animal from domesticated ones. Your first photo has other buffalo pecies as you know. |
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Leoo Past
Country/State : México Age : 26 Joined : 2021-09-24 Posts : 450
| Subject: Re: Show Us Yours : Buffalo ( Mid December 2013 ) Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:47 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Only the CollectA is (Bubalus arnee). All others are derived from domesticated animals. The problem is that culturally we all modeled the image of this animal from domesticated ones. Your first photo has other buffalo pecies as you know.
But for example, the Rae that is in the middle of the yak would be equivalent as wild and the small one also or the furry one as domestic? |
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