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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:00 pm | |
| I have an idea for a new shelf/display I would like to make and I would like to add a small herd of wild horses to it. There are some horses from a movie I would like to try and replicate as best I can but there are SO many horses from different brands and I don't know horse breeds at all If anyone could help me possibly find similar horses to the following in the images I would really appreciate it! As an example, my friend repainted the Southlands Brumby stallion for me into a wild mustang stallion because I really loved the sculpt of this model. I know the horses are animated in a cartoonish style so it can be hard to replicate so this is kind of what I'm going for: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Most importantly, I would like to find a suitable model for this mare. According to my research she is a "sorrel tovero paint mare". I don't need to find a model with her correct coloration as she will most likely need to be repainted. I'm mostly looking for a horse with the closest sculpt to her. I'm also looking for a Schleich-sized horse not a Breyer one. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Then I would like some "filler" horses to be part of the wild herd. I would prefer ones that didn't have to be repainted or ones that are not expensive. They don't have to be too accurate, the ones in the movie are kind of bland anyways so I think there could be quite a few horses that could fit these moulds. Basically just some plain-colored "wild" horses and two little brown foals. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Thank you so much if you help! I'm kind of lost when it comes to horses _________________ Jolie
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:21 pm | |
| She is a Paint Horse but my suggestion goes to an Andalusian, standard version. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:35 pm | |
| Thank you Roger! I'll keep this model in mind! _________________ Jolie
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:20 pm | |
| - Joliezac wrote:
- Thank you Roger! I'll keep this model in mind!
You're welcome, I think the newer Andalusian mare also works. That horse with the long mane hanging to one side reminds me a CollectA figure, I guess but I can't remember. Let's wait for people more used with horse figures. The last one reminds me the "ugly" old CollectA Mustang but I can suggest better ones from non feral breeds. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12078
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:34 pm | |
| These are my "mustang" breed horses. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I think this palomino matches spirit's mom fairly well... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]If you are going to repaint anyway, I would say nearly any "light" breed of horse would do (not draft or ponies). Just stay away from refined characteristics like friesians (feathering/hair feet, curly manes etc.). If I were to make suggestions, I would start looking at Safari ltd. models or CollectA as the sculpts are well done. If you need comparison photos I have all 3 Southlands Brumbies and quite a few horses... not very many collectA though sadly. Just say the word! (From my collection topic the horses start here: https://sts-forum.forumieren.de/t23561p200-the-curious-compendium-new-breyer-display) _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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George
Country/State : England Age : 41 Joined : 2021-04-05 Posts : 1599
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:52 am | |
| I've just had a look through my mustang pages and unfortunately most of mine are completely the wrong scale and style to match with the Southlands figure, but the Safari Mustang Mare is good [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]As is the CollectA Mustang Mare [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Mustangs are quite varied in real life, so as Saarlooswolfhound says, you could get away with quite a wide range of models as long as they have the basics right - slim legs not chunky draft ones, no heavy feathering, a straight or convex profile rather than dished like an Arabian, no dressage or high-stepping gaited poses, and of course the mane and tail have to be loose and not show signs of human styling - no short straight edge on the mane, no choppy square end to the tail, no braids. |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:03 pm | |
| Thank you! These are some nice choices! I really like the CollectA mustang George! _________________ Jolie
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George
Country/State : England Age : 41 Joined : 2021-04-05 Posts : 1599
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:00 pm | |
| I forgot to say, there's a foal to match her, too, which would be good if you're compiling a little wild herd... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]They also make the same mare and foal moulds in grulla, a dark greyish colour, so you've got two choices. Also, I missed that you were after two matching brownish foals first time I saw your post, maybe these would work? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]They're sold as Thoroughbred foals, but would scale just fine with the mustang mare instead, and it's unusual for a brand to release a pair of foals at all cos they usually go with one matching baby per adult, so you'd struggle to find any other two which look so alike without actually being duplicates of the same mould. I think the idea was to give us a choice between a standing and a trotting pose, but I bought them both, as if the mum had twins - I named them 'One In A Million' and 'Million To One', as it's so rare for this to happen in real life |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:00 pm | |
| Oh thank you so much George! I really love those two little foals that go together, I thought they were the same model at first. They will be perfect thank you! _________________ Jolie
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:05 am | |
| I really thought you wanted something with a similar character and not exactly good representatives of the breeds or I would not suggest those. Undoubtfully George's suggestions are much more serious. |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:08 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- I really thought you wanted something with a similar character and not exactly good representatives of the breeds or I would not suggest those.
Undoubtfully George's suggestions are much more serious. I'm fine with either! I initially wanted some to look similar to the characters but since they are pretty bland I'm interested in other "wild" looking horses too. I looked into CollectA's horses and I prefer many of them over Schleich's so I think I may grab some of those _________________ Jolie
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:00 pm | |
| - Joliezac wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- I really thought you wanted something with a similar character and not exactly good representatives of the breeds or I would not suggest those.
