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Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:33 am | |
| I had some time this evening to try to figure out how to get some good pictures for getting identifications, so I practiced on this set of cats I've had since the 90's. I haven't found any more to add, so I'm not waiting on any more packages to arrive, so I figured I'd go ahead and put them out there and see what I get! I am pretty sure they are Club Earth based on how they are stamped (see below). Just like the horses and the extinct animal series, they have the common name/breed and CHINA. Like the horses (and dogs still to be confirmed) they also have a number. I also saw one other collection out on the internet that listed the Birman as a "Cats to Go" set piece. Maybe? I cannot remember how they came to me, whether it was altogether or individually. I am missing several numbers. I only have 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 10. Thank you for any information you might have on these guys!! They were some of my favorites as a kid, I had a whole imaginary world and story built for them. I still remember all their assigned personalities. 1 DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR - 2 variations 4 BURMESE5 SIAMESE6 MANX7 ABYSSINIAN 8 BIRMAN (a bit chewed on by my dog at the time) 10 SOMALI (also has a few dog nibbles) . . . and here's one someone shared a photo of with me, and I am sharing with permission. For all intents and purposes, it looks like part of the same series, but numbered 23!! Implying, if it's a real part of the set, so many other molds? To me, though, it doesn't look exactly the same. The feet and face seem slightly different? And no paint detailing. But the mold stamp does consist of number/breed/CHINA. 23 CAI?? |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:19 pm | |
| Oh, that's what I like and let's start a cat party! Play Visions released two cat sets. The main bulk is this one but they are easily identified once they are marked with the PV logo, breed and number. Though, Play Visions also offered a set of mini cats as you can see on page below. At least, a few moulds seem to be the same as yours, can you confirm? Though, as far as we know, the Play visions minis are just marked China, no logo, number or breed, I guess. Whilst the bulk of 8 cats marked PV are exclusive to Play Visions, these minis are often available in multiple variations through many other brands. Thus, they do not use the logo of the brand. However, as they are marked differently from the Play Visions (needs confirmation) and their numbering is consistent with Club Earth, they're likely Club Earth versions. Here a Siamese Cat marked China from Susanne's collection we listed on TAW as a Play Visions mini. |
| | | Bonnie
Country/State : UK Age : 19 Joined : 2020-10-14 Posts : 5584
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:16 pm | |
| Wonderful to see your cats and wonderful that we seem to have solved the mystery! This will really help with the CE section of TAW, with your fantastic photos of each one! I love how they all have breeds, and of course the little dog nibbles just show the wonderful history these cats have! And thank you so much for that photo Roger, I think we may have finally found the Domestic Dogs too! So exciting, I had never seen them before but they look wonderful! I wonder how rare they are- I really hope there are still some around! Are they the same as yours Jill? And I think I may have discovered the brand of my mystery Pomeranian, although I'm not sure- the photo's quite small but I think it looks quite similar to this one: If it is the same then that's very exciting- because at least it will help me with my search for this little beauty! I'm really looking forward to seeing your CE dogs, and thank you so much again to you and Roger for helping to solve this mystery! |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:44 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
Oh, that's what I like and let's start a cat party! Play Visions released two cat sets. The main bulk is this one but they are easily identified once they are marked with the PV logo, breed and number. Though, Play Visions also offered a set of mini cats as you can see on page below. At least, a few moulds seem to be the same as yours, can you confirm? Though, as far as we know, the Play visions minis are just marked China, no logo, number or breed, I guess. Whilst the bulk of 8 cats marked PV are exclusive to Play Visions, these minis are often available in multiple variations through many other brands. Thus, they do not use the logo of the brand. However, as they are marked differently from the Play Visions (needs confirmation) and their numbering is consistent with Club Earth, they're likely Club Earth versions.
