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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:08 pm | |
| Baluchitherium (= baluchistan beast) from Starlux [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Its scientific name is now Paraceratherium (= almost hornless rhino) There were several species. the biggest one, which is commonly represented is "Paraceratherium transouralicum". Bones had been found by the british paleontologist Sir Clive Forster-Cooper in 1909 and 1910 in Bugtis tribe territory. But they belonged to different species and many were missing. So, different reconstructions were proposed, some with rather short necks, others with giraffe-like ones!.. Mr Massat, the Starlux brand sculptor, followed the first proposition, the one with a short neck. We are sure he did'nt follow this Zdenek Burian's painting: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Because of tribal wars, there were no new possibilities to organise expeditions until 1995 when the french paleontologist Jean-Loup Welcomme from Montpellier University could reach Bugtis territory under its Lord's protection. He turned back during few years and, in 1999, found an almost complete skeleton of a single species, the baluchitherium and so, could reconstitute the whole animal. He described it as a gigantic and stocky okapi-like animal in shape. So we have now good reconstructions: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]("Mammals History" from Francis Duranthon, Bréal editions 2006) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]("Mammals of Prehistory" from Alan Turner and Mauricio Anton, Nathan editions 2004) So, if most of baluchitherium replicas show a neck far too long (CollectA), the neck of this Starlux replica seems a little too short!.. other mistake, it would have had only 3 toes and hooves on fore limbs!.. but all these details were unknown in the seventies!.. ..but I wonder which illustration or drawing Mr massat followed to cover the neck of its baluchitherium with a mane!.. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]..what is sure is its big size! (here with a very big indian rhino 2m at shoulder).. baluchitherium is regarded as the biggest terrestrial mammal ever known (weight:15-20 T)! ..but curiously, this replica is one of the smallest of Starlux range! Replicas of this spectacular animal are not very common among vintage brands (Lido Nabisco, Starlux) and modern ones (CollectA) maybe because of its outstanding size!..
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35836
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:23 pm | |
| Paraceratherium is a prehistoric creature that never received much atention from toy animal makers. Despite being the largest of all, it never received atention similar to mamoths, smilodons or woolly rhinos. It doesn't have big tusks, big horn or saber teeth, butits size its so incredible that it could easily serve on its own to turn this creature more popular. Obviously I love again your pictures and all your research around it. The picture with the rhino is also really great! If we get impressed with the size of a rhino anytime we see it, I wonder how it was if we had the chance of seeing a real paraceratherium! |
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costicuba
Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 43 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 4221
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:53 pm | |
| So great diorams you are making Alain ! I really like Paraceratherium and I am waiting for a nice model , for soo long ... But, look, what is comming soon : [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35836
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:50 pm | |
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costicuba
Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 43 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 4221
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:29 pm | |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 am | |
| oh wonderful new Kosta!.. but which country ITOY brand is from please?.. and why "dark Night Beast"?.. Thank to you both Rogério and Kosta! :) |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 72 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:38 am | |
| I enjoy very much to read the stories behind these models /animals Fun thing, - my Paraceratherium is grey |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:56 am | |
| Thank you Susane! :) .. yes, grey is the colour generaly used for large animals (elephants, hippo, rhino..) OK I think I found the illustration Mr Massat sculpted its replica from: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]..same short neck and mane!.. ..it's from this Panini albom: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35836
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:38 am | |
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costicuba
Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 43 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 4221
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:34 pm | |
| - Caracal wrote:
- oh wonderful new Kosta!.. but which country ITOY brand is from please?.. and why "dark Night Beast"?..