Undoubtfully George's suggestions are much more serious. I'm fine with either! I initially wanted some to look similar to the characters but since they are pretty bland I'm interested in other "wild" looking horses too. I looked into CollectA's horses and I prefer many of them over Schleich's so I think I may grab some of those I was suggesting the exact oposite thing. The Schleich Andalusian, with its girly generous mane, cute face and even the same projected "chest" (how is it called the part between front legs and neck?) as the cartoon horse. After seeing George pictures I understand why your project was redesigned so quickly. That picture of the first foal is unbelievable, I could ask to many people and I am sure most would believe it is a real foal and it would never happen with the Schleich Andalusian or the old CollectA Mustang. Maybe just before getting those CollectA, you should consider their size. I suspect the Newer Mustang will dwarf your Southlands. The Brumby is 1/20 scale model while the CollectA must be close to 1:16. I have the Southlands but not the Mustang so I can't take a comparison picture for you. |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:13 pm | |
| Thank you Roger! The only horse I have from CollectA is the running Przewalski's horse so I didn't know they were bigger sizes then the Southlands. I'm pretty solid on getting the 2 little brown foals but I'm still looking around. I haven't decided anything for sure yet.. Finding a good mare is the most important for me so I want to find the best one _________________ Jolie
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George
Country/State : England Age : 41 Joined : 2021-04-05 Posts : 1599
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:28 pm | |
| Now I have the Southlands stallion too, I can only add my agreement to Roger's post. He's definitely a smaller scale than CollectA, and you'll have to be careful his herd don't make him look too tiny! I think you can still get away with it, as long as you go for models of smaller breeds - I just went and brought out all the 'smallish' CollectA mares from my shelf, and held them up against him. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The Konik, a breed which in real life is large pony rather than small horse, is as big as you'd be able to to go, as in, she is larger than him, but you could manage if you posed her behind him on your shelf display, and always use a bit of careful perspective when shooting them as a group. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The Camargue, similarly, is slightly bigger than he is, but if you just want them as a generic background group she isn't massively not-to-scale. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The British Spotted Pony is the right size, but you didn't want such a loud colour The one sold simply as Pinto Mare is too big, I thought she was worth a try but next to her he looks like an angry pony [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The Chincoteague pony is fine with him, maybe slightly larger but real mustangs do vary and you could get away with it, and her colour is good, too - she might even do for your main mare if you're not fussed about exact markings, as she's a chestnut pinto? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The Haflinger mare is the perfect size, and her colour is suitably plain to blend in as boring background horse The Dartmoor Hill Pony is far too small, and I think the Exmoor and Dartmoor stallions would be too though I didn't actually compare them as the herd wouldn't need extra stallions unless you want another rearing one for a challenger fight scene! Everything else is bigger to the point of obviously-too-big, sadly. If you want any comparison photos between the Southlands and these or any others, just let me know - I'm pretty sure I have at least one of every CollectA mould (except the 2022s which haven't reached the UK yet) |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:20 pm | |
| Strangely I don't have a single CollectA horse. I am so sorry, my picture may look ofending when compared with the perfect ones on this topic but that's what I can do Those are Schleich, the colors match reasonably the characters but an Icelandic horse and a Tennessee Walking horse are not defintely Mustangs. George, I would like a comparison between the Brumby and the CollectA Mustang if you don't mind. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:23 pm | |
| Thank you so much George these are really helpful! I do like that Chincoteague, and it doesn't matter if her paint is too off, I was planning on having my friend repaint the model anyways and add on the feather that the mare has.
Since I'd also like to add my largish bison herd to the display I think I'm going to actually "build" the display first then look to see how many extra herd members I can add without it being too crowded. I also was going to have spirit up on a hill overlooking the herd so size differences may not be too noticeable since he won't be standing next to them.
I'm using the Southland's mare that has been slightly repainted as Spirit's mom and I think the Chincoteague pony may be the mare Rain.
Would you mind taking a photo of the pony next to the Southlands stallion if you get the chance? I'd appreciate it a lot! _________________ Jolie
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:25 pm | |
| Oh thank you Roger! Don't worry about the photos they look fine! I can easily see sizes. I do like that smaller brown horse _________________ Jolie
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:49 pm | |
| - Joliezac wrote:
- Oh thank you Roger! Don't worry about the photos they look fine! I can easily see sizes. I do like that smaller brown horse
You're welcome. It is the 2003 Schleich Icelandic - maybe the first horse in my collection. Susanne made a few of us very happy with these Icelanders. |
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George
Country/State : England Age : 41 Joined : 2021-04-05 Posts : 1599
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:59 pm | |
| Two comparison pictures for you! - Roger wrote:
- George, I would like a comparison between the Brumby and the CollectA Mustang if you don't mind.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] - Joliezac wrote:
- Would you mind taking a photo of the pony next to the Southlands stallion if you get the chance? I'd appreciate it a lot!
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.](I couldn't find a big enough piece of plain paper which wasn't creased, so went for the totally crumpled on purpose look ) |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35848
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:07 pm | |
| Thanks George, the comparison with the Mustang is really demonstrative how CollectA horses are significantly larger than Southlands. Brumbies may be slightly smaller than the average Mustang but I'd say they range similar sizes. |
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Joliezac
Country/State : New Jersey, USA Age : 22 Joined : 2021-04-26 Posts : 2441
| Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with horse breeds/models? Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:15 pm | |
| Thank you so much George! I think the Chincoteague pony may be a winner! _________________ Jolie
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