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing that pamphlet, that's incredible!! It gives a home to the horses, cats, AND dogs! :) Those cat molds do indeed match all mine as well as the mysterious "CAI" cat. Though I still have questions about numbers, because as I'll show with the dogs, their numbers are complete chaos (and there clearly are not 23 cats - so why the 23?? A mystery). My horses from childhood match the colors of these, but the cats do not at all, which is interesting to me . . . I wonder how many variations are out there. The cats in this photo look to me like the dogs - not as well painted as some of the other Club Earth stuff? I wonder if they used these same molds for some other release also that got more attention to detail? Now I have a lot more cats to try to add to the collection! - Bonnie wrote:
And thank you so much for that photo Roger, I think we may have finally found the Domestic Dogs too! So exciting, I had never seen them before but they look wonderful! I wonder how rare they are- I really hope there are still some around! Are they the same as yours Jill?
They sure are! That pom is definitely part of the set. And Bonnie, if you're interested, you can search for Small Plastic Dog Lot on ebay. Someone is selling the set I think. Same seller as I got mine from, I think maybe they have more than one available? It has lots of watchers, maybe you guys have already found it. (Can't share a link yet!) |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:16 pm | |
| You're welcome. i am sure we will work dogs and horses later. Better now to put the focus on these cats. The page I am providing is from a Play visions catalogue almost 10 years before the purchase of Club Earth. Play Visions sold their branded and better quality cat bulk so naturally those were of a cheaper quality. The fact those you show are better finished and use the same moulds but in different colors, also corroborates to the idea that these are not those sold by Play visions but by another brand, likely Club Earth. Before I get lost, I think I will list your pictures on TAW as Club Earth Cats To Go set, noting they need official confirmation and also as they are a set of 12 models. I am not 100% convinced about that #23 although I know the horses were sold in boxes of 12 and 24. I hope that if someone has more information, will share with us. About the link, put it between brackets, it may work. |
| | | widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-31 Posts : 45638
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:49 pm | |
| Nice catch _________________ www.spielzeugtiere.com STS members can merge Andreas |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:01 pm | |
| Thank you, Andreas :) - Roger wrote:
- You're welcome. i am sure we will work dogs and horses later. Better now to put the focus on these cats.
The page I am providing is from a Play visions catalogue almost 10 years before the purchase of Club Earth. Play Visions sold their branded and better quality cat bulk so naturally those were of a cheaper quality. The fact those you show are better finished and use the same moulds but in different colors, also corroborates to the idea that these are not those sold by Play visions but by another brand, likely Club Earth. Okay, that is really fascinating and also a little confusing, haha. I think I get it, and I think what I'm going to say I'm collecting is the molds like this - not necessarily a specific brand! Taking a closer look on a desktop instead of my phone, I see that the first greenish-colored domestic shorthair and the somali are both represented on this catalogue in that color, so they must be part of this Play Visions set, while the rest are probably from that possible Club Earth set you are talking about. - Quote :
- Before I get lost, I think I will list your pictures on TAW as Club Earth Cats To Go set, noting they need official confirmation and also as they are a set of 12 models. I am not 100% convinced about that #23 although I know the horses were sold in boxes of 12 and 24.
Neat! :) Oh, I didn't know the horses had sets of 24. I haven't seen a horse number beyond 12 yet. Interesting!! I wish I could see what the cat in the photo that's in the same Cai mold has for a number. - Quote :
- About the link, put it between brackets, it may work.
