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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:23 pm | |
| Oh I missed your reply Christophe, thank you so much! _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:40 pm | |
| Nayab(?) Birds: I need help with proper species IDs on most, and the ones that are innacurately painted some suggestions on species to repaint them based on body features. I would really appreciate the help. Here we go! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]First row on top- Peacock Macaw- repaint suggestions? Spoonbill- TAW says Eurasian spoonbill? Pileated woodpecker Owl- horned or eagle owl? One is supposed to be eagle, and one great horned... Crowned pigeon Mallard- any other duck species suggestions to repaint to? Toucan- TAW suggests green billed toucan, going to need repainted obviously African finfoot- according to TAW Hummingbird- short beak, maybe a bumblebee? Ibis- american white? Vulture- california condor? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Next set- Budgie- any color suggestions? Other than blue or green Macaw-repaint to military macaw? Toucan-repaint suggestions? Rainbow bird... no idea honestly. Ibises- repaint suggestions? I was thinking glossy or black headed... Cockatoo- cockatiel maybe? Vulture...?- body says vulture to me but the beak is wrong. Owl- same as above, one is an eagle owl, other is a great horned supposedly Pelican- repaint suggestions? Lastly, the two parrots- repaint ideas? I was thinking maybe a ring-necked and an African gray? _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:56 pm | |
| Reptile set [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Monitor lizard? Species suggestion? Thorny/horned lizard- species suggestion? Sailfin lizard Frilled lizard Hellbender? Or Tiger salamander? At any rate its painted like a Painted Salamander... 3 horned chameleon Basilisk- species suggestion? Gecko- species? No idea about the black and yellow lizard Tuatara perhaps? With a repaint...? Next two I also have no idea.... _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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bmathison1972
Country/State : Salt Lake City, UT Age : 52 Joined : 2010-04-13 Posts : 6722
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:07 pm | |
| I am not going to overanalyze these, as I know some on this forum will... Since you are going to be painting them, it's easy to find something with a comparable morphology and paint accordingly.
I do want to point out one ID/correct; the thing you have as a sailfin lizard is a crested newt; this figure has come up in other K&M sets. |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:13 pm | |
| - bmathison1972 wrote:
- I am not going to overanalyze these, as I know some on this forum will... Since you are going to be painting them, it's easy to find something with a comparable morphology and paint accordingly.
I do want to point out one ID/correct; the thing you have as a sailfin lizard is a crested newt; this figure has come up in other K&M sets. As for the correction, thats even better than I thought! Thank you. I'm not really looking for exact subspecies etc. etc., just want to make sure I am correctly assessing the models as family groups so I can select a species that'll work for a repaint (especially since I am more educated on mammals rather than birds and reptiles) . I honestly think this brand makes generic models, I am just using the opportunity to increase species richness in my collection since they are decent models themselves and not high quality ones to "ruin" (depending on your opinions of customs)... Thanks again for your correction Blaine! I love my new newt. _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Duck-Anch-Amun
Country/State : Luxembourg Age : 35 Joined : 2010-12-29 Posts : 1080
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:24 pm | |
| The ones that are obvious, you have determined in my opinion correctly. As Blaine, I think you have there a crested newt :) I have the spoonbill as Roseate spoonbill, as it clearly has rose plumage. As your Peafowl is more green then the ones I´ve seen from this brand, I would suggest a Green Peafowl. The first toucan, I used as fiery-billed aracari but I think it could present a Tockus, too.
The Gecko seems to be a Tokay gecko. The last two could be monitors or varans?
The most have really odd colours, maybe knockoffs?
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45781
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:37 pm | |
| I think yellow brown lizard should be a gila monster, than a iguana, the red lizard ? and the last one should be a komodo dragon. |
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endogenylove
Country/State : United States Age : 25 Joined : 2020-04-20 Posts : 381
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:18 am | |
| The red lizard has the body shape of an iguana, a marine iguana perhaps? The last dark brown one I am fairly certain is a Uromastyx or similar. The Brown And yellow one stumps me. The monitor is intended to be a Komodo but might I suggest a Timor monitor for a repaint? _________________ Always looking for new species
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:58 am | |
| Thanks for your suggestions so far!
The red lizard has a very iguana-esque body but a very small head, and not blunted like a marine iguana... maybe some sort of spiny iguana (several different species), a Lua banded, or desert iguana is what I lean to mostly...
The last dark one I thought uromastyx also due to its small head, but the tail is wrong. Might be as close as we get though.
The yellow banded could be a gila monster with a little paint.
A Timor monitor would be beautiful, but that might be a complicated pattern to do on such a small figure...
Thank you all for your help so far! I think we have gotten some good prospects for these models. I really appreciate your thoughts! _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Pardofelis
Country/State : Spain Age : 40 Joined : 2019-01-12 Posts : 2144
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:32 am | |
| - Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
I have the spoonbill as Roseate spoonbill, as it clearly has rose plumage. As your Peafowl is more green then the ones I´ve seen from this brand, I would suggest a Green Peafowl.