Thank to you both Rogério and Kosta! :) ITOY, I`m not 100% sure, but I think it is a chinece company . Till now I saw only dinosaurus from them. This is the first mammal. Why "dark Night Beast"?.. , I have no idea But as we can see from PNSO or REBOR, sometimes, they give strange names to their models. - Roger wrote:
I suspect it is a resin model and surely over 50€. Obviously it will worth the money but for now it is better to be back to my collecting planet. It might be a resin, but also can be a plastic ... ITOY used both for their models. For this model , I think it will be fine for them if they make it from plastic material. About the price, whatching other models from them .. yeah, it can be even over 50€ .. But I have a feeling that soon or later maybe we will see this animal made from Eofauna Alain, I`m sorry that I went off topic |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:35 am | |
| No Kosta, you 're into! Thank you very much for this so exciting information for till now, I could'nt decide myself ordering the too giiraffe-like CollectA one! :) |
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costicuba
Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 43 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 4221
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:08 pm | |
| You are welcome :) - Caracal wrote:
- till now, I could'nt decide myself ordering the too giiraffe-like CollectA one! :)
I had the same dilemma .. but I decided to wait for a better model :) |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:30 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]the fight seems to be fair.. but.. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]( Daeodon from CollectA, stripped hyaenodon from Safari ltd, the other one from Mojo fun)
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45754
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:40 am | |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-15 Posts : 12061
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:30 pm | |
| What a beautiful setting and excellent photos! _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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sbell
Country/State : Canada Age : 49 Joined : 2013-11-05 Posts : 1421
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:08 pm | |
| - Caracal wrote:
- 30 millions years B.P. in North America, Brontotherium (= thunder big beast) from Starlux:
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brontotherium belongs to a disapeared ongulate perissodactyl family close to Rhinos, tapirs and horses ones. It was bigger than contemporaneous white rhino with 2,5m at shoulder! Its eyes were curiously next to muzzle and eated Foliages and fruits..
Here yet, Mr Massat seems to have been inspirated from Zdenek Burian's picture:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I have to say it...I studied Oligocene fossils. From the Whitneyan NALMA, about 31-33 Ma. Brontotheres were extinct before then. Brontotheres were extinct by the end of the Chadronian NALMA (latest Eocene), 34Ma. They are super common fossils from the Eocene sites in southern Saskatchewan, where my field area was. The whole 'Oligocene' thing is actually partially because of the Saskatchewan sites--the dating of the area was messed up when it was discovered in the late 1800s, calling the whole region late Eocene; when the NALMA were developed, the entire Saskatchewan Cypress Hills Fm fossil region was considered a paratype locale. Turns out, it's actually a range of times from the late Palaeocene to the mid-Miocene (seriously, it's an amazing, scattered but unbroken series of time periods within the mid Tertiary, I think about 30 million years of time overall)! So...pedantic rant almost over...the scenes are latest Eocene. They're very nice though. I feel better now. - Caracal wrote:
- Rogerio, when natives Indians were finding big bones of Brontotheriums after strong rains, they thought they were belonging to a kind of giants horses whose full gallops in the clouds, were the explanation of thunder! :)
I've always wondered...what did they think they were before the Spanish reintroduced horses in the 1500s? _________________ I used to have an online store, but now it's a Blog exploring the variety in my collection! Fauna Figures Toys & Collectables [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I'm also a big freshwater fish-figure fan. Know of anything new and exciting? I need to know as well! |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:59 am | |
| ..maybe that they were bones of giant buffaloes.. thank you sbell! :) Many thanks to you too Andreas and Paige! |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45754
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:28 am | |
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Bonnie
Country/State : UK Age : 19 Joined : 2020-10-14 Posts : 5584
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:38 am | |
| Beautiful waterside shots, it's a lovely background to your story with these lovely models! |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:56 pm | |
| Thank you very much Bonnie! :) |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:35 am | |
| somewhere in what is now Pakistan: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.](CollectA last version) |
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Tove
Country/State : Norway Age : 81 Joined : 2012-12-09 Posts : 969
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:28 pm | |
| What is he looking for? A mate? He looks lonesome. Lovely photos as always and a nice model. I have the 2009 Paraceratherium, i like the new better. |
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Caracal
Country/State : France Age : 65 Joined : 2018-10-24 Posts : 7254
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:00 am | |
| maybe!.. You noticed well it is a lonesome male! Thank you Tove! |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35836
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:08 pm | |
| You really want me to like this figure more than I prepared to. those pictures are really beautiful and I like how you try to give the impression of how tall these creatures were. Thatt second picture is priceless! |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45754
| Subject: Re: Oligo-scenes! Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:09 am | |
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