It's just my seven day new member restriction on sharing links! I'll be able to in a couple days! :) |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:02 pm | |
| Also just have to say, I love this cat! It's like the Abyssinian color on the Siamese. Very lovely! - Roger wrote:
Here a Siamese Cat marked China from Susanne's collection we listed on TAW as a Play Visions mini. |
| | | Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12022
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:26 pm | |
| Really nice kitties and it is always nice to sit in a history lesson that Roger is teaching. _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35786
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:48 pm | |
| I opened a page for your cats on TAW. You can see them in this link. It is a very good help that you compare them carefully with the catalogue pictures. My sight is not good to such small things. I will take a note about these two you can find in that page. These figures are designed and produced by a Chinese manufacturer, it is a kind of business they call ODM, I guess. The Chinese manufacturer owns the designs/moulds and these products are available to any toy brand that wants to use them in their range. Often, they are offered in different colors what expands a lot the number of options and it also allows that different brands offers a different assortment. We know Wing Mau is the Chinese company behind several products of Play Visions, Club Earth or Wild Republic but we only know because we could find the pictures of the sets in their webpage. If we find these are Play Visions instead of Club Earth or a mix of both, I can easily fix it at the Wiki. Hmmm, I think it won't be easy for Susanne to find this cat again but if I remember correctly, it is only marked China. I am editing this post because I've found another topic about the subject, here! |
| | | Bonnie
Country/State : UK Age : 19 Joined : 2020-10-14 Posts : 5584
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:23 pm | |
| - Jill wrote:
- Roger wrote:
Oh, that's what I like and let's start a cat party! Play Visions released two cat sets. The main bulk is this one but they are easily identified once they are marked with the PV logo, breed and number. Though, Play Visions also offered a set of mini cats as you can see on page below. At least, a few moulds seem to be the same as yours, can you confirm? Though, as far as we know, the Play visions minis are just marked China, no logo, number or breed, I guess. Whilst the bulk of 8 cats marked PV are exclusive to Play Visions, these minis are often available in multiple variations through many other brands. Thus, they do not use the logo of the brand. However, as they are marked differently from the Play Visions (needs confirmation) and their numbering is consistent with Club Earth, they're likely Club Earth versions.
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing that pamphlet, that's incredible!! It gives a home to the horses, cats, AND dogs! :) Those cat molds do indeed match all mine as well as the mysterious "CAI" cat. Though I still have questions about numbers, because as I'll show with the dogs, their numbers are complete chaos (and there clearly are not 23 cats - so why the 23?? A mystery).
My horses from childhood match the colors of these, but the cats do not at all, which is interesting to me . . . I wonder how many variations are out there. The cats in this photo look to me like the dogs - not as well painted as some of the other Club Earth stuff? I wonder if they used these same molds for some other release also that got more attention to detail?
Now I have a lot more cats to try to add to the collection!
- Bonnie wrote:
And thank you so much for that photo Roger, I think we may have finally found the Domestic Dogs too! So exciting, I had never seen them before but they look wonderful! I wonder how rare they are- I really hope there are still some around! Are they the same as yours Jill?
They sure are! That pom is definitely part of the set. And Bonnie, if you're interested, you can search for Small Plastic Dog Lot on ebay. Someone is selling the set I think. Same seller as I got mine from, I think maybe they have more than one available? It has lots of watchers, maybe you guys have already found it. (Can't share a link yet!) Thank you so much, you are amazing! That Pom is one of my favourite models of this breed, and only days after discovering it I now have the answer to its brand! And I managed to find the lot for sale, thank you so much! It's very tempting, especially seeing that little Pom there- it's amazing that you brought this whole topic up, otherwise I think this little dog would have remained a mystery forever otherwise! |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:53 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- I opened a page for your cats on TAW. You can see them in this link.
Hooray! Thank you, look how nice they look! :) (Don't forget number 4 Burmese!) - Quote :
- These figures are designed and produced by a Chinese manufacturer, it is a kind of business they call ODM, I guess. The Chinese manufacturer owns the designs/moulds and these products are available to any toy brand that wants to use them in their range. Often, they are offered in different colors what expands a lot the number of options and it also allows that different brands offers a different assortment. We know Wing Mau is the Chinese company behind several products of Play Visions, Club Earth or Wild Republic but we only know because we could find the pictures of the sets in their webpage.
Thank you so much for explaining! Such a wealth of knowledge here, I appreciate you sharing and educating. - Quote :
- I am editing this post because I've found another topic about the subject, here!