But the spoonbill have a crest, a thing that roseate spoonbills don't have. Better use as a Eurasian spoonbill and repaint according to this species. The peafowl have a wrong crest shape for a Green peafowl and it's an Indian or Blue peafowl. The fact that they have colours more according to roseate spoonbill and green peafowl respectively (and even then very inaccurate) is totally irrelevant as almost all the figures (except the pileated woodpecker) are painted with fantasy colours absolutely different from the species they represent. Also, those called ibis can't be ibis because they have a straight bill. I would use first as a white stork and the others as some kind of stork or spoonbill (I can't see if the tip of bill is flattened or it's just an effect of the bill being soo thick at the tip in lateral view?) _________________ My collection:- (Details):
Homemade: 106 CollectA: 54 Colorata: 31 Safari LTD: 29 Schleich: 20 Papo: 16 Kaiyodo: 13 Mojo Fun: 8 Ikimon/Kitan Club: 6 Southland Replicas: 6 Bullyland: 4 PNSO: 3 CBIOV: 2 Eikoh: 2 Yujin: 2 Takara Tomy:1 Nayab: 1 Happy Kin: 1 Natural History: 1 Science & Nature: 1
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Duck-Anch-Amun
Country/State : Luxembourg Age : 35 Joined : 2010-12-29 Posts : 1080
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:43 am | |
| - Pardofelis wrote:
- Duck-Anch-Amun wrote:
I have the spoonbill as Roseate spoonbill, as it clearly has rose plumage. As your Peafowl is more green then the ones I´ve seen from this brand, I would suggest a Green Peafowl.
But the spoonbill have a crest, a thing that roseate spoonbills don't have. Better use as a Eurasian spoonbill and repaint according to this species. The peafowl have a wrong crest shape for a Green peafowl and it's an Indian or Blue peafowl.
The fact that they have colours more according to roseate spoonbill and green peafowl respectively (and even then very inaccurate) is totally irrelevant as almost all the figures (except the pileated woodpecker) are painted with fantasy colours absolutely different from the species they represent.
Also, those called ibis can't be ibis because they have a straight bill. I would use first as a white stork and the others as some kind of stork or spoonbill (I can't see if the tip of bill is flattened or it's just an effect of the bill being soo thick at the tip in lateral view?) Thank you for your suggestion So I might use my not existing paint abilities^^ Or just buy the Safari figure |
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Birdsage
Country/State : United States/Texas Age : 17 Joined : 2021-01-11 Posts : 908
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:28 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]First row on top- Inaccurate Indian Peafowl Scarlet Macaw Mix of Eurasian and juvenile Roseate Spoonbills Pileated Woodpecker Eurasian Scops Owl Crowned pigeon, wrong bill color Mallard hybrid Badly painted Toco Toucan White-breasted Waterhen Kingfisher, not any real species Egret sp. California Condor |
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Birdsage
Country/State : United States/Texas Age : 17 Joined : 2021-01-11 Posts : 908
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:39 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Next set- Budgie-Plum-headed Parakeet Macaw-Spix’s Macaw Toucan-Collared Aracari Rainbow bird-Western Tanager Ibises-Siberian Crane and Black-necked Crane Cockatoo-cockatiel Vulture...?-White-rumped Vulture Owl to Philippine Eagle-Owl Pelican to Spot-billed Pelican Lastly, the two parrots- repaint ideas? I was thinking maybe a ring-necked and an African gray?[/quote] |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:25 am | |
| Thanks for your thoughts everyone! _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Pardofelis
Country/State : Spain Age : 40 Joined : 2019-01-12 Posts : 2144
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:08 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]First row on top- Inaccurate Indian Peafowl Scarlet Macaw Mix of Eurasian and juvenile Roseate Spoonbills - just an Eurasian spoonbill for mePileated Woodpecker Eurasian Scops Owl Crowned pigeon, wrong bill color (every part of it have wrong color, not only the bill)Mallard hybridBadly painted Toco Toucan (every bird and reptile here is badly painted)White-breasted Waterhen - wild guess, but better than nothing. Did you tought in a badly done Egyptian vulture?Kingfisher, not any real species - yes I was about to suggest kingfisher instead hummingbird. Much betterEgret sp. - or given how big and thick is the bill maybe a bigger heron. Not an stork as I suggested early, because the neck is curved and stork don't do thatCalifornia Condor[/quote] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Next set- Budgie- Plum-headed Parakeet (for sure a budgie 100%)Macaw- Spix’s Macaw blue & yellow macaw as best match. It have clearly the face parches of an Ara sp. macaw Toucan- Collared Aracari bill proportions are more of a Ramphastos toucan. Too large bill for an aracariRainbow bird-Western Tanager - can be anything, from a goldfinch to a piculetIbises- Siberian Crane and Black-necked Crane - extremely large bills for cranes. I would use them as storks of spoonbills depending if the bill is or not flattened at the tipCockatoo -cockatiel - a too heavy crest and bill for a cockatiel, better a sulphur-crested cockatooVulture...?-White-rumped Vulture Owl to Philippine Eagle-Owl Pelican to Spot-billed Pelican Lastly, the two parrots- repaint ideas? I was thinking maybe a ring-necked and an African gray? _________________ My collection:- (Details):
Homemade: 106 CollectA: 54 Colorata: 31 Safari LTD: 29 Schleich: 20 Papo: 16 Kaiyodo: 13 Mojo Fun: 8 Ikimon/Kitan Club: 6 Southland Replicas: 6 Bullyland: 4 PNSO: 3 CBIOV: 2 Eikoh: 2 Yujin: 2 Takara Tomy:1 Nayab: 1 Happy Kin: 1 Natural History: 1 Science & Nature: 1
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:56 pm | |
