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Funny that the seller's name is honestshop2012.

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THAT is utterly hilarious. I am sorry for anyone who may fall for it...

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rogerpgvg wrote:
Funny that the seller's name is honestshop2012.


Isn't it... "too good to be true?" Wink

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Okay, it's a book, but related to animals, a recent and fairly inexpensive paperback...
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HOLY COW KELLY.  pale

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Want an elephant and a book Laughing
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The elephant price is in a different currency. How much would it be in Euro or USD?

Ok, I checked it's Turkish Lira so the price would be about 15 euro. Which is just about double the regular price.

Funny about the paperback book, maybe it's just a mistake?
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The price of the book! pale
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$2480 Laughing HERE
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This topic helps me realize that I am not truly as crazy as I sometimes wonder I am... Laughing Rolling Eyes

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There are Diamonds, Sapphires and Rubies,
Emeralds, Amethysts and Okapies. Wink

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Kikimalou wrote:
$2480  Laughing  HERE
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I just LOVE this okapi!! I have these little flocks on my wishlist.
Maybe the seller is very optimistic Very Happy Wink

I read the item description, it's fascinating! I suppose the right collector will be pleased to see this, and the seller encourages best offers cheers

How wonderful to see the original packaging with it. I had no idea these little flocks came in small window boxes?!

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How wonderful to see the original packaging with it. I had no idea these little flocks came in small window boxes?!


In Germany, the Wagner animals were also offered in these adorable boxes: HERE

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Looks good as long as you don't see the price. The shop has a lot of these Wagner flocked animals, though none as expensive as this one.

How are these felt animals made? Is it possible to do it yourself?

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rogerpgvg wrote:
Looks good as long as you don't see the price. The shop has a lot of these Wagner flocked animals, though none as expensive as this one.

How are these felt animals made? Is it possible to do it yourself?

I received offers for nearly half price by the seller on their flocks Very Happy
I suppose the right collector just needs to come along to negotiate the happy medium.
There seems to be lots of them in America and Germany.

I think the body is formed first in the material it's made from - hollow plastic I think?
Then the flock seems to be magnetized/sprayed on in some way, so that the little fibers stand out like fur.
Then I think the coat is spay painted which gives them that lovely soft cloud-like appearance.

It's fascinating to imagine them being made!

These are different from most of the later 'modern' flocks, which just have a soft fuzzy coat on them.

I wonder what the material is, because if you are using a glue - which usually has a wetness about it - to attach the fiber flocking, then perhaps some of the flock strands become hard all over with the wet glue? Interesting.



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You can find very interesting information about the flocked animals by company Fritz Wagner
and its "Künstlerschutz animals on this dollhouse collector's homepage.

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Here is a summary of the text in English. My English isn't that good, so the AI helped me a lot.... study

In 1973, the production lineup of Fritz Wagner KG included approximately 200 animal models crafted by Animal Miniatures
and Artistic Workshops in Rödental-Coburg Germany. These were showcased at the 9th Salon Souvenir and Gift in Wiesbaden,
offering a comprehensive view of the collection to customers worldwide.

The animal models were sculpted by Fritz Wagner, an academic sculptor and the company's founder.
About 50 employees handcrafted zoo, forest, and domestic animals, along with exotics and dogs.
These animals ranged in size from three to 25 centimeters and were made from an unbreakable
hard-cast material coated with plastic. The painting was done by hand.

Since 1956, approximately 1,600 dozen animals were produced per week, as mentioned by the
Wechselberger couple, the company owners, in a conversation with the editorial team of DAS SPIELZEUG.
About 70 percent of the total production from Rödental was sold for export, particularly to the USA, Australia,
South Africa, and European Community countries.

Main buyers included national and wildlife parks, zoological gardens, souvenir shops, and toy stores.
At that time, there was a high demand for squirrel models in six different sizes, dogs and cats in baskets,
and the standard animal collection.

The sale of these animal models in the United States experienced a significant surge after
President Richard Nixon received a rare panda couple as a gift during his trip to China.


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arrow More interesting information about Fritz Wagner - Künstlerschutz animals and the label you can find here in English:
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Thanks Yvette, that's all very interesting. I wonder if these, due to the successful introduction in the US market had influenced in any way the Toy Concept series.

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hat's all very interesting. I wonder if these, due to the successful introduction in the US market
had influenced in any way the Toy Concept series
Roger, that's a really interesting question. If that were the case,
there would have to be similar figures from US companies. Here in Germany,
however, I don't know of any company that produced such Tuchstaubtiere either around 1970 or today.
On the other hand, there were already flocked animals around 1890, and these figures were very common at the time.
They can possibly be regarded as the forerunners of these Wagner figures.
Christoph has already presented some of these old and beautiful figures in the forum.

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Roger wrote:
hat's all very interesting. I wonder if these, due to the successful introduction in the US market
had influenced in any way the Toy Concept series
Roger, that's a really interesting question. If that were the case,
there would have to be similar figures from US companies. Here in Germany,
however, I don't know of any company that produced such Tuchstaubtiere either around 1970 or today.
On the other hand, there were already flocked animals around 1890, and these figures were very common at the time.
They can possibly be regarded as the forerunners of these Wagner figures.
Christoph has already presented some of these old and beautiful figures in the forum.

Are the more brands? I remember me that i have seen one flocked aniaml figure in a toyshop in Dresden.

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widukind wrote:
Are the more brands? I remember me that i have seen one flocked aniaml figure in a toyshop in Dresden.

Sounds interesting.

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75senta75 wrote:
tOn the other hand, there were already flocked animals around 1890, and these figures were very common at the time.
They can possibly be regarded as the forerunners of these Wagner figures.
Christoph has already presented some of these old and beautiful figures in the forum.

Yvette, you are speaking about the Erzgebirge with string tails ? None of them are flocked. scratch
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Kikimalou wrote:
Yvette, you are speaking about the Erzgebirge with string tails ? None of them are flocked.


Hm, no - not these abolut great figures. I remembered others and thought you had shown them in the past. They look similar, just very little flocked. scratch

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I haven't flocked animals, collectors need some limits, even crazy macaques Wink
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Kikimalou wrote:
I haven't flocked animals, collectors need some limits, even crazy macaques

I first associated these flocked animals with your figures.  But yes, I agree with you, same for me, that´s the reason why I sell some figures for moments.
By the way, I have one of these modern flocked animals in a box - Do you like it ? So I can more limited my collection and you got an flocked figure ?
 If I think about it carefully, I think - that was my intention... Wink  Wink

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I'm always pleased when Santa Yvette send me a gift of course Laughing and I understand some of us are in love with flocked Wagner critters but they are really out of my realm.
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