That's wonderful, that's so interesting! All my questions are being answered. :) And my list of cats to try to find grows ever longer!
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| | | Jill
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| | | | Taos
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| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:17 pm | |
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| | | Jill
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| | | | Bonnie
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| | | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:01 pm | |
| Honestly, my sight is not good enough to see what's inside that circle, I can see it is not a pegasus. Nevertheless, I see you are thinking correctly and it all makes sense. A cat #23 being part of a set of 24 Farm set. It is important also to consider the horse or a dog when listing these models, if they have numbers up to 12 it may generate some confusion. |
| | | WhiteLightning Wolf
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| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:06 am | |
| - Jill wrote:
- I had an idea about that gray "23 CAI" cat that someone else shared a photo with me. Is it possible it's the cat from this set, where there are 24 pieces (though only 20 shown), so it might have been number 23 in that set? It looks like it could be the same mold, just from behind if the photo is mirrored like the dogs. And perhaps it doesn't say CAI at all (a breed I can't find anything about). Maybe it says CAT, as in, perhaps the rest of them say HORSE or PIG, etc.? I have no idea if that's a possibility, but I have been scouting through eBay this evening and looking at these pictures very closely and wondered.
I can confirm the grey cat does indeed belong the farm animal set of 24. Along with the bulk set of dogs and cats I bought, I also got the farm bulk set along with them. _________________ - FALLON- |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:21 am | |
| - WhiteLightning Wolf wrote:
I can confirm the grey cat does indeed belong the farm animal set of 24. Along with the bulk set of dogs and cats I bought, I also got the farm bulk set along with them. Delighted to know that, thank you! |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:06 am | |
| I would like to add number 2 Rex to the list! This one looks to me like the one from the catalogue. I think he is the cat facing backward in the center of the picture. That's three from that set I have now - Domestic Shorthair, Rex, and Somali. (And he also matches one of the micro mini cats, .) |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sat May 01, 2021 2:50 am | |
| I added your Rex to the Club Earth set. Do you mean these three match the Play visions Mini Cats on catalogue? I am adding all of them as Club Earth until we find the real differences as it happened with the Horses to Go. |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sat May 01, 2021 5:10 am | |
| Thanks! Yes, the dark domestic shorthair, the yellow somali, and this rex are (as well as I can tell) from the Play Visions catalogue. All the others are from some other set. |
| | | Jill
Country/State : USA Age : 39 Joined : 2021-04-13 Posts : 2346
| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sat May 15, 2021 5:17 am | |
| Got a few more cats! These are so difficult to track down, harder than the horses (though not apparently quite as hard as the dogs). I've got two that I believe are new additions for my Play Visions Minis set. The problem with cats is that (unlike horses) they are not always extremely distinct in their colors and patterns, and so I start wondering if something is a different set or just a slightly different paint job. Anywhere, here they are! Another Burmese, #4. This one appears to be black instead of brown like the other, so I think he is a part of the Play Visions Mini set (while the other is part of a mystery set). And then Himalayan #11. This one is am pretty confident matches the Play Visions Mini set (despite the lighter color). I also got one that is in one of the molds (that I don't know the breed) and frustratingly looks very like the one in the catalogue image, but unfortunately just says China, so not part of either set! He'll still live on the shelf with them, though. :) |
| | | Roger Admin
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| Subject: Re: Club Earth? - Cats | Know anything about them? Sat May 15, 2021 6:37 am | |
| Before adding these and since you are checking them carefully. Do you think I should list #1, #2, #10 with this black #4 and #11 as Play Visions minis while the other marked with numbers as Club Earth To Go as long as the mistery is not solved? I was listing the numbered as Club Earth while those marked China as Play Visions but probably it makes more sense the other way round because those you call Play Visions match the catalogue and it is a Play Visions catalogue after all. |
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