| Not sure about these... all marked W. N. snake as pictured, rubbery material. Any ideas on species (they seem very generic to me) and what brand W. N. is? Never seen that one... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]_________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Pardofelis
Country/State : Spain Age : 40 Joined : 2019-01-12 Posts : 2144
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:41 am | |
| Yes they're pretty generic, but it would be not difficult to find colour-matching species that you could attribute to your figures if you want. For example for the two most left ones, black and green mambas, for the middle one black with white bands, California kingsnake, and for the red one with black likes, Thai bamboo ratsnake. _________________ My collection:- (Details):
Homemade: 106 CollectA: 54 Colorata: 31 Safari LTD: 29 Schleich: 20 Papo: 16 Kaiyodo: 13 Mojo Fun: 8 Ikimon/Kitan Club: 6 Southland Replicas: 6 Bullyland: 4 PNSO: 3 CBIOV: 2 Eikoh: 2 Yujin: 2 Takara Tomy:1 Nayab: 1 Happy Kin: 1 Natural History: 1 Science & Nature: 1
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35847
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:40 am | |
| I think that W.N: remains a mistery to all of us. It is not the first time figures marked W.N: are presented on forum. We even considered to open a page on TAW called W.N: until we find the meaning but we never did it. This is actually one of the markings we know for a longer time that we were never able of finding it out. We also took a long time to find that XX was Wing Mao or that TM was Toy Major and not Tom Major as we thought for a long time. I think we have to open either on forum or TAW a kind of guide for markings. |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:20 pm | |
| Thank you both for the info! Strange that its a longknown but such a mysterious company... _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Rakel
Country/State : Denmark Age : 33 Joined : 2015-07-15 Posts : 227
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:46 pm | |
| I am not nearly good enough in animal species to give any relevant guesses. But I could suggest colouration for budgies. My mom has had budgies and other excotic small birds. So we have had a poster with the different colour-variations. I can't find a picture right now, but I found a link to a poster just like the one we had. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I hope that can be helpful for you |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:01 pm | |
| Hey thank you! That'll be useful when I repaint it :) _________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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Saarlooswolfhound Moderator
Country/State : USA Age : 28 Joined : 2012-06-16 Posts : 12077
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:24 pm | |
| Found these two at thrift recently. Made of regular type plastic most figures are made of. Only marked with Italy as pictured. They almost seem to be part of a nativity set(?) But I only saw these two, no people or other animals. Brand? Breeds? I may want to repaint them but don't dare until I find more about them. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]This one I have had for a looooong time. One of the models I have my earliest toy figure memories from. No idea where I got it. Its about 3-4 inches long so maybe it came in a tube or polybag type product? I considered repainting it recently too but hesitate as I am really fond of it. It is stamped "A" and China. Any idea on brand or species? Any species repaint ideas if I decide to? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]_________________ -"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) -“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous |
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widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 45781
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:44 am | |
| The little whale i have too. But no idea. The Italian figures are very nice but never seen before. |
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Dutch Bear
Country/State : Netherlands Age : 49 Joined : 2014-02-22 Posts : 927
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:56 am | |
| A goat, a dog, and a porpoise Sounds like the beginning of dad joke. |
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Bonnie
Country/State : UK Age : 19 Joined : 2020-10-14 Posts : 5584
| Subject: Re: Coral species? 3/14/24 Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:39 am | |
| Some excellent models- I've never seen any of them before! That dog is wonderful, I love how the flowing fur has been sculpted and it has that lovely vintage look! It definitely doesn't obviously show a breed, but considering it is vintage and from Italy, it's probably based on a generic Italian farm/ sheepdog mix, back when they were more lithely built for working! When I thought of Italian sheepdogs I immediately thought of the Maremma- the modern show dogs are more stocky but I know that there are/ were more lightly built strains and it could almost be based on this dog. I found a few photos of slimmer Maremmas, maybe this dog was a Maremma crossed with some other Italian sheepdog: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]And then for the brand, I did a bit of research and I definitely think like you thought that they were from a nativity set! When I searched searched 'Italy plastic animals nativity' lots of models with this style came up, and lots of the images seem to be labelled Italy. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]As an example, here is a sheep which was sold on Ebay, definitely with the same style: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]None of them seem to have a specific brand, but they seem to have been fairly common/ popular! Although I'm sure they're difficult to find now, and they're so delicate and beautiful! But I hope some of this helps a bit! |
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